linux mandrake v10

[sonoma1993]

Im dual booting between windows xp-64 bit and mandrake v10 32 bit,. Now my problem is when i get to the logon screen in linux, and click on my name. it then asked me for my password and type it then then click logon, the stupid thing goes right by to asking me to pick a user. It'll keep doing this over and over? is there a way to fix this problem?.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Can you login to a virtual terminal?

 

[sonoma1993]

How do I login into a virtual terminal? Im not to experince with linux here.

 

[n0cmonkey]

ctrl alt Fx Where x stands for a number. F1 is probably just the easiest. It will bring you to a text login.

 

[sonoma1993]

id tried that, it comes upto the were it says login, i type my username in, then it says chris@localhost somethen like that.

 

[n0cmonkey]

So the login is working. Check the logs in /var/log. Maybe messages or authlog.

 

[sonoma1993]

the login will work at the virtual terminal, but when i go through the regualar login, it keep resetting back to pick a user

 

[silverpig]

Try killing your xserver by hitting <ctrl><alt><bksp> a few times until it doesn't come up again. Then log in via text, and then do a startx to see if you can get a gui for a user. If you can, then it's just an xdm/gdm problem.

 

[sonoma1993]

thanks i'll try that and see if it works.

 

[sonoma1993]

at what part do i hit ctrl alt bksp, when id tried startx at the the text menu, it started too boot up into linux then it just sent me back to text menu, givingm e a couple errors and saying shutting down xserver

 

[drag]

CTRL ATL BKSP stops the X server.

Startx is the command to start the X server, but if the graphical login starts at login then it will just automaticly restart each time you kill it. So startx isn't the right thing to do I don't think.

the login will work at the virtual terminal, but when i go through the regualar login, it keep resetting back to pick a user

When you login thru the graphical login, what exactly does it do? Does it act like it's trying to do something.. like blank out or change colors or anything like that? Does it say anything like "your x session lasted less then 10 seconds.. blah blah blah"? Or when you login it just goes right back to asking for your username without doing anything at all? Has it worked in the past, or is this a fresh install?

Unfortunatly I am not to familar with the Mandrake login screen. If it tries do something, like flash or anything, then see if you can choose a different session. Like "gnome default" or KDE. There should be a way to choose something, like a sesison menu or preferances. (but sometimes it's just a plain prompt with no options at all, I am just not sure with Mandrake's setup without having it here in front of me.)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Look at the logs, and see if there is something in there about this.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
at what part do i hit ctrl alt bksp, when id tried startx at the the text menu, it started too boot up into linux then it just sent me back to text menu, givingm e a couple errors and saying shutting down xserver

When you're presented with the gui login hit those keys. It'll come back up so do it again and again (usually 3 or 4 times and then it won't bother starting up again). Once you've got x killed, login via text and then start x manually.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: drag
CTRL ATL BKSP stops the X server.

Startx is the command to start the X server, but if the graphical login starts at login then it will just automaticly restart each time you kill it. So startx isn't the right thing to do I don't think.

the login will work at the virtual terminal, but when i go through the regualar login, it keep resetting back to pick a user

When you login thru the graphical login, what exactly does it do? Does it act like it's trying to do something.. like blank out or change colors or anything like that? Does it say anything like "your x session lasted less then 10 seconds.. blah blah blah"? Or when you login it just goes right back to asking for your username without doing anything at all? Has it worked in the past, or is this a fresh install?

Unfortunatly I am not to familar with the Mandrake login screen. If it tries do something, like flash or anything, then see if you can choose a different session. Like "gnome default" or KDE. There should be a way to choose something, like a sesison menu or preferances. (but sometimes it's just a plain prompt with no options at all, I am just not sure with Mandrake's setup without having it here in front of me.)

If you kill it manually 3 or 4 times in a row it won't bother starting up again. You can then login via text and then start X (this is to see if it's a gdm/xdm/kdm error).

