Lifting weights... question..

WinkOsmosis

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Is it okay to lift weights every day or is it like running, where you're supposed to do it every other day to let your muscles rebuild?
 

Deeko

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Its better to let major muscles rebuild 48 hours, so maybe do upper body one day, lower the next?
 

ElFenix

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first week you may be able to work the same set every day but its not recommended. instead you work on different groups every day.
 

sohcrates

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i find lifting every other day is much more beneficial...most people agree.

muscle's, or at least different muscle groups, need to recover
 

godspeedx

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O and just for the record, you can run every day of the week except one you can rest. You don't have to take every other day off. :)
 

Mrburns2007

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You need to specify what your goal is ?

If you want to get bigger then less often and higher intensity is better.

This is a good plan:

Sunday: Bench (heavy)
Monday: Squats (heavy)
tuesday: (off)
thursday: Bench (Light)
Friday: Squat (Light)
Saturday: (off)

do this for 6 weeks to allow your body to adjust then start adding in others like Barbell curls and Back rows.

Your goal should be seen as a big picture, plan it over an entire year and you'll have much more success.

This plan is designed to get huge fast !!!!!!!!
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
You need to specify what your goal is ?

If you want to get bigger then less often and higher intensity is better.

This is a good plan:

Sunday: Bench (heavy)
Monday: Squats (heavy)
tuesday: (off)
thursday: Bench (Light)
Friday: Squat (Light)
Saturday: (off)

do this for 6 weeks to allow your body to adjust then start adding in others like Barbell curls and Back rows.

Your goal should be seen as a big picture, plan it over an entire year and you'll have much more success.

This plan is designed to get huge fast !!!!!!!!


Not a BAD plan, but where is the back exercise?!?!?! Need to throw deadlifts in there some where if you want to focus on strictly compound movements.

Most natural bodybuilders prefer a 3-4 day split working each bodypart once a week. I just started this routine this week, it looks pretty promising. It allows me to go heavier on my triceps and biceps, and just seems like an overall great split.

Here it is (This is generalized, I do a bit different depending on my schedule)-

Mon- Chest/Biceps
Tues- Legs
Wed- Rest
Thurs- Shoulders/Triceps
Fri- Back/Rear Deltoids
Sat- Rest
Sun- Rest

If you need recommendations for exercises, ask and I'll tell you what I do.
 

datalink7

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Hey,

I don't have time to go to the gym right now (I don't have a car so it takes me a while to get there, and I have a lot of school work every night). I run 2.5 miles every day durning the week (take weekends off), but would like to work upper body and abs some.

Is it worth it to do pushups and situps/crunches, or is that a waste of time if you don't do other lifting with it?
 
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Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
You need to specify what your goal is ?

If you want to get bigger then less often and higher intensity is better.

This is a good plan:

Sunday: Bench (heavy)
Monday: Squats (heavy)
tuesday: (off)
thursday: Bench (Light)
Friday: Squat (Light)
Saturday: (off)

do this for 6 weeks to allow your body to adjust then start adding in others like Barbell curls and Back rows.

Your goal should be seen as a big picture, plan it over an entire year and you'll have much more success.

This plan is designed to get huge fast !!!!!!!!

WOrking just your chest and (primarily) quads is a good plan? To whom?
 

slikmunks

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
You need to specify what your goal is ?

If you want to get bigger then less often and higher intensity is better.

This is a good plan:

Sunday: Bench (heavy)
Monday: Squats (heavy)
tuesday: (off)
thursday: Bench (Light)
Friday: Squat (Light)
Saturday: (off)

do this for 6 weeks to allow your body to adjust then start adding in others like Barbell curls and Back rows.

Your goal should be seen as a big picture, plan it over an entire year and you'll have much more success.

This plan is designed to get huge fast !!!!!!!!

WOrking just your chest and (primarily) quads is a good plan? To whom?

compound lifts are good... but you should be doing more than squats... if you want a full body workout... try doing sets of power cleans, clean and jerk, or sets of snatches, assuming you have access to olympic weights... THOSE give you explosion and a full body workout... no joke... they're the BEST, imho
 

WinkOsmosis

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I just tried doing some squats without resistance. My right knee burst into a flameball of searing pain. My knees are fuxored. Sometimes I can't run, sometimes I can. Maybe I should see a doctor sometime.
 

slikmunks

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
I just tried doing some squats without resistance. My right knee burst into a flameball of searing pain. My knees are fuxored. Sometimes I can't run, sometimes I can. Maybe I should see a doctor sometime.

anything other than a flameball of pain? where was the pain? sharp? dull? swelling?
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: rpc64
Can weight lifting work if you want to get smaller?

