Lieberman v.s Bush= win win situtation

sean2002

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With lieberman running if it were down to Bush v.s lieberman, moderate republications like me who don't feel we have to vote along party line would be in a win win situtation.
 

0roo0roo

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yup jew = screwed.

not as bad as hindu/buhddist/athiest/agnostic/muslim/etc but still doom for presidential run esp in south.
 

Zebo

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Win win for what? 400 billion dollar deficits? I wonder when our credit runs out? We don't produce anything but debt.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yup jew = screwed.

not as bad as hindu/buhddist/athiest/agnostic/muslim/etc but still doom for presidential run esp in south.

Yeah we ignorant racist southerners would never vote for anyone that was not pure ivory white and baptist.
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BDawg

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Win win for what? 400 billion dollar deficits? I wonder when our credit runs out? We don't produce anything but debt.

I thought you liked Bush.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: axiom
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Win win for what? 400 billion dollar deficits? I wonder when our credit runs out? We don't produce anything but debt.
How much do you earn? How much debt do you have?

If a man makes $50,000 he can probably manage $5,000 in debt. If the man now makes $100,000 he can probably handle $10,000 in debt. 400 billion is manageable if GDP is growing.

400 billion is the deficit not the debt which will hover around 8 trillion by years end.

Using your calculations (excluding personal debt) every man, woman and child would have to make $3,000,000 a year
to properly mange it. And since we moving many jobs overseas I don't see how that going to happen.
 

Linflas

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This is why I would not vote for Lieberman:

Lieberman said he would soon send a letter to leaders of the entertainment industry reiterating a challenge recently set forth by him and Gore that they adopt a voluntary system to stop marketing inappropriate movies, music and video games to youngsters and abide by their own warning labels. He said his letter would warn of government action if the industry doesn't produce voluntary standards.

It has nothing to do with his skin color or religion.
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: Linflas
This is why I would not vote for Lieberman:

Lieberman said he would soon send a letter to leaders of the entertainment industry reiterating a challenge recently set forth by him and Gore that they adopt a voluntary system to stop marketing inappropriate movies, music and video games to youngsters and abide by their own warning labels. He said his letter would warn of government action if the industry doesn't produce voluntary standards.

It has nothing to do with his skin color or religion.

well from that he did not say they were going to ban games.

it really isnt any differnet than when the alchol and tobacco people were stopped marketing to kids / minors. we still have both but now it is not being directed at kids.
 

ElFenix

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a guy who hates games or a man who loves the game.... hmmmm... which would i pick?
 

Cfour

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Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Linflas
This is why I would not vote for Lieberman:

Lieberman said he would soon send a letter to leaders of the entertainment industry reiterating a challenge recently set forth by him and Gore that they adopt a voluntary system to stop marketing inappropriate movies, music and video games to youngsters and abide by their own warning labels. He said his letter would warn of government action if the industry doesn't produce voluntary standards.

It has nothing to do with his skin color or religion.

well from that he did not say they were going to ban games.

it really isnt any differnet than when the alchol and tobacco people were stopped marketing to kids / minors. we still have both but now it is not being directed at kids.

Tell me you didnt just compare tobacco to video games... a deadly substance to a piece of entertainment... lol
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: Cfour
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Linflas
This is why I would not vote for Lieberman:

Lieberman said he would soon send a letter to leaders of the entertainment industry reiterating a challenge recently set forth by him and Gore that they adopt a voluntary system to stop marketing inappropriate movies, music and video games to youngsters and abide by their own warning labels. He said his letter would warn of government action if the industry doesn't produce voluntary standards.

It has nothing to do with his skin color or religion.

well from that he did not say they were going to ban games.

it really isnt any differnet than when the alchol and tobacco people were stopped marketing to kids / minors. we still have both but now it is not being directed at kids.

Tell me you didnt just compare tobacco to video games... a deadly substance to a piece of entertainment... lol

no i didn't

 

manly

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Originally posted by: axiom
Can Lieberman carry the South though? You know how the South can be regarding NorEasterlies.
This is completely immaterial.

