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Liquid Metal CPU Cooler

Originally posted by: 996GT2
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Anybody read this?
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quotting off this guy. I did some digging and he's correct:

someone... @ Jul 19th 2008 12:16AM
For the people who don't know, liquid metal is a special type of metal developed partially by NASA. People get confused by the name, but liquid metal isn't actually a liquid at all; its name is really referring to the process by which it was made. Basically here's how it goes.
When most metals cool, they form crystalline structures. Liquid metal is cooled in such a way that it doesn't form these crystalline structures, which makes it stronger than normal metals (a 1-inch bar of titanium holds, if my memory is right, about 175,000 pounds. A bar of liquid metal of the same size holds about 300,000 pounds), along with other useful properties, including the ability to return kinetic energy very efficiently, a property that is called a coefficient of restitution. I'd imagine that, since it is amorphous, and not crystalline, it would conduct heat more efficiently

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidmetal

i also thought it would like mercury or gallaium. But it seems like its a process.
 
Ive read similar articles and bumf in the past about Liquid Metal coolers but they all talked about the metal as being in a liquid form, not in the way described by the poster which aigomorla picked out.

I am not sure how this type of cooler will compare to the typical coolers and how well it will handle the hotter systems.

Any technology that brings me closer to silence is a technology I like!!
 
well the thing that worries me is they did say tensile strength would be greatly improved, however the metal now becomes shatterable?

So it loses its elastic properties.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
well the thing that worries me is they did say tensile strength would be greatly improved, however the metal now becomes shatterable?

So it loses its elastic properties.
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Makes sense if you think about something like glass that forms with a more liquid structure.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: 996GT2
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Anybody read this?
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quotting off this guy. I did some digging and he's correct:

someone... @ Jul 19th 2008 12:16AM
For the people who don't know, liquid metal is a special type of metal developed partially by NASA. People get confused by the name, but liquid metal isn't actually a liquid at all; its name is really referring to the process by which it was made. Basically here's how it goes.
When most metals cool, they form crystalline structures. Liquid metal is cooled in such a way that it doesn't form these crystalline structures, which makes it stronger than normal metals (a 1-inch bar of titanium holds, if my memory is right, about 175,000 pounds. A bar of liquid metal of the same size holds about 300,000 pounds), along with other useful properties, including the ability to return kinetic energy very efficiently, a property that is called a coefficient of restitution. I'd imagine that, since it is amorphous, and not crystalline, it would conduct heat more efficiently

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidmetal

i also thought it would like mercury or gallaium. But it seems like its a process.
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It is Gallium, or a Alloy of : http://scitoys.com/scitoys/sci...etal/liquid_metal.html


this is why it can be pumped easy, and uses low voltage. it is very aggressive, but certain materials are totally resistant.

 
this is why it can be pumped easy, and uses low voltage.
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So, let's see......at 30 or 40 dollars for the amount seen here and maybe 20 or 30 would be needed to fill the HS's cooling tubes, that's between 600 to 1200 dollars. :shocked:

Sounds a little pricey to me. I'm sure they wouldn't try to market any 600.00 HS, much less a 1200 one.

But it does look interesting!
 
Originally posted by: shabby
The ocz hydrojet has some competition...
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only if this project is pushed back and delayed almost infinitely.



Seriously, dont hold your breathe.

OCZ has great concepts, but there very bad at pushing them past concepts.

All i need to say, is look at the cryo-z :T



@Fox i highly doubt its filled with gallium. That would make it too expensive.

I think its the process in which the metal was made.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: shabby
The ocz hydrojet has some competition...
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only if this project is pushed back and delayed almost infinitely.



Seriously, dont hold your breathe.

OCZ has great concepts, but there very bad at pushing them past concepts.

All i need to say, is look at the cryo-z :T



@Fox i highly doubt its filled with gallium. That would make it too expensive.

I think its the process in which the metal was made.
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Until you know pricing it would be a Rectal Extraction......

I am familiar with both processes. the "Other" Liquid metal is aimed at higher tensile, and compressive strengths and never changes "Phase"

There are Bismuth alloys that would be possible also, but they are alloyed with lead.... Gallium is much safer.

Gallium is common as a thermal material in more advanced electronics in high heat, and humidity environments.

it is in the "Phase Change" that you get thermal conductivity, and it would obviously not go gaseous.
 
Until you know pricing it would be a Rectal Extraction......
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:laugh:


Gallium is common as a thermal material in more advanced electronics in high heat, and humidity environments.
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Interesting. So somebody is using this stuff in a cooling application already?

Gotta link for a read?
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
well the thing that worries me is they did say tensile strength would be greatly improved, however the metal now becomes shatterable?

So it loses its elastic properties.
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Yup.

'Liquidmetal' is something technically termed an amorphous metal, or a 'metallic glass'. Instead of having a crystal structure like normal metals, it's amorphous (like glass) - giving radically different properties.

It's commonly used due to its special magnetic properties - it's amazingly efficient for transformers and PSUs (but it's mucho $$$$) - so you're unlikely to find it in PC PSUs (although it is pretty much the perfect material for the transformers and inductors in a PSU), but virutally all new power grid transformers are made from it.

I've not heard anything about it's thermal properties - although I can't imagine it would improve them.

I think the 'liquid metal' cooler referred to here really does use a room temperature liquid alloy.
 
Yeah, no. Won't work well in this small of an implementation. It won't make it to market, sorry guys. Would cost 2.5-3x as much as a black TRUE and in this small of a set-up might not cool any better.
 
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Yeah, no. Won't work well in this small of an implementation. It won't make it to market, sorry guys. Would cost 2.5-3x as much as a black TRUE and in this small of a set-up might not cool any better.
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Wrong on one count, not far off on another 😉

I don't know exactly how much that is in dollars, but the "costs almost as much as a Core i7 CPU" would lead me to assume it's probably several hundred dollars.
 
Originally posted by: shabby
The ocz hydrojet has some competition...
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The OCZ Hydrojet has no competition.....the OCZ Hydrojet is NOT even in the running...
Mainly because it is NOt even in production yet...lol
 
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