Loose weight you mean?, not all that much, but it dose lean you up a bit. The more muscle you have on your body the more fat you can burn. Personally I lift weights almost every day, really heavy weights, 3 sets of ten for everything I do. As long as your not so sore it hurts to move lifting is fine, I've been having great results by just pumping some weight every day for half an hour to 45 mins (gotta rest inbetween sets). I think just going at it and finding what works best for you is the best way to start, always lift heavy if you want to beef up though.
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: rpc64
Can weight lifting work if you want to get smaller?

Loose weight you mean?, not all that much, but it dose lean you up a bit. The more muscle you have on your body the more fat you can burn. Personally I lift weights almost every day, really heavy weights, 3 sets of ten for everything I do. As long as your not so sore it hurts to move lifting is fine, I've been having great results by just pumping some weight every day for half an hour to 45 mins (gotta rest inbetween sets). I think just going at it and finding what works best for you is the best way to start, always lift heavy if you want to beef up though.

Lift heavy, and EAT!!!!!! But...you say you lift everyday? What's you split?

Yes, lift weights even if you want to lose weight. Lifting weights and proper diet will help you keep the muscle you have while burning off the fat.
 

StageLeft

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You don't really want to. Most people would recommend against a full body work out each work out because it drains you too much. I, for instance, do a three day split so that 3 individual days are required for a total body workout. I leave it such that each particular muscle group gets 5 days rest. I'd say you'd want to give at least 4 days between muscles and many have success giving 7 or more. 48 hours used to be considered the minimum but I think that's old news. In reality if you're working a muscle group hard and doing it every 48 hours you're overtraining. Of course cardio you can do more frequently since you're not working to failure with anerobic excercise.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
I just tried doing some squats without resistance. My right knee burst into a flameball of searing pain. My knees are fuxored. Sometimes I can't run, sometimes I can. Maybe I should see a doctor sometime.

My knees are seriously screwed as well, if you go to kiaser and your not in HORRIBLE pain when you get there, all they do is give you an X-Ray, Anti-Inflamitory and tell you to stretch
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. If your not better in 2 months THEN you get an MRI, which is really the only other thing that'll show docs your knees are f'd up other than orthoscopy, I hate Kiaser.........


PS: I dont work work my lower body due to knee injurys. I see ripped construction workers all the time, yet most of them say they don't lift. Why are they ripped?, because their hauling heavy sh*t around every day :). Lifting everyday will only make you stronger, and you'll know when you need to rest, just don't rob yourself of energy every time you work out. I've been lifting for a little over a year now and I can bench 275 3 times, 4 on a good day. It's only a matter of time before I get to 300 :cool:. You'll have physical limits to, I have a friend who weighes about 150 pounds (this guy is black as oil), and he can bench 325, all he dose is 200 pushups every night.
 
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Originally posted by: slikmunks
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
You need to specify what your goal is ?

If you want to get bigger then less often and higher intensity is better.

This is a good plan:

Sunday: Bench (heavy)
Monday: Squats (heavy)
tuesday: (off)
thursday: Bench (Light)
Friday: Squat (Light)
Saturday: (off)

do this for 6 weeks to allow your body to adjust then start adding in others like Barbell curls and Back rows.

Your goal should be seen as a big picture, plan it over an entire year and you'll have much more success.

This plan is designed to get huge fast !!!!!!!!

WOrking just your chest and (primarily) quads is a good plan? To whom?

compound lifts are good... but you should be doing more than squats... if you want a full body workout... try doing sets of power cleans, clean and jerk, or sets of snatches, assuming you have access to olympic weights... THOSE give you explosion and a full body workout... no joke... they're the BEST, imho

I never said compound lifts aren't good...I said working out by doing just two excercises is crap. Compound lifts should be the core of your workouts but you're not going to get anywhere by doing just squats and bench press. You'll develop a disproportionate body which you'll hate yourself for later when you work and try to get your body into symmetrical form
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: BD231
I've been lifting for a little over a year now and I can bench 275 3 times, 4 on a good day. It's only a matter of time before I get to 300 :cool:. You'll have physical limits to, I have a friend who weighes about 150 pounds (this guy is black as oil), and he can bench 325, all he dose is 200 pushups every night.

