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Linux support: The single most frustrating thing in all of computing

EyeMWing

Banned
Run into a problem while using a Linux system? You'd better have nothing better to do with yourself, because you're going to be spending an out-of-this-world amount of time figuring out why. Why is this? Because NOBODY seems to be able to support anything, under any circumstances (unless you went and paid for RedHat or whatever the hell they call it now).

Furthermore, Linux devs are infalliable creatures. They do not make mistakes. They do not forget to upload source files. When 'emerge system' on your Gentoo box fails because it couldn't fetch all the source, the fact that the requisite files just plain do not exist on the server is your fault. Why are you building bzip2 anyway? (uh, because this is a brand new stage1 installation?)

And then when someone FINALLY decides to try to figure out what in the name of satan is going on, they go silent after you give them some basic information which you'd already volunteered 15,000 times - and then start helping someone who fscked up and deleted xorg.conf

"Have you searched for a previously reported bug?" is the standard. "Yes, and there's nothing relevant" is the appropriate reply. But, "Then submit one" is the cry. Of course, nevermind the technical impossibilities of submitting a useful bug report without having an SSH window to copy/paste from (because you can't build the damn sshd, because, for some ungodly reason, it's dependent on bzip2)

So - with this, I scrap 12 hours of work and arguing with kiddies on IRC and move to yet another pansyass half-OS - because there is yet to be a non-brokeassed routing solution for Windows.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

🙁
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

Uh, linux was built for the community by the community. They want to know why all these "fing n00bzoxors want to use M$ winBLOWS" well. Its because when you go to ask for help on a windows based forum, you dont get called names for not reading all 23435 pages of every man page ever written.

Granted there are the few fing retards that will give you flak but for the most part people are willing to help each other out with an OS that MS sells and thus should support.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

Most can. If you can't stick to Tiger or Windows.

 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

i'll take Linux support over Windows support. if you want good support buy a Mac.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

i'll take Linux support over Windows support. if you want good support buy a Mac.

huh?
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

i'll take Linux support over Windows support. if you want good support buy a Mac.

huh?

when have you really gotten a good answer from microsoft or a vendor that you haven't been able to figure out yourself? If you buy a linux distro like Linspire and pay them their fee, you get support as good as what you get from Microsoft (of course you have to pay microsoft per incident).
 
I guess that's the kind of thing I expect in a build-from-source distro like gentoo - bleeding edge, lots of mucking about to make it work.
What's the purpose of doing gentoo vs. a "normal" distro where somebody else has already done the legwork to get at least the basics working?
 
Stage 3 dude... if you REALLY want to compile everything yourself, do stage3, then re-emerge gcc, glibc, and then re-emerge the entire system. While you're waiting for that to happen, you can surf or whatever.
 
Try Ubuntu or some other distribution of linux that doesn't require you to compile everything. I know that the Ubuntu community is very helpful when problems crop up...
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

when have you really gotten a good answer from microsoft or a vendor that you haven't been able to figure out yourself? If you buy a linux distro like Linspire and pay them their fee, you get support as good as what you get from Microsoft (of course you have to pay microsoft per incident).

Quite a bit, but I don't use it for desktop support. Try key issues with an Enterprise installation of 1000 or so servers across the US.

Also WE don't pay per incident, we have 24/7 support with HP, CA, Dell, Microsoft, Business Solutions, etc just in case we need it. Any this is never for a simple desktop issue unless it's going to be an RMA.
 
Google will help you find answers quickier then asking for help on mailing list.

I only go ask for human help if google fails me.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Rogue
Wrong forum. Go to the OS forum. Thank you. 😀

I'm ranting, not asking for help.

just go away then. You expecting free support for a free OS?

YES! There's no point in releasing something for public consumption if there isn't even a token effort to make sure people can use it.

You clearly don't understand the purpose of open source. Go Away
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

when have you really gotten a good answer from microsoft or a vendor that you haven't been able to figure out yourself? If you buy a linux distro like Linspire and pay them their fee, you get support as good as what you get from Microsoft (of course you have to pay microsoft per incident).

Quite a bit, but I don't use it for desktop support. Try key issues with an Enterprise installation of 1000 or so servers across the US.

Also WE don't pay per incident, we have 24/7 support with HP, CA, Dell, Microsoft, Business Solutions, etc just in case we need it. Any this is never for a simple desktop issue unless it's going to be an RMA.

If you put those kind of resources against it, I'm sure you can get quite good support for Linux as well. I was impressed witht the level of supprt we got for a single RedHat Enterprise Edition license on an install issue.
 
Originally posted by: sleuth bandit
You clearly don't understand the purpose of open source. Go Away
Clearly you don't understand the purpose either.

ps. linux is crap. use bsd.
BSD is crap, it isn't built up well enough. Use Tiger.😛
 
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