It sounds as though there is a problem with his X server install. Maybe he could boot from the mandrake cd, select upgrade, and reinstall X as well as a few other desktop environments.

OP: What desktop environment are you using? Gnome? KDE? Try using a different one like IceWM or XFCE4 if you can. Install from the boot cd if you have to.

 

[sonoma1993]

id tried each of the diesktop envirments, when i goto login, and it just reset back to the login screen. iit a fresh install, im going to try to reinstall mandrake and go with the default options and see what happens.

 

[drag]

Ya, if it's a fresh install, it sounds like the Mandrake missed installing a important package.

Stupid bug probably.

If your new to Linux try doing "install everything" if that's a option, if not, then just pick all the options. If you have enough disk space that is... differs from distro to distro, but generally between 3-6gigs of disk space is needed minimally for a install everything. Not counting you user's files that you accumulate as you use the computer, though.

Any extra service you install or whatnot can easily be shutoff and all it would take up is diskspace.

 

[pitupepito2000]

Ok, I'll give it a shot. Try the following things:
1. Press "Ctrl+Alt+F1"
2. type your "username" in the login prompt
3. type your "password' in the login prompt
4. type "su" in the login prompt
5. type the passord of root/administrator which you created during the install
6. then type either a) or b) or c) whichever works
a) "/etc/rc.d/kdm stop"
b) "/etc/rc.d/gdm stop"
c) "/etc/rc.d/xdm stop"
7. now type "su username" where username is your regular/mortal username.
8. then type "xinit"
9. that should bring up the xserver without any window manager or desktop environment.
10. try different commands to start a window manager or desktop environment. try to pay attention at what kinds of errors show up in the console, it will probably help you determine if there's any problem starting the desktop environments.
11. Some of the commands that you can try in #10 are: startkde, gnome-session, etc

If neither of the steps in #6 work go ahead with #7.

Good luck,
pitupepito

 

[sonoma1993]

thanks for your help guys. Id ended up reinstalling linux with the defualt options, now i can login and everything working good so far except for one thing. I cant get the internet to work right. Linux detects my realtek network card but it cant seem to find the internet. My computer connected to a microsoft wireless router. Id tried putting in the info it wants manually and doing a auto setup too but that doesnt work either, my router is connected to a cable modem? what can i do to get the internet to work. Btw the info i enter i wrote it down from what windows xp 64-bit has on it network info for my computer.

 

[silverpig]

Is the router assigning IP's by dhcp or statically? Make sure you know so you can set mandrake up right that way.

 

[sonoma1993]

the router signs by dhcp

 

[Drift3r]

OT question but how come you ain't running 64 bit MDK 10 ?

 

[sonoma1993]

i've downloaded the mandrakve v10 64bit but ati and nvidia hasnt release any 64-bit drivers for the mandrake 64 bit

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
i've downloaded the mandrakve v10 64bit but ati and nvidia hasnt release any 64-bit drivers for the mandrake 64 bit

That shouldn't stop you.

You just download the source tarball and as long as you have the kernel sources installed for your kernel you ought to be able to compile a driver for yourself.

It's not as easy as installing the RPM's but it works.

Not a big enough deal to reinstall though. The 64bitness probably won't be realy needed by anything important for another couple years.

That realtech... It's a real realtech, and not something like nvidia onboard nic or anything like that? Because those are realtech-based, but just different enough that they don't work with the regular drivers...

To find out what is going on, open up a terminal. In the terminstal become root using the su command.

su
ifconfig eth0
(should have something. If not then your modules (drivers) are not correctly loaded)
ifconfig eth0 down (may not be needed)
dhclient eth0
or
dhcpcd eth0
(depending on which mandrake uses.)

If you have dhcpcd you may have to add the hostname given to you buy your cable company. It would go something like this:

dhcpcd eth0 -h yourcamblemodemhostname

It's hard to say exactly what you need to do at this stage of the game if it's not working, but going thru those steps will help to narrow the problem down. (if you have multiple ethernet devices they will be eth0 eth1 eth2 etc etc)