Imagine what you could do if you weren't overtraining so much :)
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
I just tried doing some squats without resistance. My right knee burst into a flameball of searing pain. My knees are fuxored. Sometimes I can't run, sometimes I can. Maybe I should see a doctor sometime.

My knees are seriously screwed as well, if you go to kiaser and your not in HORRIBLE pain when you get there, all they do is give you an X-Ray, Anti-Inflamitory and tell you to stretch
rolleye.gif
. If your not better in 2 months THEN you get an MRI, which is really the only other thing that'll show docs your knees are f'd up other than orthoscopy, I hate Kiaser.........


PS: I dont work work my lower body due to knee injurys. I see ripped construction workers all the time, yet most of them say they don't lift. Why are they ripped?, because their hauling heavy sh*t around every day :). Lifting everyday will only make you stronger, and you'll know when you need to rest, just don't rob yourself of energy every time you work out. I've been lifting for a little over a year now and I can bench 275 3 times, 4 on a good day. It's only a matter of time before I get to 300 :cool:. You'll have physical limits to, I have a friend who weighes about 150 pounds (this guy is black as oil), and he can bench 325, all he dose is 200 pushups every night.

I guess do whatever works for you, but I bet you would see larger gains if you followed a better workout routine....

Of course, people lift weights for different reasons. Powerlifters are more concerned with weight lifted as opposed to appearance. Bodybuilders are typically the opposite. We want to lift heavy, but we lift heavy to grow.

And that's too bad that you have knee problems man, nothing worse than for someone to have a stacked upper-body and have chicken-legs. ;) :D (Just kidding) (out of curiosity, what are your stats? ht. wt.)

Oh yeah- the reason those construction workers are ripped is because they burn a lot of calories at work due to the nature of the job. Having a low body-fat % and some muscle mass will make someone look ripped. No matter how much muscle mass they actually have. Now, working a laborious job such as construction will cause someone to get stronger, and eventually one may even grow and get larger from such a task. But, not nearly as quick and efficient as someone who is in the gym 3-4 days a week, getting lost of rest, having a good diet, and taking proper supplementation.
 

StageLeft

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Another thing - when you're young like in your teens you can workout a bit like a fool and still gain good muscle. When I first started I was working out every day. Half body each day - muscles worked every 48 hours. I'd do 12+ sets per body part. I was a the gym for 90 minutes a day. It was ridiculous. I also was eating very little protein. Just all carbs and I got a lot of strength on but really I didn't have a clue what I was doing. In time I changed my routine around based on things I'd read. If something works when you're 16 it doesn't mean it's great because teenage males can really throw muscle mass on very easily.
 

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This has been my schedule for two months. I do cardio every weekday. Hope this helps and gl.

MONDAY
Chest
Incline Dumbell press
Flat bench dumbell flyes
Incline dumbell flyes
Barbell bench press

Back
One arm dumbell bent over rows
Cross bench dumbell pullovers


WED
Shoulders
Seated barbell front press
Lateral dumbell raises
Seated dumbell press

Trapezius
Barbell upright rows
Barbell shrugs

Triceps
Lying triceps extensions
One arm dumbell kickbacks
One arm dumbell extensions


FRIDAY
Thighs
Dumbell lunges
Dumbell squats
lying leg curl
leg extensions

Calves
Seated dumbell calf raises

Biceps
Standing alternate dumbell curls
Seated hammer curls

Foreams
Barbell wrist curls
 

BD231

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Those workers are straight LARGE dude, cardio eats away at muscle(you can find this on any search engine), I also know this is true because I used to run 3 miles every day and building muscle was a biatch then. Now I dont do hardly anything and I'm getting larger muscle wise faster than I ever have before, even when I was worked like a hog in highschool football. I'm not worried about my legs though, I'm a 6'2 220 pound samoan guy, my legs are large no matter how skinny I get :^(. In fact the only reason I even started upper body lifting was because my upper body was so much smaller compared to my legs.

The knee problem really dose suck :eek:, they've been getting nothing but worse to. They are so bad I can't even work unless I'm sitting at a desk, standing up for more than an hour a day keeps me up all night with knee pain. Kiaser tells me to strech and take pain killers :disgust:.

teenage males can really throw muscle mass on very easily.

Dunno about that man, I have a few teen friends that lift because they don't want to be skinny any more and it's taking them forever to get anywhere. They lift far more than I do and all they get is definition. I really think it depends on your body type, I think the prime for bulking up is 18 and up.