License plates expired??The Police know Before they stop you.

[cavemanmoron]

This is not the only thing being tested.
Drive careful people,wear your seat belts,keep the mufflers on the car,
keep the stereo at a reasonable level......
Make sure whoever drives your car obeys the traffic laws.

http://www.wnyt.com/x6246.xml?ag=x995&sb=x183

Troopers testing high-tech scanners

Device can scan license plate on a moving car

LOUDONVILLE, Dec. 12
By WNYT Staff

New technology being tested by the New York State Police gives troopers information about a motor vehicle's status quicker than ever before.

It's called the Mobile Plate Hunter and state police are using about a dozen of the devices across New York?including in the Capital Region?to test out their effectiveness. The device scans a license plate, checks it against a Department of Motor Vehicles database, and lets the trooper know if a car's registration is expired.

Two infrared cameras mounted on top of the police cruiser snap digital photos of license plates, whether the vehicle is moving or stationary. The scanner's manufacturer says it can even read a plate on a car passing at 75 miles an hour.

Law enforcement agencies in California, Arizona, Ohio and Canada are also using the scanners.

You can get a speeding ticket in construction zones mailed to you now;


You can get red light and "No turn" on red tickets mailed to you.

Those don't matter who was driving the car,the owner gets the fines,
and if not paid in a certain time the fines double,and if still not paid;
you will lose the registration,and maybe the car.

You car insurance companies can now in Several States;
pay a fee,and be notified of any,and all tickets
via email,the same day that the Court Clerk enters them into the computer.
With this new computer program this is Automatic.

More sneaky stuff coming,some of it next year.

 

[bradruth]

Mmm...technology. Now all I need is a set of self-applying handcuffs and some sort of telepathic paperwork machine.

 

[Kelvrick]

So, does a policeman in the passenger seat control it, or does this thing automatically scan all the cars passing the policeman? All the ones dirrectly ahead?

 

[Bootprint]

I've heard of them testing a similar device checking parked cars.

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"High-Tech Scanner Helps Police Find Stolen Cars"
Halifax Daily News (05/19/04) P. 4; Dooley, Richard

Police in Halifax, Nova Scotia, can now use an innovative tool designed to scrutinize license plates to find stolen cars. Dubbed the Auto Find Recovery System, a special vehicle is equipped with a cutting-edge video system that reads license plates and compares them to a database of plates from stolen vehicles. Two cameras are attached to the roof of the auto finder, an altered Dodge Durango, to enable the vehicle to read plates on either side. The $100,000 vehicle is on long-term loan from the Insurance Bureau of Canada; Justin Murray, director of investigation for the bureau's Atlantic region, estimates that replacing and locating stolen cars cost insurance firms around C$600 million annually in Canada. With the addition of policing costs, auto theft amounts to a C$1.2 billion annual problem. The vehicle locator is likely to help find cars abandoned far away from the site of the theft. A comparable vehicle used by Toronto police last year was able to locate 300 pilfered vehicles in its first month of use, and could scan and scrutinize approximately 1,000 plates an hour. Roughly 1,800 cars are stolen annually in the Halifax area, mostly to be used for transportation or to commit crimes, while some car parts are sold illegally. www.hfxnews.com

 

[MX2]

Wait till face recognition technology is perfected and incorporated into every single security camera you now see in stores, in parking lots, at traffic intersections, etc.

Hi Big Brother!*waves*

 

[Mrfrog840]

why cant we go back to the goold old days were cops catch bad guys in high speed chases

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Mrfrog840
why cant we go back to the goold old days were cops catch bad guys in high speed chases

We still do that.

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: MX2times
Wait till face recognition technology is perfected and incorporated into every single security camera you now see in stores, in parking lots, at traffic intersections, etc.

Hi Big Brother!*waves*

Hmm, so that's why some banks don't want you to wear a baseball cap while in the branch.

 

[AlienCraft]

As long as you obey the laws, keep the registration current, etc. None of this will matter.
I don't let anyone else drive my car, so really, the only thing I care about, is equal enforcement of the laws.

