Libertarians

[Azndude51]

I don't know squat about political stuff. My new roommate for college is a Libertarian accordWing to his facebook page. hat exactly is a Libertarian, I mean what sides to they take on certain politcal issues? Are they more conservative or liberal? I'm just curious, though he probably is only a Libertarian because his parents are.

 

[bradruth]

Hahaha, libertarian. Good luck with that one. HAHAHAHAHAHA. :laugh: :evil:

 

[Feldenak]

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[K1052]

Librarians?

I thought they put away books and stuff.

 

[Warthog912]

typically they are described as being fiscally conservative, while being more liberal when it pertains to social issues.

Google is your friend

too lazy

 

[digitalsm]

Libertarians are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

They think abortion is okay, gay marriage is okay, and the death penalty should be done away with.

They do not believe in social or corporate welfare, large military budgets, or pork barrel spending.

They are very much pro gun and for protecting enviornment.

Other than that most are extremely greedy capitalists.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: digitalsm
Libertarians are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

They think abortion is okay, gay marriage is okay, and the death penalty should be done away with.

They do not believe in social or corporate welfare, large military budgets, or pork barrel spending.

They are very much pro gun and for protecting enviornment.

Other than that most are extremely greedy capitalists.

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[PingSpike]

They are socially very liberal and fiscally very conservative I guess? Minimal government and minimal government intervention in both personal liberty and business.

Most standard liberals and conservatives you see are hypocrites, who believe that no one should limit their freedoms but that they should be allowed to limit other people's.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: digitalsm
Libertarians are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

They think abortion is okay, gay marriage is okay, and the death penalty should be done away with.

They do not believe in social or corporate welfare, large military budgets, or pork barrel spending.

They are very much pro gun and for protecting enviornment.

Other than that most are extremely greedy capitalists.

i've heard that before, but how does that really fit into the previous ideas? especially the no corporate welfare and protecting the environment.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: digitalsm
Libertarians are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

They think abortion is okay, gay marriage is okay, and the death penalty should be done away with.

They do not believe in social or corporate welfare, large military budgets, or pork barrel spending.

They are very much pro gun and for protecting enviornment.

Other than that most are extremely greedy capitalists.

I know a whole bunch of those.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Most standard liberals and conservatives you see are hypocrites, who believe that no one should limit their freedoms but that they should be allowed to limit other people's.

That's not really how it works.

 

[zerocool1]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
They are socially very liberal and fiscally very conservative I guess? Minimal government and minimal government intervention in both personal liberty and business.

Most standard liberals and conservatives you see are hypocrites, who believe that no one should limit their freedoms but that they should be allowed to limit other people's.

ding ding ding, we got a winnar.
They're also very big on protecting constitutional rights, you said that indirectly. When I read the last 2600, it seems a lot of the writers and people that wrote in are libertarians. Just an observation.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Most standard liberals and conservatives you see are hypocrites, who believe that no one should limit their freedoms but that they should be allowed to limit other people's.

That's not really how it works.

Thats my opinion of pretty much everyone in P&N.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Our philosophy is "You have the right to do whatever the fvck you want, just as long as it doesn't intrude upon the rights of anyone else."

Pretty common-sense philosophy, if you ask me.

 

[ElFenix]

a libertarian is actually a liberal, but because the democrats (more accurately described as authoritarian leftists, because their ideology is generally leftist and they trust that government authority is a justifiable means to that end) have co-opted the term 'liberal' to refer to themselves and anyone more leftist than themselves, true liberals have had to come up with something else. liberal is the ideology of the bourgeoisie in revolutionary france and in the american revolution. it basically is someone for little government interference in either personal or business spheres. government should merely be a transparent framework/infrastructure for social interaction. for the liberal, taxes are slavery, and should only go to provide for necessary government functions, such as national defense, police, and a court system to resolve differences.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: digitalsm
Libertarians are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

They think abortion is okay, gay marriage is okay, and the death penalty should be done away with.

They do not believe in social or corporate welfare, large military budgets, or pork barrel spending.

They are very much pro gun and for protecting enviornment.

Other than that most are extremely greedy capitalists.

i've heard that before, but how does that really fit into the previous ideas? especially the no corporate welfare and protecting the environment.

corporate welfare is a distortion of the free market. libertarians/real liberals trust in the free market over government.

it's not really 'protecting the environment,' its more allowing people to do with their own land as they please and compensating others for the injury they cause to others and others' land. pollution is an injury to another's land and others. so, if someone is polluting, they have to internalize the costs of such polluting by paying up. this protects the environment because it makes the people polluting deal with the costs of the pollution, rather than spreading it out and enjoying a windfall at others' expense.

 

[HBalzer]

What they say they stand for and what they really stand for are probably completely different things anyway.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

free market and personal freedoms

 

[Triumph]

They make sure all the books are in the right places. And they make sure you haven't drawn dirty pictures in your books when you return them.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Libertarians don't parrot party lines and talking points so they are less unified than the extermists of the Republicans and Democrats.

I agree with many of digitalsm's points but I have no problem with the death penalty and don't agree with completely unchecked capitalism.

Or maybe I'm just an "independent" rather than a true libertarian.

 

[Triumph]

This is a very good book that explains the history of all of the famous political ideologies. I found it to be fairly unbiased, as it does not try to claim any one ideology as being superior to another. Very easy to read as well. I don't agree with some of the reviews, as I consider myself to be more Libertarian than anything, and I don't like the "political" left wing very much, so I don't know where they get the idea that this book is biased.

 

[Nitemare]

Me....


Afraid yet?

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Me....


Afraid yet?

So libertarians are assholes?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
a libertarian is actually a liberal, but because the democrats (more accurately described as authoritarian leftists, because their ideology is generally leftist and they trust that government authority is a justifiable means to that end) have co-opted the term 'liberal' to refer to themselves and anyone more leftist than themselves, true liberals have had to come up with something else. liberal is the ideology of the bourgeoisie in revolutionary france and in the american revolution. it basically is someone for little government interference in either personal or business spheres. government should merely be a transparent framework/infrastructure for social interaction. for the liberal, taxes are slavery, and should only go to provide for necessary government functions, such as national defense, police, and a court system to resolve differences.

This is, IMO, the best answer yet.

<---liberterian.

both the major parties are statists.

 

[Lasthitlarry]

It's easy for everyone to have labels for everything isn't it?

Is there no such thing as a Democrat against abortion?

Parties are dumb, I just choose my own thoughts and I think a lot of them coincide with Libertarianism, but damn, i hate labels.

IMHO