Question Linux on a USB or VM?

[igor_kavinski]

Well after being called "stupid", I downloaded Nobara KDE on VM with a 150GB space and tried to setup the stuff that matters to me, Steam/ Epic/ Proton/ VLC/ and a exfat partition. With steam I first installed Morrowind to go slow, then Skyrim, then Elder Scrolls Online.

Which virtualization software are you using? Pretty crazy if those games are running inside a VM.

 

[biostud]

I took a while to parse that sentence, and I think you mean that when something is broken in a live environment then you're more motivated to fix it?

Exactly

 

[Indus]

Which virtualization software are you using? Pretty crazy if those games are running inside a VM.

I haven't quite gotten ESO to work yet as I ran out of space. But Oracle VM.

Morrowind launched (but in a non wide screen) - haven't found a fix yet.. but it launched. In windows I'd go into reg edit and fix that but I don't know how to do that in Nobara yet.

Skyrim launched just fine.

ESO - I have myself to blame.. only went with a 150GB VM.. shoulda done 250.. the game is like 100 GB by itself.

 

[mikeymikec]

I'm actually having the same problem and it's my only gripe with LM. I posted about it on their suggestion forums and they called me "stupid" as Linux Mint's "pure purpose is stability and being slow to update - i.e. keep things same forever whenever possible, and if I want a game distro, I should go with Arch/ Fedora".

I'm confused. A launcher stopped working, you made a suggestion about updates for some reason and they called you stupid? What does a non-functional launcher have to do with updates?

Side note - I wish I had kept notes on what I found to be broken in each distro I tried before settling on LM; I think if it failed on stuff like simple-scan not working as it should (weird issues like having to wait ~45 seconds between scanning one page of a doc and the next), it went in the figurative bin and I moved on to the next one. I think I went from Lubuntu 18.04 (satisfactory), to Lubuntu 20.04, onto Kubuntu 20.04, onto Debian (presumably 11) in quick succession. Other stuff like a note in my linux journal about uninstalling libreoffice-qt5 so printing worked properly, or a super-annoying bug in LO Calc whereby the column sort UI (Data > Sort...) would take yonks to open or apply a change, I can't remember which. I should have taken more notes because I would have to be pretty optimistic that I'm going to be Linux Mint for life!

 

[Zepp]

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I'm quite impressed as Nobara just works!

Glad you like it.
I'm a real fedora-base convert. I now recommend Ultramarine to anyone wanting to try linux over mint/buntus. It's tweaked Fedora like Nobara is but setup for general desktop use. They also have an image designed for surface tablets.

There is also the Universal Blue distros which include Bazzite, the immutable gaming focused distro that's often recommended as the closest to SteamOS on PC.

I've not yet tried an immutable distro but I like the idea.

 

[igor_kavinski]

But Oracle VM.

Damn that's impressive!

Guess either VBox received a major 3D update or maybe their Virtual 3D graphics adapter is just more advanced under Linux.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I've not yet tried an immutable distro but I like the idea.

The problem would be that it would grow in size with time because it's not allowed to add/overwrite stuff where it needs to so just keeps expanding?

 

[mikeymikec]

If anyone's got tips / a guide to getting say Virtualbox to reliably do gaming, I'm all ears. I've flirted with the occasional community Linux port and with wine. I'm wondering whether I should keep gaming and Linux separate for the sake of my own productivity though...

 

[Indus]

I'm confused. A launcher stopped working, you made a suggestion about updates for some reason and they called you stupid? What does a non-functional launcher have to do with updates?

Side note - I wish I had kept notes on what I found to be broken in each distro I tried before settling on LM; I think if it failed on stuff like simple-scan not working as it should (weird issues like having to wait ~45 seconds between scanning one page of a doc and the next), it went in the figurative bin and I moved on to the next one. I think I went from Lubuntu 18.04 (satisfactory), to Lubuntu 20.04, onto Kubuntu 20.04, onto Debian (presumably 11) in quick succession. Other stuff like a note in my linux journal about uninstalling libreoffice-qt5 so printing worked properly, or a super-annoying bug in LO Calc whereby the column sort UI (Data > Sort...) would take yonks to open or apply a change, I can't remember which. I should have taken more notes because I would have to be pretty optimistic that I'm going to be Linux Mint for life!

Yeah I don't even know how to explain that.

I've used LM 3 years now successfully for my wife's computer. Since she doesn't game.. she has successfully completed Mission: Ditch Windows. BTW she likes LMDE even more than LM since it doesn't bother her with tons of updates.

For me.. there were 2 hiccups.. Avery Label print software and games so I kept a secondary windows 10 partition.

Every now and then I would experiment that is linux ready for a full switch over, and Nobara seems like a huge leap forward even if it's not 100% yet.

