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Lite On SATA Blu Ray Drive $149 at Frys

um... just because bluray costs a lot now doesnt mean its worth it. two years from now we all will be buyin bluray burners for $50. the discs will probably be $1 a piece...
 
good price but you also limit yourself to one of the competing formats. I think I'll wait for the LG combo to drop to around 200 or 170...
 
Tempted to pull the trigger but I doubt my HTPC is up to spec. My 2ghz P4 runs MCE2005 just fine but I doubt it could handle decoding BluRay (it seems to lag just decoding the hi-def DIVX files) .. anybody know what the minimum spec for decoding BluRay is?

Also my HTPC is hooked up via a DVI to component adapter into a 51" CRT-based 1080i HDTV... I probably wouldn't even experience BluRay in all its glory, huh? Anyone out there with BluRay into a 1080i .... how does that look? (all the retail demos I've seen are into 1080p tvs)
-j
 
Originally posted by: zig3695
um... just because bluray costs a lot now doesnt mean its worth it. two years from now we all will be buyin bluray burners for $50. the discs will probably be $1 a piece...
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We will see.. CD (introduced in 1985) took almost 15 years for that (I remeber CD burner was still $ 200 back in 1999), DVD (introduced in 1993) took about 12 years for that (Again, I remember DVD burner was $ 300 back in 2003). It sure gets shorter, but I doubt that, 2 years from now, $ 700 burner will become $ 50. Maybe read-only player will be, burner will be more likely around $ 200 at the lowest, and the disc will be about $ 5 a piece. That's my guess, but again, we will see.
 
Originally posted by: satoshen
Tempted to pull the trigger but I doubt my HTPC is up to spec. My 2ghz P4 runs MCE2005 just fine but I doubt it could handle decoding BluRay (it seems to lag just decoding the hi-def DIVX files) .. anybody know what the minimum spec for decoding BluRay is?

Also my HTPC is hooked up via a DVI to component adapter into a 51" CRT-based 1080i HDTV... I probably wouldn't even experience BluRay in all its glory, huh? Anyone out there with BluRay into a 1080i .... how does that look? (all the retail demos I've seen are into 1080p tvs)
-j
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I can't believe people still believe there is some sort of magical HUGE difference between 1080i and 1080p.
 
Agreed, Shingletingle. It's amazing what the hype was convinced people to believe about HD.

Blu-Ray into a 480p ED television looks great. Into a 720p display, it is beautiful. And into a 1080i display, with a decent de-interlacer on either the Blu-Ray player or the display, it will be extremely close to 1080p. (I would say indistinguishable, but some 1080p owners would freak out. 😉)
 
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Agreed, Shingletingle. It's amazing what the hype was convinced people to believe about HD.

Blu-Ray into a 480p ED television looks great. Into a 720p display, it is beautiful. And into a 1080i display, with a decent de-interlacer on either the Blu-Ray player or the display, it will be extremely close to 1080p. (I would say indistinguishable, but some 1080p owners would freak out. 😉)
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I agree, but only if the TV is actually doing 1080i, which to my understanding no LCD can do. Unfortunately, a lot of LCD's say they accept 1080i and people think this means they are actually getting 1080i. I think these LCDs are actually deinterlacing and downconverting.

If I'm wrong pls correct me.

Also, regarding this deal, I agree it is hot because for people with modern PCs this is by far the cheapest way to get BR. Sitting at computer distance (< 3 feet) I can tell the difference between BR and DVD even on 20" screens.

And, of course the price will go down in the future, but given it's a good price in the current market it is still a deal for people who are looking right now.
 
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Agreed, Shingletingle. It's amazing what the hype was convinced people to believe about HD.

Blu-Ray into a 480p ED television looks great. Into a 720p display, it is beautiful. And into a 1080i display, with a decent de-interlacer on either the Blu-Ray player or the display, it will be extremely close to 1080p. (I would say indistinguishable, but some 1080p owners would freak out. 😉)
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Also, for movies, true 1080i is the same as 1080p for films that aren't done at 60fps (nearly all are at 24fps..) Home Theater Mag: 1080i == 1080p for movies

So, don't hold back, blu-ray movies will look -identical- if played on the same screen in 1080i as they would in 1080p, assuming the screen handles the 3:2 pulldown appropriately.

The problem is that, on average, 1080p screens are higher quality in other dimensions that 1080i screen so the above 'true' comparison is hard to make.
 
Originally posted by: zig3695
um... just because bluray costs a lot now doesnt mean its worth it. two years from now we all will be buyin bluray burners for $50. the discs will probably be $1 a piece...
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One thing everybody's missing in this simplified equation is...
IBM and Sony are both taking licensing fees - from the burner/readers and the consumables. :frown::frown::frown:
HD DVD was to be free from those fees. i.e.Cheaper 😀😀😀
 
Originally posted by: RideFree
IBM and Sony are both taking licensing fees - from the burner/readers and the consumables. :frown::frown::frown:
HD DVD was to be free from those fees. i.e.Cheaper 😀😀😀
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See, that's why Sony is paying hundreds of millions of dollars to bribe studios to switch to Blu-ray. They're willing to pay $500 million here, $120 million there because if they "win" the format war, then they can start raking in the fees and don't even have to do price wars.

BTW I didn't just pull those dollar amounts out of thin air. The Blu-ray side (as in Sony) paid Fox $120 million to keep them from switching to HD DVD, and paid Warner $500 million to stop being both and do Blu-ray exclusively. This happened just weeks ago.
 
STOP TURNING THREADS INTO THE FORMAT WAR!

We are about to get REALLY serious about this problem. There is a thread in audio/video forum if you want to debate Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.

 
Originally posted by: travisj
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel


Also, for movies, true 1080i is the same as 1080p for films that aren't done at 60fps (nearly all are at 24fps..) Home Theater Mag: 1080i == 1080p for movies

So, don't hold back, blu-ray movies will look -identical- if played on the same screen in 1080i as they would in 1080p, assuming the screen handles the 3:2 pulldown appropriately.

The problem is that, on average, 1080p screens are higher quality in other dimensions that 1080i screen so the above 'true' comparison is hard to make.
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There is no such thing as a 1080i screen. Screens are all progressive, which is good, because otherwise you would only see half the picture. Frames can be progressive or interlaced, but not screens.
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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: RideFree
IBM and Sony are both taking licensing fees - from the burner/readers and the consumables. :frown::frown::frown:
HD DVD was to be free from those fees. i.e.Cheaper 😀😀😀
Click to expand...

See, that's why Sony is paying hundreds of millions of dollars to bribe studios to switch to Blu-ray. They're willing to pay $500 million here, $120 million there because if they "win" the format war, then they can start raking in the fees and don't even have to do price wars.

BTW I didn't just pull those dollar amounts out of thin air. The Blu-ray side (as in Sony) paid Fox $120 million to keep them from switching to HD DVD, and paid Warner $500 million to stop being both and do Blu-ray exclusively. This happened just weeks ago.
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So someone investing in HDDVDplayers and DVDs is wasting there money? I have not jumped in to this BR/HD thing yet, I thought you needed a HD plasma or LCD to see great PQ, I have a 3 year old 50 inch rear projection that does HD1080i, is it woth investing in BR player like this one and connect to TV? I also have Samsung Syncmaster 215TW lcd for my PC?
 
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