listening to new BOSE $300 headphones.

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: stev0

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: hdeck
sennheiser is better

beyerdynamics>sennheiser

sony>sennheiser

w00t!

ety's > beyer's

sony>senn? wtf are you smoking. maybe those sony open air's (mdrvf1?) but lets get serious now, sony =

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: bR
Tell your friend to go buy this from Monster Cable and put in between the headphone and the source. They'll sound better because of the 24k contacts.

mmm... electrolisys.....

 

[LongCoolMother]

i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

BTW for the price of the R10 alone ($3,500) I would just purchase the Stax Omega II system, invest the rest into upgrading the source of my system and be much better off. If I wanted a super expensive exotic headphone I'd probably get the Audio Technica ATH-W2002 (or L3000) with the DHA 3000 headphone amp.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

ive heard the R10 several times, but thats not the reason why i say they are good. others have compared them, and i take their word for it. frankly, i didnt notice much of a difference in my memory if there has been a significant difference between the R10 and the HD600 at all.

im not a sony fan boy. some sennheiser fan boys decided it was fun to knock on sony just because i posted something that was *so* unbearably offensive to their beloved compnay.

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: Sifl

Originally posted by: hdeck
sennheiser is better

Anything > Bose, really.

Well, you were only overcharged about $299.01 for 'em. 😉

Ok, ok... If you're happy, screw the rest of us who are bashing Hose...errrr... bose. 😱

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

BTW for the price of the R10 alone ($3,500) I would just purchase the Stax Omega II system, invest the rest into upgrading the source of my system and be much better off. If I wanted a super expensive exotic headphone I'd probably get the Audio Technica ATH-W2002 (or L3000) with the DHA 3000 headphone amp.

this is if $$$ is an issue. if so, i cant see how anyone would drop 15 grand on the orpheus unless they are disgustingly rich. Ive read the SR007 will perform sonically as well as the orpheus. for what? a quarter the price? HA.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

You never specified transducer type, and you never mentioned Stax. And we all know that since YOU said Sony > Sennheiser, absolutely everyone agrees and you must be correct, even though many people prefer other brands over Sony.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

ive heard the R10 several times, but thats not the reason why i say they are good. others have compared them, and i take their word for it. frankly, i didnt notice much of a difference in my memory if there has been a significant difference between the R10 and the HD600 at all.

im not a sony fan boy. some sennheiser fan boys decided it was fun to knock on sony just because i posted something that was *so* unbearably offensive to their beloved compnay.

Like saying Sony > Sennheiser *ISN'T* flamebait?

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

BTW for the price of the R10 alone ($3,500) I would just purchase the Stax Omega II system, invest the rest into upgrading the source of my system and be much better off. If I wanted a super expensive exotic headphone I'd probably get the Audio Technica ATH-W2002 (or L3000) with the DHA 3000 headphone amp.

this is if $$$ is an issue. if so, i cant see how anyone would drop 15 grand on the orpheus unless they are disgustingly rich. Ive read the SR007 will perform sonically as well as the orpheus. for what? a quarter the price? HA.

You don't have to buy the Orpheus headphones and the amp together.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

You never specified transducer type, and you never mentioned Stax. And we all know that since YOU said Sony > Sennheiser, absolutely everyone agrees and you must be correct, even though many people prefer other brands over Sony.

okay, ill give in on that one. i didnt mention transducer type and i never mentioned stax either. and yes, there will obviously be variation in opinion as sound is subjective. the original post was not meant to be a cheap shot on sennheiser though. it was meant to be a blatant statement to the response of "sennheiser is better". no idea itd get under people's skin that easily.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

ive heard the R10 several times, but thats not the reason why i say they are good. others have compared them, and i take their word for it. frankly, i didnt notice much of a difference in my memory if there has been a significant difference between the R10 and the HD600 at all.

im not a sony fan boy. some sennheiser fan boys decided it was fun to knock on sony just because i posted something that was *so* unbearably offensive to their beloved compnay.

Like saying Sony > Sennheiser *ISN'T* flamebait?

you're right about that. but the same can be said for all everybody preaching sennheiser>*.

edit: BTW. what makes everyone hate sony so much anyway? yes, they make astronomically horrible MDR DJ headphones, but what company doesn't make a few crappy headphones? (yes, that includes senn, beyer, AKG). note the only sony headphones ive ever owned are MDR D66SLs, and no, i did not like them very much. no, i am not a sennheiser hater. i simply dont hold them in godly regard like it seems everyone does. i owned a pair of HD600s before switching to DT880s, and i did like them.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

You never specified transducer type, and you never mentioned Stax. And we all know that since YOU said Sony > Sennheiser, absolutely everyone agrees and you must be correct, even though many people prefer other brands over Sony.

okay, ill give in on that one. i didnt mention transducer type and i never mentioned stax either. and yes, there will obviously be variation in opinion as sound is subjective. the original post was not meant to be a cheap shot on sennheiser though. it was meant to be a blatant statement to the response of "sennheiser is better". no idea itd get under people's skin that easily.

hdeck was obviously trying to say that Sennheiser > Bose, not Sennheiser > *.