But somehow, the economically advantaged will fare better than those less fortunate.
Just another example of "DaMan trying to keep a brother down."

Remember, the police do little or nothing "good" for 99% of citizens. Their sole purpose is to protect business and keep the regular citizens cowed and in line. They do little to investigate residential burgularies, personal car theft or protect people from personal assualt, even when the evidence of these crimes is hand delivered to them. They will however, render aid above and beyond to protect a business (things) and the social elite.

 

[MX2]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Remember, the police do little or nothing "good" for 99% of citizens. Their sole purpose is to protect business and keep the regular citizens cowed and in line. They do little to investigate residential burgularies, personal car theft or protect people from personal assualt, even when the evidence of these crimes is hand delivered to them. They will however, render aid above and beyond to protect a business (things) and the social elite.

Thats ridiculous:roll:

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Remember, the police do little or nothing "good" for 99% of citizens. Their sole purpose is to protect business and keep the regular citizens cowed and in line. They do little to investigate residential burgularies, personal car theft or protect people from personal assualt, even when the evidence of these crimes is hand delivered to them. They will however, render aid above and beyond to protect a business (things) and the social elite.

Easy there, C. Wright Mills.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go manipulate the means of production.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

there talking about getting them here in Topeka

 

[AlienCraft]

Well, when the Police have you call in report for a residential burgurlary, yet send out a forensic team to the stores, slam a middle class kid to the ground for riding a skateboard in the street, yet treat the children of the local government or business elite with kid gloves when they're caught say with drugs or an underage girl, what other conclusion can you draw? The fact that this seems to go on and on across the country and in towns and cities, big and small only points out the endimic and systemic corruption that occurs as social systems decay.

London is burning but I live by the river, so what do I care ?

I've seen it in the "good ol boy" local poLICE in Abbeyville,SC when he took 67.00 off me for a "speeding fine." I got my $67.00 back because my friend who lived there (and still does) had a direct line to that cop's boss, and told him just who "that California boy who Dillard ( yes , that was his name) gave a "ticket" to and took his money kin are."
My greatgrandfather was Anderson County Sheriff, Uncle was in F.B.I. back then, and grandfather was on the Grand Jury, and we (my Grandfather and I) had wired the Chief's house.
Dude, you know it goes down like that , even where you are "serving and protecting". The story is the same coast to coast, the only exception is the degree to which it is cultivated.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Dude, you know it goes down like that , even where you are "serving and protecting". The story is the same coast to coast, the only exception is the degree to which it is cultivated.

You seem to think that this stuff is institutionalized. I would argue that those who buckle to political pressure have their own political goals in mind and are completely self-serving. In other words, it's not the system--it's the individual.

 

[cyclistca]

You can get red light and "No turn" on red tickets mailed to you.

Good, It's getting to the point were I wonder if I'll survive my drive to and from work or walking to the store to get some milk. I'm seeing more and more people blow right through stop signs and red lights. I bet if you hit these ass hats in the pocket they'll change their ways.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: bradruth
Mmm...technology. Now all I need is a set of self-applying handcuffs and some sort of telepathic paperwork machine.

hehe.. making it easier to get the monthly quotas?

just kidding bradruth

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
So, does a policeman in the passenger seat control it, or does this thing automatically scan all the cars passing the policeman? All the ones dirrectly ahead?

With a camera and some programming they can program the license plate and the font / text possibilites into a scanner.

I am not looking forward to revenue makers in our future.

Here in Palm Beach County, they are doing the old VASCAR now. Add that to even if you contest and the officer doesn't show up, the judge declares 'They were right' basically. Traffic Court is outside due process already.

Leave it to recovering stolen cars to get this law in...seriously how many steal a car and don't remove the fvcking plates and replace with the same car. I am willing to bet they have a lot of photos of bums and crackheads 'arrested' though.

There are many people adopting these 'beliefs', it's going to undo the America that already went through this. Currently the coward wins...America wants to sip their Starbucks, while holding a cell phone chatting, in their SUV with one or two kids in the back and maybe a pet and a soccer ball/cleats/clothes and insist they have to have such a large vehicle, then cry out when some rare happening occurs and demand all possible things that can offer protection and defense are removed.

