List of CES 2016 monitors

moonbogg

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Dell 30" 4K OLED 120hz for $5k. Sweet! Expensive, but come on. Are those specs for real?
 

ShintaiDK

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Rather disappointing list from a 4K perspective. The Dell is awesome, but not at 5K.

At least TN is a minority on the list.
 

JDG1980

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Hopefully in the next few years we'll see a 40" 4K OLED monitor at a reasonable price ($2000 or less). The Dell 30" OLED is a good start, but far too expensive. And the size is an issue for PC users. OSX can do DPI scaling very well, but Windows can't. Every time I've used scaling more than 125%, I get too many glitches and problems in various applications (and sometimes even in core Windows components). This is why I sold my P2715Q - I was running it at 200% scaling on Win7 and had far too much trouble. A 40" 4K monitor can run at 125% scaling and give a massive amount of screen real estate. I'll probably soon buy a Crossover 404K Final to hold me over until the OLED goodness is available.
 

ShintaiDK

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Next big Windows 10 update should fix the scaling. But that doesn't solve the issue now.
 

Gryz

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That Lenovo G-sync is interesting since it's VA
Agreed.
I wonder if it has ULMB as well. It seems to do 144Hz, so ULMB is certainly possible.

Too bad it won't be available until June 2016. I'm on the edge of buying an Acer Z35. But I'm not sure yet. This Lenovo monitor might be better for me ....
 

Pinecallado

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Hopefully in the next few years we'll see a 40" 4K OLED monitor at a reasonable price ($2000 or less). The Dell 30" OLED is a good start, but far too expensive. And the size is an issue for PC users. OSX can do DPI scaling very well, but Windows can't. Every time I've used scaling more than 125%, I get too many glitches and problems in various applications (and sometimes even in core Windows components). This is why I sold my P2715Q - I was running it at 200% scaling on Win7 and had far too much trouble. A 40" 4K monitor can run at 125% scaling and give a massive amount of screen real estate. I'll probably soon buy a Crossover 404K Final to hold me over until the OLED goodness is available.

You should of tried out a linux distro with Gnome, Unity, or Cinnamon as a desktop enviroment. I run Ubuntu most of the time because most programs (GTK and QT based) scale wonderfully with high resolution. They look just as good as OSX programs in hidpi mode.

Next big Windows 10 update should fix the scaling. But that doesn't solve the issue now.

I think windows scaling in fine. It's just that not enough developers are incorporating hidpi support in their windows programs.
 

boed

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I would gladly pay $5K for a 50" 21x9 OLED (as long as games played well on it). I couldn't imagine spending 5K on such a small screen.
 

postmortemIA

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I think windows scaling in fine. It's just that not enough developers are incorporating hidpi support in their windows programs.
It is not fine if every appplication developer has to compensate for this on the every application. It should have been done on the OS level.

Having to do this API in every application is PITA. If you don't do it, app made in 2016 with latest windows SDK will still be locked to 96dpi.
It also means everything older will not work.

And I don't see that virtual 1/2x resolution (like 900p on macbook pro) works as well as it does on OSX. This is what Microsoft should shoot for with 4K displays - internally draw stuff with full resolution, but enlarge everything physically like it is 1K resolution.