 

[Doggiedog]

Funny. I just finished ripping the Blose speakers out of my SUV and put in Infinitys. Soooooo much better.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

BTW for the price of the R10 alone ($3,500) I would just purchase the Stax Omega II system, invest the rest into upgrading the source of my system and be much better off. If I wanted a super expensive exotic headphone I'd probably get the Audio Technica ATH-W2002 (or L3000) with the DHA 3000 headphone amp.

this is if $$$ is an issue. if so, i cant see how anyone would drop 15 grand on the orpheus unless they are disgustingly rich. Ive read the SR007 will perform sonically as well as the orpheus. for what? a quarter the price? HA.

Have you done a side by side comparison of the R10 and the Sennheiser HD 650? Have you even heard the 650s? When you get to this level there is no better headphone. I will say that although the Sennheisers don't beat every single phone out there in the highs, mids, and lows, they are the most balanced phones I have ever heard. They do everything well.

I preferred the Sennheiser 580s + META (A $300 combo) over my Stax Classics II setup ($700+) for regular listening. Yes, the Stax rocked but I would pick the Sennheiser's over it because it is better for my music taste (the lack of tactile bass makes the Stax boring, but is miles ahead in pop/classical). My point is Grado, Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Sony, etc all have thier strengths and it is a very personal decision. Claiming one headphone brand is better than another is outrageous and silly.

 

[thomsbrain]

sennheiser > sony, at any given price range.

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

ive heard the R10 several times, but thats not the reason why i say they are good. others have compared them, and i take their word for it. frankly, i didnt notice much of a difference in my memory if there has been a significant difference between the R10 and the HD600 at all.

im not a sony fan boy. some sennheiser fan boys decided it was fun to knock on sony just because i posted something that was *so* unbearably offensive to their beloved compnay.

Like saying Sony > Sennheiser *ISN'T* flamebait?

The Sony V6's arent bad at all compared to my Sennhieser 280's. Yeah the 280s are better, but I use my V6's on the road and they get the job done well, especially with my iHP-120 🙂

 

[Corporate Thug]

how do u justify $300 for headphones?

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i was talking about conventional headphones. if you want to talk electrostatic, then go for it. Stax>sennheiser.

however, dynamic realm, you expect HD650 to stand up to r10? hahaha, give me a break. CD3k maybe, and only then, maybe. sony>sennheiser.

oh, and ety's? i am in no way offended by that statement, i own both ER4's and DT880s. they are both equally good in their areas.

So have you actually listened to the R10 or are you just a Sony fanboy?

BTW for the price of the R10 alone ($3,500) I would just purchase the Stax Omega II system, invest the rest into upgrading the source of my system and be much better off. If I wanted a super expensive exotic headphone I'd probably get the Audio Technica ATH-W2002 (or L3000) with the DHA 3000 headphone amp.

this is if $$$ is an issue. if so, i cant see how anyone would drop 15 grand on the orpheus unless they are disgustingly rich. Ive read the SR007 will perform sonically as well as the orpheus. for what? a quarter the price? HA.

Have you done a side by side comparison of the R10 and the Sennheiser HD 650? Have you even heard the 650s? When you get to this level there is no better headphone. I will say that although the Sennheisers don't beat every single phone out there in the highs, mids, and lows, they are the most balanced phones I have ever heard. They do everything well.

I preferred the Sennheiser 580s + META (A $300 combo) over my Stax Classics II setup ($700+) for regular listening. Yes, the Stax rocked but I would pick the Sennheiser's over it because it is better for my music taste (the lack of tactile bass makes the Stax boring, but is miles ahead in pop/classical). My point is Grado, Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Sony, etc all have thier strengths and it is a very personal decision. Claiming one headphone brand is better than another is outrageous and silly.

to your first question. no, i admit i have never done A/B with R10s and 650s (seeing as i apparently dont own either of them). ive heard both phones, the R10 several times, and the 650 semi-extensively. (i borrowed them from a friend). the 650s sounded quite similar to the HD600s+equinox i owned previously out of a corda HA-2. with the exception of more accurate lows and smoothed highs. the mids didnt seem so different. the soundstage were about the same as well, maybe smaller? so i cannot claim for myself that the HD650s are any worse than the R10s. However, reading the reviews of these headphones one HAS to assume this R10 is superior in near all aspects.

i agree with your second statement. in the sense that there is no way to call one headphone company better than another and even between headphones (unless it is koss/philips) depending on your taste. which is one of the reasons i decided to leave the HD600s. once again, my sony>senn statement was a joke (somewhat). i appologize if it offends anybody, even though i think its ridiculous if you are. the 600/580+Meta42 combination is a nice one. im currently running ER4s's from a pretty maxed meta42 when on the go.