Life is mean and scary

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linuxboy

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Do you ever feel that life is not only hard and unfair, but also mean and downright scary? That's how I'm feeling right now. Nothing is promised to you no matter how much you work at it, and everything can be taken away from you in a moment, etc.

If you know what I'm talking about, what do you do to make yourself feel better.. what do you tell yourself, who do you talk to, etc?


Since baffled is posting here (oh and hey Russ :) ), I might as well.

WA261, sertraline doesn't change the way things are, no matter how great and steady the world may seem from those eyes. If you dig, you'll still find specs and remnants of the meanness and scariness of living. Drugs do make coping easier, and can sometimes take you places, but they shut other, more important doors into experience and discovery.

Cmin7, I don't know if you're aware, but I usually do a whole spiel about how people all think they are alone, how nobody can find love, how there is much hatred and evil, how we are doomed to be alone "in the austerity of our minds" followed by another spiel about how every cloud has a silver lining, how there is much good to be done if we choose it, how good a hobby can feel or how good it feels to know that there are people out there who care.

I won't do that today, it doesn't feel right somehow.

We enter naked into this world and naked we exit. There are no covers to help us. We think there is money to comfort, and it does. We think there are friends to solace in times of grief and rejoice in times of happiness and they do. We think our own determination and hard work or wit, intellect, charisma, good genes, et cetera will help us and then when we go through the first two or three decades, when we try out all the world has to offer and still realize we aren't better off then the mindless zygote causing our presence today, then we are looking again at the injustice and evil and lack of good. Nothing is fair. The smart, the nice do not profit and are crushed by the mean and spiteful. The gentle in spirit and the meek are stamped upon until we look at them and wonder what forces could have caused such pain and how is it possible for them to go on living and even stop once in while to say Cheers ! :). It doesn't seem fair. It's just a bunch of dumb luck. I was born pretty, I was born ugly, I was born rich, I was born poor, I was born... Here I am. Here I am, God, and now what? It's scary out there. I don't want to go out and get into the competition and encounter the forces again that brought me into this world. And I don't want to stay here by myself because I long, oh how sweet that is, for company, for people, for meaning, for creating a story and venturing on a journey. And I don't know what to do. Here I am. Nothing was promised to me, how can anyone do this to me? Why wasn't I born in some other place? Why is my life so hard and others can go about smiling, they have all the luck.

Some time ago, I entered a home and it was full of life. I didn't know what to make of it. The people lived in filth and squalor. They were poor. They didn't have much in this world, they weren't very smart or gifted and they weren't cultured or proper. And the home was full of life. It was baffling. They didn't have successful careers or any fancy trophies or pieces of paper to hang on the wall to show how important they were. And the home was full of life. The kids were running around, the wife was busy trying to keep things in order, but she had a smile. They were poor. The home was full of life.

What did that mean? Strawberries taste so good.


If you know what I'm talking about, what do you do to make yourself feel better.. what do you tell yourself, who do you talk to, etc?


I don't do much to make myself feel better. Baffled and Russ here have talked about recognizing that one is responsible for one's destiny, to accept responsibility and to enjoy life, to remember to smile and to laugh and to enjoy things and to not get too discouraged. I think that's all very good. It helps to have a positive attitude and indeed this maybe a solution for many people. I don't think that's my solution, at least, not very rationally. I don't think I need to tell myself to feel better. There is joy in the world and there is joy in the hardship and misery you describe. I don't tell myself anything, what's the point, we all die. Who do I talk to? I think people wind up talking to me, usually.

Strawberries taste so good. It will be June soon and I can go and pick them. Migrant workers usually come to pick as well for the season. They have great stories to tell.

Cheers ! :)
 

linuxboy

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<< prozac helps. >>



Fluoxetine is no solution for madness, or recognition of it and living with it in oneself or in the environment. The help gained from altering body chemistry for a nonbiological basis shows itself to be almost nonexistent when full implications of long-term SSRI use are examined in longitudinal studies. The problems we have been faced with as humans continue to pervade our minds, our art, our experiences and solutions to limitations. Science cannot help with fundamental problems of meaning as it is a tool and a process that can be used as a worldview with great care and trembling, lest we too become monsters. Thank you for the contribution, but I don't see how your pithiness solves much or addresses my earlier concern of indiscriminate sertraline use (and I do think most diagnoses now are erroneous, but they do sell and make money so hey... what do I know).

