I always prefered wood bats when I played. I love the sound of a ball hit off a regular wood bat. The ping sound of metal just doesn't seem right in baseball.
It was an aluminum bat and there is absolutely no chance that he could have moved out of the way. That ball came back at him like a rocket.
Do you know anything about golf? Try hitting an old wooden driver than hit a new Big Bertha or something. BIG difference. It's the same in baseball comparing wood to the new alloy bats they have.
They would NEVER do that.
Wood bats would probably be much more profitable. Hell, when I was in Little League, I went through 3 wooden bats at $60 a pop in a single season. And this was at a time when most kids were using $80-120 aluminum bats that lasted for at least 2 years, not the $350 monsters you see them using now for four years.
They'd rather have only wooden bats, then aluminum bats with wooden bat properties.
daniel1113
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I'd like to see some hard evidence first. If it took 0.1 sec for a ball hit by an aluminum bat to make it to the mound, but 0.2 sec for a ball hit by a wooden bat, there's no way they guy would have survived anyway. Anyone have any real velocities for equivalent bats made out of wood and aluminum?
Generally speaking, a parent on a crusade to ban an item that injured/killed his/her son or daughter has nothing benefitial to offer to society, and any legislation or rules being offered should be carefully analyzed and scrutinized.
Generally speaking, a parent on a crusade to ban an item that injured/killed his/her son or daughter has nothing benefitial to offer to society, and any legislation or rules being offered should be carefully analyzed and scrutinized.
moshquerade
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nope dont play golf either
but i love that noise the club makes when some guys tee'ing off. its like thunder n lightning, the sound seems to lag behind the point when he strikes the ball, and too me that club meets ball noise is an example of raw power
It should simply be a matter of momentum and transfer of energy. Assuming all circumstances are equal (pitch speed, angle, placement on the bat) the aluminum bat will connect with the ball and send it off the bat with a higher velocity then a heavier wooden bat due to the difference in bat speeds. Althought its probably MUCH more complicated overall due to the types of alloys used in the bats, and the type of wood used in the bats. But I'm saying for the simplest general case.
How that translates into speed, I really don't want to figure out right now. Raynor and DrPizza are both awesome physics/math guys, they may be able to tell you.
Koing
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I see.
Do you think he would have possibly gotten out of the way if the bat was wooden?
At the end of the day he probably would have been hit either way woodenor aluminium right? All sports have risks and if you don't accept them that is crazy. You drive your car outside you could have some random guy come hit you.
If I die doing something I love then that is that. If you prevent everything that 'could' possibly be dangerous WHERE is the fun in life? Baseball probably has A LOT LESS deaths and serious injuries then other sports.
Koing
You have a 27 ounce crazy-alloy type baseball bat that you can whip around at 100mph.
You have a 34 ounce plain ol' wooden baseball bat that you can whip around at 87mph.
Using those bats, the alloy-based bat is going to send the ball of much faster than the plain ol' wooden baseball bat, ultimately resulting in a slower reaction time. What I'd like to know is if that difference is negligible.
Which all relates to how fast the ball is coming off the bat. I'd like to see a study done comparing simulated results of each type of bat and the damage it would do to a pitcher.
I'd say the damage it would do to an infielder wouldn't be valuable, because of the increase in length from the batter giving them a greater reaction time both ways. An infielder has much more time usually than what a pitcher would have to react (I know, I've taken a few shots off of my legs and arms as a HS pitcher).
I'm not some 'safety at all costs' advocate, this growing movement to make life 'safe' is idiotic. Lets face it, life has risks -- and it should.
When it comes to wooden bats versus aluminum, it really comes down to this. What's the benefit of using aluminum bats? (or rather, metal alloy bats, they are not made from aluminum anymore). The only benefit is $$ savings. It's simply cheaper because they last longer. What's the cost? The cost is the potential for more players getting hurt because the ball comes off the bat so much faster, and a distortion of the game because of the increased hitting ability aluminum bats provide to inferior hitters. Given that cost/benefit equation, I'd have to say, why not go back to wooden bats?
When it comes to wooden bats versus aluminum, it really comes down to this. What's the benefit of using aluminum bats? (or rather, metal alloy bats, they are not made from aluminum anymore). The only benefit is $$ savings. It's simply cheaper because they last longer. What's the cost? The cost is the potential for more players getting hurt because the ball comes off the bat so much faster, and a distortion of the game because of the increased hitting ability aluminum bats provide to inferior hitters. Given that cost/benefit equation, I'd have to say, why not go back to wooden bats?
The benefit is not simply saving money. Tell that to a HS or College kid that sees his homeruns, average, hits, and RBIs drop significantly after switching from a metal-alloy bat to a wooden bat, and doesn't get a scholarship or drafted.
Unless it is a nationwide ban, these kids will be hampered significantly if they were to compete against players using the metal-alloy bats.
moshquerade
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he didn't have a point except to be rude and obnoxious.
http://www.pwsdb.com/ALBB/LBB-Wood-Bats.php
this is why the parents of the deceased man have a point, and why aluminum bats especially at Legion Ball and younger levels have been under scrutiny for years.
so tell me again what daniel1113's "good point" is.
Actually, there are now composite resin/wood bats that are more durable than traditional wood bats. Also, the money savings from using a composite bat are debatable. Composite bats lose pop rather quickly. We shared bats on my baseball team, and using about 4 bats for the team, most of them had lost their pop half-way through the season. These are the $300-$400 bats, and we went through about 6 of them in a full season. That's about $2k in bats every year or 30+ wood composites at $60 a pop.
The bigger advantage is in the stats as BigJ said.
I don't doubt that the aluminum bats put a little more speed on the ball. I would like to see statistics though. I know of two people, one at my jr. high and one from another school, who were both killed by line drives of a wooden bat. One hit in the head and the other in the chest.
Originally posted by: Amused
It's fun to watch, isn't it?
Indeed. Although I will give you this - a wooden bat feels much nicer for "Impromptu Vehicle Detailing"
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