Little girl scared - Oldsmoboat's law does not apply

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: MotionMan
I see why people who do not have or like kids, or see kids as things that are meant to give adults entertainment, would like these videos.

However, I find them very sad since this is probably just a small glimpse into the hell that the kids life is living with those parents.

I understand that there are some kids who like (or love) being scared - these kids do not look like that type.

MotionMan

Just because your philosophy with raising children is one thing doesn't make your philosophy the correct one.

I for one firmly believe that when raising a daughter you should try to be tough at times so she doesn't grow up to be so emotionally brittle. Girls as a whole are pampered and nurtured entirely too much and the spoiled princess attitude is entirely too abundant these days. I can see it in girls my age and the spoiled pampered princess parenting style has only gotten more out of control.

I don't know if scaring her in this manner was a good thing, but arguments can be made for both sides. Kind of like when it comes to hitting your kids too, I'm sure your not the type that would - I personally think the whole world has gone PC crazy. And yet the same people who have pushed to make it wrong to hit your kids are the same people who are crying that violent videogames and guns are why our society is so violent. I think those people are retarded, Dillon Klebold's parents are a prime example. If that kids dad had pulled his belt just once, who knows what would have changed.

I assume you see the difference between hitting your kids when they are being bad (like my dad did with his belt) and scaring the crap out of a six year old girl who only wanted to play a new video game.

I can understand how people disagree on disciplining children, but scaring them like that is just using them as a means of adult entertainment.

And, no, I do not believe it makes them tougher or less likely to be a princess. I think all it does is give them nightmares and no one to turn to when they need someone to trust.

MotionMan

my nightmares came from the movies I either watched along with my parents or they simply let me watch at some point. Hmm... I seemed to have survived. And if a kid develops some psychosis-type disorder, I doubt it was from some instance in their childhood where they got scared by parents and were laughed at briefly. It would have already been in the plans scheming in the kid's body.

and how can you assume that these kids don't trust their parents? We see one instance of them getting scared by the parents, caught on video. It can be assumed that the parents love their kids to death and were merely having fun, or it can be assumed they are horrible, neglectful parents who tease and taunt their children on a daily basis. We have no proof of either scenario, aside from one video.

I trusted my parents dearly growing up, if they did something that I got scared from, I still trusted them. It takes FAR more than one instance to break the trust of a young child, because as was said in the movie Silent Hill - mother is god to a child. Same can generally be applied to both mother and father, and depending on the sex the child may gravitate towards one in particular when it comes to trust, also heavily dependent on the family situation at home. I am graced with parents that have been together 25 years and both first marriage. Family is a big thing to me, and I actually will use how I was raised as a role model, because both my sister and I turned out well, even with possibly typical troubled teenage years.
Never got a belt, but I should have. Firm hand was enough but I don't think it was enough of a deterrent. lol

Just saying, everyone has a different philosophy for raising children, and each different philosophy may still lead to healthy, respectful, and successful adults in time. Many different routes to the same goal. But I stand firm that a single instance of terror and fun at a child's expense is far from enough to break the trust bond, unless it was indeed not a single event and the parents have other flaws in their raising of children.

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[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: MotionMan
I see why people who do not have or like kids, or see kids as things that are meant to give adults entertainment, would like these videos.

However, I find them very sad since this is probably just a small glimpse into the hell that the kids life is living with those parents.

I understand that there are some kids who like (or love) being scared - these kids do not look like that type.

MotionMan

um.... there are members of my family who have done this type of thing too, and have done it to each others kids (well, not necessarily to the length in the 'the monsterrrr!' video (maybe once or twice, with laughing in between... and no kids here although that means nothing in the end in this case)... but they are all parents who love their children and don't emotionally torture them on a day to day basis. It's called having a little fun and interacting with your kids a little differently. Gives the kids a little fun even though they don't know it yet.

Hell, I was watching rated R slasher flicks and horror movies by time I turned 9 or 10... I'm neither traumatized nor an ax murderer. Although psychologists would love to delve into my mind, it's not due to anything I may have been exposed to during adolescence or my youngin' years.

So your mental make up just showed up automagically when you turned 18? I think not.

Hell, my aunt has a bribing photo of when they pulled down my swimmin shorts and snapped a photo of my bare ass. Was embarrassed as hell at the time (early teen years me thinks) but now I wouldn't care and would laugh it off.
I think in the end it just helps kids grow up in all honesty. Might make them start thinkin about how real (read: imagined) all the 'scary' things really are... if not now, maybe some time down the road, possibly earlier than they normally would have.

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Or it may make them think that something scary is lurking around every corner, even when they are with (or emanating from) the people they expect to protect them the most.

It makes for a pretty messed up childhood if you cannot trust your parents to not use you for their entertainment.

MotionMan

Which is why people believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and God.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Squisher
What the heck, if you scare them to death you can always make some more.

You've obviously never had children.

Get back to me when you actually have a clue.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
That's why I'm praying that little Y-guys can beat out my little X's

why? you can't handle a girl?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_9cJ45Nk94

LOLOLOL, i love how the kid goes 'whats wrong with you!?!?!?' at the end lolol!