Cheers ! :)
 

UberNeuman

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<< what do you do to make yourself feel better.. >>



I think about the guy stuck in the windsheild - if you think life is hard on you, try taking his spot on the hood and see if you still feel the same way...
 

Moonbeam

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Somewhere in the last few days I heard this comment. "The reason people cry is because they feel better afterword." I think there is wisdom here. Have these thoughts you are thinking ever made you cry? They have made me cry. They made me angry first. Engaged actually. I didn't want to cry. The rage was how I kept from crying. But when I did cry, I cried and cried and cried, and cried and cried some more. I have cried so hard and so long and so many times that I think I may have gone just tiny little bit sane, because now what usually happens when is that I cry I start to laugh. I cry and I cry, and then I laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. So I have to be very careful when I get around people who say things like life is hard and unfair and mean and frightening. I have to repress the tendency to say, "You're putting me on. You mean life is all those thing. Really! You mean there is pain? You want to tell me about pain? You know pain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful wonder of wonders! Let us laugh together.
 

Stifko

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I think about the guy stuck in the windsheild

Me too, you gotta be thankfull for whatcha got now & life in the momment. It could always be worse.
 

PistachioByAzul

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Life is mean and scary

Only when it's contrasted to the "normal" life we think we should have. We look to the next guy with our fake smile and think "man I wish I could be happy for real like him", and what do you know, he's thinking the same of us. I think we're torn between primitive instinct and concious self-awareness. We try to deny on the surface that we're just weak animals and that our lives are insignificant, meanwhile sub-conciously we know better, hence the torment most people face from this perpetual denial. Again it's important to understand that we're only weak insignificant creatures when we compare our world to this imaginary ideal that our egos cook up. Life is fine and dandy if you stop expecting.

Don't mess with those damn pharmaceutical drugs
 

JEDI

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Cmin7, if u are feeling suicidal, find help. Call a suicide hotline (toll free #) from a payphone if u want to keep it anonymous.

YOU ARE THE MASTER OF YOUR OWN DESTINY! Keep saying that to yourself to get yourself motivated to do things that u always wanted to do, but was afriad of, or procrastinated.

i knew someone who grew up w/everything handed to him. his parents paid for his college, he found a job w/o any effort, had a great girlfriend, etc. Then his world crumbled. his girlfriend broke up w/him, he got laid off from his job, and he was being evicted from his appt. and what did he do. NOTHING. He wasn't the master of his destiny. he just let everything drift on by, letting luck/fate decide. Now he's in his mid-thirty's living w/his parents again.

linuxboy, good story. i agree $ doesnt cause happiness. Having a life w/friends that care about you (and you about them) is what i think happiness is about.

And if you dont have anyone, be the master of your destiny. go out and make friends! You gota start by leaving the appt and meeting people. since u dont like church, how about school? go to a college that accepts anyone (ie: community college) and learn something that you always wanted.

also, no matter how bad u feel now, you will feel better when u wake up the next morning. Of course as the day passes, u may feel as bad again. but it's up to you not to let that happen.
 

Cyberian

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<< Some time ago, I entered a home and it was full of life. I didn't know what to make of it. The people lived in filth and squalor. They were poor. They didn't have much in this world, they weren't very smart or gifted and they weren't cultured or proper. And the home was full of life. It was baffling. They didn't have successful careers or any fancy trophies or pieces of paper to hang on the wall to show how important they were. And the home was full of life. The kids were running around, the wife was busy trying to keep things in order, but she had a smile. They were poor. The home was full of life.
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Well said, young linuxperson. I lived happily in that very home many and many a year ago.
 

linuxboy

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Let us laugh together.

HeHeHeHe. Ahhhah. You're killing me here Moonie. You're killing me. HeHeHeHe.

Having a life w/friends that care about you (and you about them) is what i think happiness is about.

That does bring about comfort and causes much pleasure. Is it happiness? It can be. Much joy is there for the picking. But you have to take off your shoes first.

I lived happily in that very home many and many a year ago.

I must have been your younger brother. Yes, now that I think about it, your face does look familiar. There was a guy who liked to wear read and white stripes.

Cheers ! :)
 

Wow! This is too deep for me at the moment. I'm scared almost everyone has been on prozac or something. *Dreads at that thought!*

Linux Boy, I hope you are okay. That's deep, man! If you don't do anything, then what do you not do? Does that question make any sense? Gosh!

Well, I'm not about to get into this deeply. But in a nutshell, life is what we all experience. Don't let anyone fool you, not even the wealthiest human being with a smile on his or her face. Everyone encounters that moment of difficulty or despair at some point in life. The only difference is how we all choose to handle the matter.

