Lieberman v.s Bush= win win situtation

[manly]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

If you tally up the electoral votes in the region, the only states that matter are Texas and Florida. And in all probability, both are also firmly in the Bush camp in 2004, so the South is a COMPLETE write-off regardless of the Democratic candidate.

TX, I understand but what makes you think FL is solid Bush territory? Gov. Jeb is GOP but both senators are Democrats.

Yeah the state itself is a swing state, but clearly, the Bush clan's position in the state is MUCH more formidable today than 2 years ago. Unless either of the two brothers does something politically suicidal, I don't see the advantage eroding too much, esp. with G.W. standing as wartime president in a never-ending "war against terrorism".

How do you think Jeb guaranteed the state to his brother in 2000? He greased the political wheels in his state, there were some questionable voter outreach tactics used, and some uncorroborated complaints of limited access to voting. Even then, the statewide vote was literally a tie (mathematicians were on record saying with current voting administration, hundreds of votes out of 6 million casted is FAR below the margin of error). It was the all-or-none electoral vote rule that did Gore in (and I'm ignoring the messy post-election political recount saga). Even if it was Gore that won the electoral votes in FL, I would still believe the "loser" got jobbed out of electoral votes because a few hundred votes is mathematically insignificant to declare a clear victor.

 

[JellyBaby]

If DNC approves Lieberman as the candidate, the real question is will he win more electoral votes than Mondale back in the 80s?

 

[EXman]

Jewish president Ha we'd really piss off the middle easterners. White house would be the next target of a 757. I like the guy (not more than Bush) and he is fairly moderate but I do not think he will be the Dem nominee.

 

[jahawkin]

There's no way that Lieberman will be the dems choice for 2004. Who does he appeal to?? Conservative dems and liberal Repubs?? Sorry, that's not going to win him any democratic primaries.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BooneRebel
....He's always struck me as a weasel.

Maybe because he IS a weasel

CkG

 

[Angrymarshmello]

If Lieberman ran vs Bush it would indeed be a "win win" situation for Bush. Lieberman doesn't have enough push to win vs Bush.

 

[dethman]

if we elected a jew to the white house we'd be so screwed by the middle east.

 

[BatmanNate]

Alan Keyes was the last non-white presidential candidate, and ironically he was an avid conservative.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Alan Keyes was the last non-white presidential candidate, and ironically he was an avid conservative.

Contrary to popular belief, many non-whites (including blacks) are conservative. We just dislike the conservative party in America.

 

[Trezza]

hate me if you want i wouldn't vote for lieberman just because he is jewish... why???

Because with all this middle east BS they would more than likely hate us even more and nowadays that wouldn't be good

otherwise who cares he is jewish

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Dude, American Middle East policy is so slanted towards Israel that no one considers the US a fair arbiter. Clinton was more judicious than Bush but it's always been clear that we favor Israel, followed by countries willing to get along with Israel (Jordan, Egypt), and then damn everybody else.

In the aftermath of the US invasion (liberation) of Iraq, there will be relatively few gradations of hate for US foreign policy in the region.

If Lieberman's religion is the only reason you won't vote for him . . . you have a right to vote your ignorance.