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Life Is A Precious Gift From Our Creator and Cannot Be Tampered With

MAW1082

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"Life Is A Precious Gift From Our Creator and Cannot Be Tampered With"

- Gearge W Bush Stae of Union Address 2006

Yeah, so my question is . . . how can he get away with saying this?

We've already done the evolution thread . . . and we all agree nobody created human life unless you say the forces of nature and natural selection created it. So he's calling on lawmakers to protect something held sacred by his religious doctrine.

Fvck this guy . . . I wish he would rot in hell . . . if there really was a hell that is . . .
 
He can get away with it because he's the president and no one gives a flying fck about your opinion (sadly).
 
Originally posted by: jrenz
Separation of Church and state? You're clueless.

Well I guess if would all believe that there is little or no separation between church and state, maybe we would all understand why the country is in all kinds of trouble all over the world.

Let's just pretend non of the last three thousand years ever happened and start jailing scientists and fighting wars against countries that openly support other religions.
 
Originally posted by: MAW1082
Originally posted by: jrenz
Separation of Church and state? You're clueless.

Well I guess if would all believe that there is little or no separation between church and state, maybe we would all understand why the country is in all kinds of trouble all over the world.

Let's just pretend non of the last three thousand years ever happened and start jailing scientists and fighting wars against countries that openly support other religions.

Seeing as how you can't seem to form a coherant thought, I somewhat understand why you see anything having to do with a creator as a violation of church and state. I forgive you.
 
I'm not for religion and that, but creator can mean many things. Creator, as in nature, creator as in a God. When Kerry mentions a god, not a creator but a god, I assume you're fine with that, but not President Bush.

And I think that it is quite clear that jrenz meant that the church and the state are never truly separated. As long as the constitutions protects religion, it will never be.
 
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.
"Life is a precious gift that resulted from the Big Bang, which led to a combination of small one-celled organisms in an oxygen-rich environment and it cannot be tampered with."

The day I hear that during a State of the Union speech is the day I walk around with my mouth agape all night.
 
Well I can distinctly remember the Democrat response from Tim Kaine had mention of the creator but of course I see nothing wrong with that either.

It's not about partisanship or political spin. It's about protecting the rights endowed by our creator, fulfilling the principle of equality set out in our Declaration of Independence, and ensuring that the light of liberty shines on every American.



 
Hey, he did not say God.

BTW, it was the big bang that put on your arms, legs, and plugged in your brain and eyeballs. 😉
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Hey, he did not say God.

BTW, it was the big bang that put on your arms, legs, and plugged in your breain and eyeballs. 😉
I believe Mr. Evolution and Mrs. Natural Selection did that, not the Big Bang. 😀
 
I can't remember where I saw it but someone did a comparison and Bill Clinton brought up "God" more than George W. Bush at the same point in their presidencies.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Raildogg, don't be disingenuous. You know as well as I do that Bush is referring to the Christian God, whom he worships.

Moreover, there's nothing wrong with that. The seperation of church and state in America in no way prevents the President or any other elected official from professing his or her faith.
 
I don't quite agree with the OP but it is a retarded thing to say.

We tamper with life all the time. Some of us went to school forever to learn how . . . well at least we learned how to get paid for it.😀
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Raildogg, don't be disingenuous. You know as well as I do that Bush is referring to the Christian God, whom he worships.

Moreover, there's nothing wrong with that. The seperation of church in state in America in no way prevents the President or any other elected official from professing his or her faith.

I did not say Bush that meant that or didn't. This is my belief. Bush can believe in a Christian god, and I can, for example, believe in a non-Christian god. The point is that everyone has a creator. Some people consider one entity or person to be theirs while others feel differently.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.
 
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "god" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "thing" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
My parents did not "create" me. The joining of my father's sperm cell and my mother's egg cell was the moment of my conception. That fertilized egg cell eventually divided enough times and used data encoded in DNA to form me, a human being.
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "thing" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
My parents did not "create" me. The joining of my father's sperm cell and my mother's egg cell was the moment of my conception. That fertilized egg cell eventually divided enough times and used data encoded in DNA to form me, a human being.

OK! And who created the egg, and who created the sperm!?

Creator does not have to refer to a supernatural being. God does not necessarily have to refer to a supernatural being, it is whatever you believe in.

Really this argument is ridiculous.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "thing" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
My parents did not "create" me. The joining of my father's sperm cell and my mother's egg cell was the moment of my conception. That fertilized egg cell eventually divided enough times and used data encoded in DNA to form me, a human being.

OK! And who created the egg, and who created the sperm!?

Creator does not have to refer to a supernatural being. God does not necessarily have to refer to a supernatural being, it is whatever you believe in.

Really this argument is ridiculous.

-Kevin
Nothing "creates" cells. They form spontaneously given a set of perfect or near-perfect conditions.
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "thing" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
My parents did not "create" me. The joining of my father's sperm cell and my mother's egg cell was the moment of my conception. That fertilized egg cell eventually divided enough times and used data encoded in DNA to form me, a human being.

OK! And who created the egg, and who created the sperm!?

Creator does not have to refer to a supernatural being. God does not necessarily have to refer to a supernatural being, it is whatever you believe in.

Really this argument is ridiculous.

-Kevin
Nothing "creates" cells. They form spontaneously given a set of perfect or near-perfect conditions.

Your parents chose (likely) to create you. Without them, you wouldn't be here today. The sperm and the egg came from them. Yes, conditions have to be right, but you cannot deny the role that they played in creating you.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: raildogg
What is so wrong with that statement? Life is from our creator. That creator could be anything, god, mother earth, water, sun, leaves, grass, your parents, etc.

Life comes from somewhere - a creator.

Yea? Prove it. Its not possible to prove that something doesnt exist, but youre making the claim that a creator exists. So prove it.

Your parents created you, didn't they? So if you do not believe in the creator, you can surely accept your parents as your creators. Or you can choose mother earth and nature in general as your creator. It's a matter of personal beliefs. I believe that god plays a role in the formation of man and woman.

It is not possible for you to prove that "thing" doesn't exist. It is possible to prove it does exist if you choose to accept faith and let god in your life.
My parents did not "create" me. The joining of my father's sperm cell and my mother's egg cell was the moment of my conception. That fertilized egg cell eventually divided enough times and used data encoded in DNA to form me, a human being.

OK! And who created the egg, and who created the sperm!?

Creator does not have to refer to a supernatural being. God does not necessarily have to refer to a supernatural being, it is whatever you believe in.

Really this argument is ridiculous.

-Kevin
Nothing "creates" cells. They form spontaneously given a set of perfect or near-perfect conditions.

Your parents chose (likely) to create you. Without them, you wouldn't be here today. The sperm and the egg came from them. Yes, conditions have to be right, but you cannot deny the role that they played in creating you.
My parents decided to have sex without using a condom in the hopes that my mother would get pregnant. That is not "creation." It is a natural biological process.
 
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