Listen to 911 call - Man sees burlary and decides to shoot robbers with shotgun - everything on tape..

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Update: these guys were previously convicted illegal aliens. If they were deported like they should have been, they would be alive...


Hear it here: http://www.chron.com/disp/stor...ropolitan/5309288.html

Operator: "I've got officers coming out there. I don't want you to go outside that house and I don't want you to have that gun in your hand when those officers are poking around out there."

Caller: "I understand that, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir."

The 911 operator warned the man several times to stay in his home. The man took matters into his own hands and confronted the burglars, police said.

Caller: "Here it goes, buddy." (sound of shotgun pumping) "You hear the shotgun clicking and I'm going."

Operator: "Don't go outside." (sound of shotgun pumping)

The man became upset as he described seeing two men leaving his neighbor's home.

Caller: "They got a bag of something."

Operator: "Don't go outside the house."

Caller: "I'm doing it."

Operator: "Mr. (blank), do not go outside the house."

Caller: "I'm sorry. This ain't right, buddy."

Operator: You're going to get yourself shot if you go outside that house with the gun."

Caller: "You wanna make a bet? I'm going to kill them."

Moments later, in portion of the tape KPRC Local 2 chose not to release, a shotgun was heard firing at least twice.

Both suspects died at the scene. Their names have not been released.

Police found a pillowcase stuffed with hundreds of dollars.

In the aftermath, the 911 operator tried to get a handle on the situation.

Operator: "Put that gun down before you shoot an officer of mine. I've got several officers out there without uniforms on."

Caller: "I'm in the front yard right now."

Operator: "Put that gun down!"

 

[Yanagi]

We had a similiar situation in sweden a couple of months ago. But in that case it was not a robbery, it was 2 teenagers messing with the houseowner.. One of them died... Its sad that it has to be that way.

I sincerely hope the caller will be charged. He intended to kill them and no matter what they were not a direct threat to him at that moment. Sound like he jsut needed an excuse to play some doom IRL.

 

[OverVolt]

I don't know who would inject themselves into that situation.

The first thing on my mind would be "If I kill them I'm going to have to go to court."

That would pretty much keep me from poking a gun into any situation other than life or death.

 

[Chiller2]

I am all for self defense and the use of deadly force to do so BUT in this instance I think the man was in the wrong in what he did and even more stupid for making the comments he did before doing it. And what is worse it make all gun owners look like jerks.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Yeah, that wasn't self defense.

 

[Joemonkey]

assholes got what they deserved, but guy should still be charged with murder

 

[edro]

He murdered them.

I am all for gun owner rights and a right to protect yourself... but witnessing a theft does not give you the right to murder.

 

[KB]

Yeah he in big trouble. First he wasn't defending his house so no castle doctrine, if his state allows it. Second he went outside to confront the burglers, who were no danger to him and leaving the scene. He will probably get manslaughter.

 

[edro]

The article says that they have a right to defend their neighbor's property... but it has to be at night time. Weird.

 

[shiner]

Good for him.

Too bad we have become such a pussified society that defending your property or the property of someone else isn't an automatic thing.

Two dirtbags are off the street and won't be robbing anyone else.

Sadly he will probably do time over this.

What really needs to happen is someone give that man a god damned medal.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: edro
The article says that they have a right to defend their neighbor's property... but it has to be at night time. Weird.

Yeah, that is a weird law. The police wouldn't be allowed to use deadly force in this situation but it's alright for this man too?

He should be charged with murder but will likely get the sympathy of the jury.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Good for him.

Too bad we have become such a pussified society that defending your property or the property of someone else isn't an automatic thing.

Two dirtbags are off the street and won't be robbing anyone else.

Sadly he will probably do time over this.

What really needs to happen is someone give that man a god damned medal.

you must have missed the part where he WAS NOT defending his property.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Good for him.

Too bad we have become such a pussified society that defending your property or the property of someone else isn't an automatic thing.

Two dirtbags are off the street and won't be robbing anyone else.

Sadly he will probably do time over this.