Even Bill Clinton couldn't carry the South in 1996 (he did pick up a handful of Southern states). If you tally up the electoral votes in the region, the only states that matter are Texas and Florida. And in all probability, both are also firmly in the Bush camp in 2004, so the South is a COMPLETE write-off regardless of the Democratic candidate.

Gore nearly won the electoral college by winning only about 30% of the 50 states (I'm guessing because I don't recall the exact number). He'd be sitting in the White House today if only he had picked up his home state TN or Clinton's home state AK.

In short, the Democrats have ZERO chance of winning the South, but there are more than plenty of electoral votes elsewhere.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Yeah we ignorant racist southerners would never vote for anyone that was not pure ivory white and baptist.

Let's see . . . who was the last presidential candidate to carry the South . . . that was not white and Baptist? Lieberman needs a token Protestant . . . preferably Protestant with Southern roots. Well at least one candidate will not be visiting BJU.
 

NakaNaka

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I like Liberman except for his video game policy. I know it sounds stupid, but how can I want someone running my country when he can't even understand that some kids are just crazy. People don't shoot up schools because of video games, they do it because of poor upbringings and a twisted wire in their brain.

As for Bush, no way would I vote for him, especially with his new economic policy. It's proven that trickle-down economics doesn't work. Also, why do I want a president who is a worse public speaker than myself? Yes, he is very personable, but some of his Bushims are just pathetic.
 

BooneRebel

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Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: axiom
Can Lieberman carry the South though? You know how the South can be regarding NorEasterlies.
This is completely immaterial.

Even Bill Clinton couldn't carry the South in 1996 (he did pick up a handful of Southern states). If you tally up the electoral votes in the region, the only states that matter are Texas and Florida. And in all probability, both are also firmly in the Bush camp in 2004, so the South is a COMPLETE write-off regardless of the Democratic candidate.

Gore nearly won the electoral college by winning only about 30% of the 50 states (I'm guessing because I don't recall the exact number). He'd be sitting in the White House today if only he had picked up his home state TN or Clinton's home state AK.

In short, the Democrats have ZERO chance of winning the South, but there are more than plenty of electoral votes elsewhere.
Clinton came from Alaska??? :D

Lieberman doesn't have a chance.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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If you tally up the electoral votes in the region, the only states that matter are Texas and Florida. And in all probability, both are also firmly in the Bush camp in 2004, so the South is a COMPLETE write-off regardless of the Democratic candidate.

TX, I understand but what makes you think FL is solid Bush territory? Gov. Jeb is GOP but both senators are Democrats.
 

BooneRebel

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yeah we ignorant racist southerners would never vote for anyone that was not pure ivory white and baptist.

Let's see . . . who was the last presidential candidate to carry the South . . . that was not white and Baptist? Lieberman needs a token Protestant . . . preferably Protestant with Southern roots. Well at least one candidate will not be visiting BJU.
Who was the last presidential candidate that was not white?

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Who was the last presidential candidate that was not white?

I was including primary candidates. Regardless, the stated criteria for southern bigot was white and Baptist. I'm sure a couple of Methodists, Presbyterians, and Lutherans . . . well maybe not a Lutheran . . . have won significant swaths of the South. But the larger issue, as during the 2000 campaign, is the bias against non-whites and non-Protestants . . . particularly in the South.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: BooneRebel
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yeah we ignorant racist southerners would never vote for anyone that was not pure ivory white and baptist.

Let's see . . . who was the last presidential candidate to carry the South . . . that was not white and Baptist? Lieberman needs a token Protestant . . . preferably Protestant with Southern roots. Well at least one candidate will not be visiting BJU.
Who was the last presidential candidate that was not white?

Alan Keys (sp?) in 2000
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I think he will carry fewer votes than Gore did originally. Poor public presence for one. He's always struck me as a weasel.
I must admit I'm inclined to agree with the weasel personification . . . granted, I think Bush is little more than a rodent, as well.