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Xylitol
That's why I'm praying that little Y-guys can beat out my little X's

why? you can't handle a girl?

No - you can be harsher (as in play pranks on them) on guys than girls without as my criticism. Also, I'm a guy, so I can relate to them more.

 

[preslove]

For the OP's link, I think that as long as the girl gets reassured and comforted after the scare, I don't see the big deal.

Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
I, for one, find this one hilarious

This one, however, is very disturbing. That guy should never be allowed to be alone with a kid.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: MotionMan
I see why people who do not have or like kids, or see kids as things that are meant to give adults entertainment, would like these videos.

However, I find them very sad since this is probably just a small glimpse into the hell that the kids life is living with those parents.

I understand that there are some kids who like (or love) being scared - these kids do not look like that type.

MotionMan

Just because your philosophy with raising children is one thing doesn't make your philosophy the correct one.

I for one firmly believe that when raising a daughter you should try to be tough at times so she doesn't grow up to be so emotionally brittle. Girls as a whole are pampered and nurtured entirely too much and the spoiled princess attitude is entirely too abundant these days. I can see it in girls my age and the spoiled pampered princess parenting style has only gotten more out of control.

I don't know if scaring her in this manner was a good thing, but arguments can be made for both sides. Kind of like when it comes to hitting your kids too, I'm sure your not the type that would - I personally think the whole world has gone PC crazy. And yet the same people who have pushed to make it wrong to hit your kids are the same people who are crying that violent videogames and guns are why our society is so violent. I think those people are retarded, Dillon Klebold's parents are a prime example. If that kids dad had pulled his belt just once, who knows what would have changed.

I assume you see the difference between hitting your kids when they are being bad (like my dad did with his belt) and scaring the crap out of a six year old girl who only wanted to play a new video game.

I can understand how people disagree on disciplining children, but scaring them like that is just using them as a means of adult entertainment.

And, no, I do not believe it makes them tougher or less likely to be a princess. I think all it does is give them nightmares and no one to turn to when they need someone to trust.

MotionMan

my nightmares came from the movies I either watched along with my parents or they simply let me watch at some point. Hmm... I seemed to have survived. And if a kid develops some psychosis-type disorder, I doubt it was from some instance in their childhood where they got scared by parents and were laughed at briefly. It would have already been in the plans scheming in the kid's body.

I believe you are wrong and many things I read while getting my psychology degree dispute your assertion, but I will not bother to argue with you since you seem so set in your opinions.

and how can you assume that these kids don't trust their parents? We see one instance of them getting scared by the parents, caught on video. It can be assumed that the parents love their kids to death and were merely having fun, or it can be assumed they are horrible, neglectful parents who tease and taunt their children on a daily basis. We have no proof of either scenario, aside from one video.

The next week, the father, feeling bad about what he did, goes out and buys his little girl a real new computer game. He installs it and tells her, "Honey, I am sorry about last week. Here is a real new game for you." Do you honestly believe that she will jump right on the computer and dive right into the game? Or do you think the father is going to have to do a little convincing, even playing the game a little himself and swearing upa nd down taht it is not a trick, before she even will look at the screen?

THAT is a loss of trust. Can it be repaired? Probably. Will the betrayal be remembered? Consciously: maybe, Subconsciously: probably.

I trusted my parents dearly growing up, if they did something that I got scared from, I still trusted them.

What did they do to scare you?

It takes FAR more than one instance to break the trust of a young child

I disagree - see above.

because as was said in the movie Silent Hill - mother is god to a child. Same can generally be applied to both mother and father, and depending on the sex the child may gravitate towards one in particular when it comes to trust, also heavily dependent on the family situation at home. I am graced with parents that have been together 25 years and both first marriage. Family is a big thing to me, and I actually will use how I was raised as a role model, because both my sister and I turned out well, even with possibly typical troubled teenage years.
Never got a belt, but I should have. Firm hand was enough but I don't think it was enough of a deterrent. lol

Just saying, everyone has a different philosophy for raising children, and each different philosophy may still lead to healthy, respectful, and successful adults in time. Many different routes to the same goal. But I stand firm that a single instance of terror and fun at a child's expense is far from enough to break the trust bond, unless it was indeed not a single event and the parents have other flaws in their raising of children.

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A single instance of cruelty, fright or embarrassment can have a profound effect on a child's view of him/herself, his/her parents and on the world, especially when the child is so young.

BTW, I had similar experience as you, as described above, except my parents have been together for 49 years and I actually did get the belt.

MotionMan

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Squisher
What the heck, if you scare them to death you can always make some more.

You've obviously never had children.

Get back to me when you actually have a clue.

Your meter is broken.

 

[akshatp]

lol thats messed up

 

[ColdFusion718]

haha what the?

 

[0roo0roo]

not as bad as when kids show their parents 2 girls 1 cup

but well thats the way to do it.
you see kid? don't trust the internets..its full of pedos.