I'm like biostud and zepp.. "I will figure it out somehow as I'm dedicated to ditching windows at the earliest possible".

Just looking for something that works.. was reading somewhere Slackware works good with Steam too!

 

[Indus]

The problem would be that it would grow in size with time because it's not allowed to add/overwrite stuff where it needs to so just keeps expanding?

I recently purchased a 2TB NVME.. still haven't gotten it as yet but I'll be installing Nobara on there.

At first I was thinking Bazzite but ran into same thought as you.. and Fedora loves updates.. I mean I've only messed around with it for a week now and everytime I log in.. there's an update.

BTW I'm so dedicated to MDW (Mission: Ditch Windows) I also bought a 12TB HDD and moved all my data on to EXFAT partitions.. so it'll be fully visible on Linux. Other than my windows boot drive, nothing else is NTFS anymore.

 

[Indus]

If anyone's got tips / a guide to getting say Virtualbox to reliably do gaming, I'm all ears. I've flirted with the occasional community Linux port and with wine. I'm wondering whether I should keep gaming and Linux separate for the sake of my own productivity though...

Hmm I think morrowind and skyrim only worked as they're very old games for me.

But here goes..

Open Oracle VM.
In settings:
Base Memory: 16384MB (1/2 of 32768)
Processors: 8
Execution Cap: 95%
Enable PAE/NX (checked YES)
Display: Video Memory: 128
Enable 3D Acceleration (checked YES)

That's my settings.. and I haven't gotten games to work before, but in this Nobara version I did get them to open. They're laggy though, but at least they launch and open.

I think best way would still be get a 2nd hard drive or make a partition where you have reliable space.

My video card is an ancient GTX 1080 but it seems to work fine for them..

 

[Zepp]

If anyone's got tips / a guide to getting say Virtualbox to reliably do gaming, I'm all ears. I've flirted with the occasional community Linux port and with wine. I'm wondering whether I should keep gaming and Linux separate for the sake of my own productivity though...

I was looking into this a while back and liked this channel's videos on it

BlandManStudios

We make creative stuff and talk about the technology behind it Linux is cool, VFIO is cool, blender is cool.

www.youtube.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

I also bought a 12TB HDD and moved all my data on to EXFAT partitions

Make sure to have a sane backup plan coz you know HDD...

 

[igor_kavinski]

I now recommend Ultramarine to anyone wanting to try linux over mint/buntus.

Ultramarine Linux

Ultramarine Linux is a Fedora-based Linux distribution designed to stay out of your way and be easy to use. All editions come with several tweaks preapplied to make initial setup and daily usage seamless.

ultramarine-linux.org

Looks great!

@biostud, get rid of whatever you got installed. I think this is the one you want

 

[biostud]

Ultramarine Linux

Ultramarine Linux is a Fedora-based Linux distribution designed to stay out of your way and be easy to use. All editions come with several tweaks preapplied to make initial setup and daily usage seamless.

ultramarine-linux.org

Looks great!

@biostud, get rid of whatever you got installed. I think this is the one you want

Well, that was the reason to split the new drive in two equal sized partions.

 

[biostud]

So the weird thing is, if I just try to start steam it's like the window starts to be made, but gets shutdown before it even show anything. If I just right click and start steam/store or steam/library it starts just fine.

I tried remove and purge and start all over, same thing. Well so far it will just be one of those things that needs to be fixed at some point as I do have a working steam, which just has a quirk to how it has to be started....

 

[Indus]

Btw @mikeymikec here is Crysis on VM.

I wouldn't call it gaming but it does load games and allow you to move around in a very laggy manner.. but hey at least you know it will work!

 

[Indus]

So the weird thing is, if I just try to start steam it's like the window starts to be made, but gets shutdown before it even show anything. If I just right click and start steam/store or steam/library it starts just fine.

I tried remove and purge and start all over, same thing. Well so far it will just be one of those things that needs to be fixed at some point as I do have a working steam, which just has a quirk to how it has to be started....

Yes I've noticed that too across 3 distros: Nobara, Fedora and Bazzite.

On Nobara it completely froze and didn't load so I tried Bazzite again in the VM.

 

[biostud]

Yes I've noticed that too across 3 distros: Nobara, Fedora and Bazzite.

On Nobara it completely froze and didn't load so I tried Bazzite again in the VM.

OK, then it sounds like a general bug. Maybe it is the "special offers" windows it can't create, which is circumvented by launching it the other ways.

 

[biostud]

I think I've found software for my photo work for Linux.

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Also I've decided to install my first AI model (Claude) as I think it really will help me understand Linux faster and getting things set up the way I would like.

(I have tried a couple of prompts in chatGPT, but until now I haven't had a reason to use one)