Now, think if life were all dandy, then would such thing as "dandiness" exist? I think not. What makes life dandy and makes us able to differentiate bad from good and pleasure from pain is the very existence of the opposite. It is a concept of dualism that makes life pleasurable. Accept it as such and aim at doing better. You determine your destiny, my friend, depending upon how willing you are to continue that jorney on the horizon. :)

*Hoping I stuck to my words of not getting too deep into it! I think I did!*

Now, I've gotta jet to bed. I am having a headache! Ugh!

Sweet dreams to me and to all of you too!

Au revoir, mes amis. :D
 

linuxboy

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luvly, mon chou, je pense que tu ne comprends pas l'exactement mes mots. Et bon nuit a toi aussi. Cheers ! :) et benedictions, toujours.

Linux Boy, I hope you are okay.

I certainly am okay. Perhaps better than okay lately and well, for the duration of my entire life, actually.

That's deep, man!


Ah, but if depth lies in obscure language or esoteric meanings then if I have that, I must say it's really a bunch of nonsense. Real depth doesn't come from anything I say. If you happen to come across something you think it's deep, then you've known it all along, and I just helped you see it. :)

If you don't do anything, then what do you not do?


Let us be clear. Who is this "you" to whom you keep referring? :D. I don't do many things. I don't take fluoxetine, for example (prozac). Though I have a tendency to like certain mushrooms that seem to appear in threads I post. That's still not doing not doing.

Are you trying to get me to say some idea of sunyata of eastern ideas of nothingness or trying to analyze my thoughts under a microscope with your love for logic to fit me into a formal system? I do not do everything. And I do nothing. Play with the symbolic represenations of those things, you'll see some interesting results. Oh and that is a conjunction for me with a semantic value of "true". Think about metameaning if you'd like to get anywhere near beaing confused enough to find value in my words.

Does that question make any sense? Gosh!


You're sweet with saying words like "gosh". Just tell me what you're trying to get at, I'll help you dig at it.

Also remember that what I post may be simply to express or portray feelings or states I may have experienced at some point in my life. My current state right now is not exactly known to many people, if at all. You know.

Cheers ! :)
 

jjones

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It's all about putting the garbage that life sometimes serves up behind you and keep moving on to better days. Surely, life does hand out rotten tomatoes and you can get quite a few for an extended period of time but one thing I've learned is that everything passes.

Got to keep on, keeping on and it certainly helps to foster close friendships (or relationships) when you can to help pull you through the the days when the sun doesn't shine.
 

MikeO

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<< Trapped in a nightmare called life
With no sign of exit I am gonna die

My soul is filled with hate
Can't see through my anger
My selfconfidence has been dead for years
How can I live this life

I've been destroyed a thousand times
Still try to stand tall
Don't know how long I can fight back
With the rope around my neck

- Peter T&auml;gtgren / Pain
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That's pretty much how I feel about this wonderful thing called life.
 

linuxboy

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<< Gosh, linuxboy, I thought your current state was Washington. >>



Though I have a tendency to like certain mushrooms that seem to appear in threads I post :D

Cheers ! :)
 

kgdb

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Well life does have many many goofy twists and for many of them its tough to put logic to them! Life is short, one minute here, the next gone. Take nothing for granted, love eveyone like there is no tomorrow! Work hard and do the best you can, thats all you can do. I get comfort from my family when I am down. I look at mu son and think of all the joy he has brought us :)
 

Moonbeam

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linuxboy, I bet you say that to all the muchrooms. :D

Dang, mto81, I hope you read my 'a couple ago' posts. Sounds like you could use it. Don't know if I can do much I can always offer you a 'hands across the forum' kind of thing if you care to elaborate. One thing should be obvious. You are not alone.
 

rgwalt

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Cmin7-

Sometimes you have to take a step back and know that you can't look at the big picture of your life. It is too overwhelming to see everything that you want to accomplish and consider all of the possibilities. You've got to take it day by day. There are some weeks/months where when I say to myself "I made it through yesterday" (Godsmack) or "I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive" (Tool). Taking it day by day gets me through. I also know from experience that the really tough events eventually smooth out if you simply carry on with day to day living. The bumps in the road decay and smooth back out. Things might not be great now, but they will slowly get better. So slowly in fact that before you know it, you'll be OK again.

I wish you the best. Also, if you ever want to talk about how I came to believe in God, then please PM or e-mail me. It will change your life for the better.

Ryan