GO TEAM!

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Civil Servants / Soldiers are among the easiest to get to, and if they become collateral damage make a good story.

Personally I am finding the USA is getting closer to an Aristicracy...but this isn't P&N and I don't want to venture in there.

 

[FeuerFrei]

Thankfully, I have tinted plate covers to obscure my expired plates ... to a degree. The legit plates are under the front seat.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Thankfully, I have tinted plate covers to obscure my expired plates ... to a degree. The legit plates are under the front seat.

Why keep the real plates under the seat?

 

[Ornery]

...sneaky stuff...

Good! I'm tired of seeing scofflaws get away with all this shlt. I guess people who follow the law are just chumps, right?

 

[Vic]

This is just temporary technology. Wait until OBD-III, sold to your legislature as a "Clean Air Bill" or "Greenhouse Gas Reduction Bill" that does nothing of the sort, which should be headed your way sometime around the 2009 model year. It mandates an RFID tag unique to the vehicle which will enable the police, DMV, or smog to shutdown and disable the car as they please. The purpose of this is not necessarily to aid in traffic enforcement, licensing, or even smog control, but to charge drivers a toll for every mile they drive. You will get on the bus.

 

[sindows]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Dude, you know it goes down like that , even where you are "serving and protecting". The story is the same coast to coast, the only exception is the degree to which it is cultivated.

You seem to think that this stuff is institutionalized. I would argue that those who buckle to political pressure have their own political goals in mind and are completely self-serving. In other words, it's not the system--it's the individual.

Am I an idiot or are these two viewpoints the exact same thing only worded differently(or maybe is it because I'm assuming some things)?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Thankfully, I have tinted plate covers to obscure my expired plates ... to a degree. The legit plates are under the front seat.

That just means you can be stopped for obstructed plates.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Vic
This is just temporary technology. Wait until OBD-III, sold to your legislature as a "Clean Air Bill" or "Greenhouse Gas Reduction Bill" that does nothing of the sort, which should be headed your way sometime around the 2009 model year. It mandates an RFID tag unique to the vehicle which will enable the police, DMV, or smog to shutdown and disable the car as they please. The purpose of this is not necessarily to aid in traffic enforcement, licensing, or even smog control, but to charge drivers a toll for every mile they drive. You will get on the bus.

obd-III has been sold and rejected many years....you should mention that.

It's GPS in a vehicle....if you are speeding it slows you down, etc.

I sad fact is it required non-complying vehicles to be decomissioned. :roll:

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Vic
This is just temporary technology. Wait until OBD-III, sold to your legislature as a "Clean Air Bill" or "Greenhouse Gas Reduction Bill" that does nothing of the sort, which should be headed your way sometime around the 2009 model year. It mandates an RFID tag unique to the vehicle which will enable the police, DMV, or smog to shutdown and disable the car as they please. The purpose of this is not necessarily to aid in traffic enforcement, licensing, or even smog control, but to charge drivers a toll for every mile they drive. You will get on the bus.

obd-III has been sold and rejected many years....you should mention that.

It's GPS in a vehicle....if you are speeding it slows you down, etc.

I sad fact is it required non-complying vehicles to be decomissioned. :roll:

A watered-down version is now law in several states, including CA, OR, and WA. Implementation to begin in the 2009 model year, as I said.

It won't (at this time) slow you down if you are speeding, but it will enable the police to shut down your vehicle (if they deem necessary), and it will report Check Engine codes and/or illegal modifications to smog for possible disabling if necessary. OR and WA have already laid out plans to use it for automated road tax collection, and OR has been testing that GPS part of the system for several years now. And you can, in fact, obtain the smog-related system from Oregon DEQ right now, and in return they promise that you won't have to take your vehicle to have it tested every 2 years (like OR residents have to do now) unless you get a code (then you would have to bring it in right away).

It's not rejected, it's just being slowly phased in.