What really needs to happen is someone give that man a god damned medal.

you must have missed the part where he WAS NOT defending his property.

You must have missed the part where they taught reading comprehension.

 

[se7en]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Good for him.

Too bad we have become such a pussified society that defending your property or the property of someone else isn't an automatic thing.

Two dirtbags are off the street and won't be robbing anyone else.

Sadly he will probably do time over this.

What really needs to happen is someone give that man a god damned medal.

I tend to agree however if he had a shotgun he could have just taken a knee off while not killing them. If you witness a burglary the first thought should NOT be "oh i better be a b!tch and not do anything because Ill have to go to court". He had the right intention but its hard to justify straight out gunning someone down.

But it doesn;t mention if the robbers had guns or did I miss it? They could have flashed a weapon which would change in my mind and allow him to lay some waste.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: edro
The article says that they have a right to defend their neighbor's property... but it has to be at night time. Weird.

Yeah, that is a weird law. The police wouldn't be allowed to use deadly force in this situation but it's alright for this man too?

He should be charged with murder but will likely get the sympathy of the jury.

yep, I never have understood that law, and I hope the legislature changes it next session, unfortunately, it takes a case like this to show it needs to be changed.

However, you never know, the grand jury may let it slide...

 

[FoBoT]

repost

 

[halik]

Ohh man, that's a tough one - i think the deciding factor will be whether the burglars were approaching him at that point. You're never justified shooting someone unless you're facing bodily danger, so hopefully he didn't shoot 'em in the back

 

[seemingly random]

I'm in the middle of a novel that takes place in New Orleans during and after Katrina. If it's even half accurate, the looting and home invasions and just plain destruction by humans was astonishing. I agree with those who have had enough and want to do something about it. Unfortunately, the caller said "I'm going to kill them." We don't know the history - he could have been at wits end with previous robberies - or he could have been crazed for other reasons. I don't thing burglars necessarily need to killed but they do need to be stopped.

I have a friend who used to carry some money for the walk to class just in case he was mugged - he'd heard that muggers get pissed if they can't find anything to take. This attitude is just so wrong.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Good for him.

Too bad we have become such a pussified society that defending your property or the property of someone else isn't an automatic thing.

Two dirtbags are off the street and won't be robbing anyone else.

Sadly he will probably do time over this.

What really needs to happen is someone give that man a god damned medal.

you must have missed the part where he WAS NOT defending his property.

You must have missed the part where they taught reading comprehension.

defending someone elses propery, you are a riot.
W, is that you?

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
I'm in the middle of a novel that takes place in New Orleans during and after Katrina. If it's even half accurate, the looting and home invasions and just plain destruction by humans was astonishing. I agree with those who have had enough and want to do something about it. Unfortunately, the caller said "I'm going to kill them." We don't know the history - he could have been at wits end with previous robberies - or he could have been crazed for other reasons. I don't thing burglars necessarily need to killed but they do need to be stopped.

I have a friend who used to carry some money for the walk to class just in case he was mugged - he'd heard that muggers get pissed if they can't find anything to take. This attitude is just so wrong.

Name of book you are reading about the Katrina aftermath?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Name of book you are reading about the Katrina aftermath?

"The Tin Roof Blowdown" James Lee Burke

It's not necessarily about Katrina - all of his novels take place in and around New Orleans.

 

[Insomniator]

Who knows what they could have taken and never been found. A non-fatal shot risks his own life if they try to fire back.

I'm not really understanding why there is all this sympathy for two robbers, what if they killed someone in the next house they went to?

 

[Slick5150]

Great, just what we need. More vigilante yahoos who think they're cops. He did the right thing by calling 911, but that was the end of his right moves. The 911 operator was exactly right that he was likely to wind up shooting an officer, or getting shot himself. Leave police work to the police.

 

[Nerva]

he said i am going to kill them. isnt that intent enough? but still, kudos to him for taking 2 more pos off the street.

 

[jjones]

Two dead burglars. I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for them. The only fault I see is that the guy who shot them called 911 and told of his intentions beforehand; he should have called after he shot them.