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<< To replicate, the virus requires users to run an infected program from an account with "root" permissions. >>



Some BSDs use ELF binaries so it could probalby infect them, not sure if the packet sniffing payload would work because I don't know how complete the Linux compatibility is.
 
Another Linux Virus.... when will you guys learn and just /fdisk that weak OS?
😉

(Typical Nix user response to "another Windows Virus" thread)
 
I saw something about it a couple days ago, but I never actually checked it out. I guess Ill have to reoad the link later. Maybe then Ill be able to answer the BSD question 😛
 
Another Linux Virus.... when will you guys learn and just /fdisk that weak OS?

I'd give ya that but this "virus" requires you run it with root priviledges. It's not like they can just include it in a html email with a f'd up mime header and have it autorun =)
 


<< Another Linux Virus.... when will you guys learn and just /fdisk that weak OS?

I'd give ya that but this "virus" requires you run it with root priviledges. It's not like they can just include it in a html email with a f'd up mime header and have it autorun =) >>



Mutt, pine, and other various email clients dont autorun viruses for me 😀
 
Im sure that all those "various other" email clients have lots of exploits too. It's just that the user base is much smaller for them, and therefore not worthy of coding a virus for.

I knew I'd hear from you two sooner or later, lol.
 


<< Im sure that all those "various other" email clients have lots of exploits too. It's just that the user base is much smaller for them, and therefore not worthy of coding a virus for.

I knew I'd hear from you two sooner or later, lol. >>



I ignored the troll initially, just wantd to point out that good email clients dont autorun things for you. They have their problems, but they have not caused my systems to be infected.


As far as this working on the BSDs, it may work (since the major BSDs use ELF binaries like most OSes Ive used), but the packet sniffing (from what I read) binds to eth0 specifically, and the BSDs have a better way to name network interfaces (in my opinion 😉).
 


<< Im sure that all those "various other" email clients have lots of exploits too. It's just that the user base is much smaller for them, and therefore not worthy of coding a virus for. >>



*shrug*
Whether it's through superior design & development practices, or lazy crackers ....either way, my box doesn't get viruses through e-mail.

Does it make you feel any better when you get bent over and screwed by the latest outlook virus to to say to yourself "I only got reamed cuz I use a popular mail client that crackers like to attack."?


 


<< Does it make you feel any better when you get bent over and screwed by the latest outlook virus to to say to yourself "I only got reamed cuz I use a popular mail client that crackers like to attack."? >>



Lol. I've never been "bent over" by a virus in my entire life. Who said I used Outlook or Outlook Xpress?
 
... and the BSDs have a better way to name network interfaces...

Better in a "what the hell does this driver call my NIC again!?" kinda way =)

It wouldn't be so bad if the name's made more sense. Like why is a 3c905 called 'xl' and a DE500 called 'dc'?
 


<< ... and the BSDs have a better way to name network interfaces...

Better in a "what the hell does this driver call my NIC again!?" kinda way =)

It wouldn't be so bad if the name's made more sense. Like why is a 3c905 called 'xl' and a DE500 called 'dc'? >>



Notice I actually said in my opinion on that one. A simple dmesg will tell you what the driver is called if you dont know. And I dont know exactly how they got the naming convention, but they probably have a reason for like 20 years ago or something 😉
 
Notice I actually said in my opinion on that one

I noticed, I still wanted to comment though =)

A simple dmesg will tell you what the driver is called if you dont know

I realize that, the thing I like about Linux using names like eth0 is that it's more 'standard', no matter what box I look at as long as it's using ethernet it's devices will be ethX, if it's token-ring it's trX, etc. Guess MHO is just strange =)
 


<< Notice I actually said in my opinion on that one

I noticed, I still wanted to comment though =) >>



I figured, but you have complained about me not saying things are my opinion 😉



<< A simple dmesg will tell you what the driver is called if you dont know

I realize that, the thing I like about Linux using names like eth0 is that it's more 'standard', no matter what box I look at as long as it's using ethernet it's devices will be ethX, if it's token-ring it's trX, etc. Guess MHO is just strange =) >>



And I dont like the eth0 thing. I like being able to figure out what network card it is by the ifconfig. But Im wierd. 🙂
 
And I dont like the eth0 thing. I like being able to figure out what network card it is by the ifconfig

The only time I had a "which is which" problem is when they were the same card, didn't know which one was being picked first.
 


<< Im sure that all those "various other" email clients have lots of exploits too. It's just that the user base is much smaller for them, and therefore not worthy of coding a virus for.

I knew I'd hear from you two sooner or later, lol. >>



A virus wouldn't get far if it doesn't have access to your root account. Even if they did find a expliot to a mail client it would only effect those who run as root all the time. Unless you're stupid or just plain hard headed there really is nothing a virus written for Linux could do to trash you're system if you are running as a user. Basic common sense and the fact that you must give execute permissions to the things you download inorder to run them generally helps protect most Linux users from the type of virii's you see on MS platforms.

 


<< A virus wouldn't get far if it doesn't have access to your root account. Even if they did find a expliot to a mail client it would only effect those who run as root all the time. Unless you're stupid or just plain hard headed there really is nothing a virus written for Linux could do to trash you're system if you are running as a user. Basic common sense and the fact that you must give execute permissions to the things you download inorder to run them generally helps protect most Linux users from the type of virii's you see on MS platforms. >>

Of course you're forgetting that most people will go out of their way to do dumb and/or moronic things.
 


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<< A virus wouldn't get far if it doesn't have access to your root account. Even if they did find a expliot to a mail client it would only effect those who run as root all the time. Unless you're stupid or just plain hard headed there really is nothing a virus written for Linux could do to trash you're system if you are running as a user. Basic common sense and the fact that you must give execute permissions to the things you download inorder to run them generally helps protect most Linux users from the type of virii's you see on MS platforms. >>

Of course you're forgetting that most people will go out of their way to do dumb and/or moronic things. >>



Which is when the good old saying of "A computer is only as smart and prodcutive as the person behind the the keyboard" is put to good use in that case.

 


<< Does it make you feel any better when you get bent over and screwed by the latest outlook virus to to say to yourself "I only got reamed cuz I use a popular mail client that crackers like to attack."? >>


Hmmm..., I've been using Outlook for years and have yet to get "screwed" by a virus whether it's Outlook related or not.



<< Which is when the good old saying of "A computer is only as smart and prodcutive as the person behind the the keyboard" is put to good use in that case. >>


I like to think that's the case, but I know someone here will consider my run "dumb luck".

Believe what you will, but common sense is the first step to remaining virus free. I've been running Outlook as my mail client for around 6-7 years now, and company wide for close to the same amount of time. I'll let everyone know when any machine here gets hit for the first time. 😉
 


<< YAWN....

Yet another "alleged" linux virus which has never actually been seen in the wild.. >>



I thought the article and its links had information about this one or its previous versions being found in the wild. RST or whatever the first one was called was released into the wild "accidentally" according to the supposed author.
 
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