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Fear No Evil

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Incandescent light bulbs are being phased out starting in 2012, and completely banned by 2014. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59298

I have serious doubts this is going to happen. They can't make a CFL that can dim as well as an incandescent yet.. or one that doesn't burn out when turned on an off constantly like a motion detector light.. or one that gets bright quickly in cold weather...
 

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I have serious doubts this is going to happen. They can't make a CFL that can dim as well as an incandescent yet.. or one that doesn't burn out when turned on an off constantly like a motion detector light.. or one that gets bright quickly in cold weather...
Watch them.
 

umbrella39

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May I help you understand something?

How's that hand up your ass feel? Go away, again loser.

EDIT: too late ya got banned, see ya when you come back with your next cool new sock puppet account. Hopefully you slip and they figure out who you really post as here and how many more sock puppet accounts you really have waiting to be banned.
 
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JeepinEd

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Trying to characterize a political viewpoint by reference to its most fringe elements, let alone a television commerical intended to sell a product with use of humor, is a tad ridiculous.

If people already think an energy bill will result in things depicted in that commercial, then I can see that we are going to get another series of "death panel" fearmongering when the debate starts.

- wolf

Have you seen some of the laws that California has tried to pass?
CARB recently tried to pass a law that would fine and/or imprison you for driving with under inflated tires! They are putting companies out of business by forcing them to retrofit or change the diesel engines in their trucks, earth movers, etc. to more modern, cleaner engines. This last one stems from research documents that they know are inaccurate and created by a person who falsified his academic credentials. The list goes on and on.
 

Lanyap

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Incandescent light bulbs are being phased out starting in 2012, and completely banned by 2014. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59298

My local Walmart replaced the standard wattage incandescent light bulbs with the lower wattage versions. I could not find a standard 60W anywhere on their shelves because they replaced it with a 52W. When my house was built in 1996 the builder used lower wattage incandescents like the 52W but I could never find replacements at the local stores until recently.
 
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It's an interesting study of Liberal nature to watch them react to an obvious slam like this.

They don't just laugh it off, they get crazy and are out for blood!
 

sandorski

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Oh, someone must have been Banned again. Perhaps one day he/she will get the Hint? Apparently not yet.
 
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Now that it's acceptable to mock the Liberal agenda on a National broadcast, I'm wondering what the next target will be.

That Audi diesel is a cool ride. Anybody know if they got sales boost after the SB?
 

marincounty

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Have you seen some of the laws that California has tried to pass?
CARB recently tried to pass a law that would fine and/or imprison you for driving with under inflated tires! They are putting companies out of business by forcing them to retrofit or change the diesel engines in their trucks, earth movers, etc. to more modern, cleaner engines. This last one stems from research documents that they know are inaccurate and created by a person who falsified his academic credentials. The list goes on and on.

Diesel trucks have been unregulated for too long. There is substantial research indicating the damage caused by particulate emissions from diesels. Gasoline engines have been forced to clean up, and they have, notice unleaded gas, catalytic convertors and ever tightening emission standards. Auto drivers here have to pay for semi annual inspections.
Diesels do not have to do this. It's long overdue. The diesel truckers are also supposed to get financial help to clean up, an option that was not available to auto owners.
 

marincounty

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How ironic of a German company that built vehicles for the Nazis, to make an ad about the green police. And the checkpoints for drunk drivers were okayed by the right-wing packed US Supreme Court, hardly a liberal group.
Finally, the green car of the year is completely bogus, put out by some marketer that runs a web site. He has no scientic credentials.
 

JeepinEd

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Diesel trucks have been unregulated for too long. There is substantial research indicating the damage caused by particulate emissions from diesels. Gasoline engines have been forced to clean up, and they have, notice unleaded gas, catalytic convertors and ever tightening emission standards. Auto drivers here have to pay for semi annual inspections.
Diesels do not have to do this. It's long overdue. The diesel truckers are also supposed to get financial help to clean up, an option that was not available to auto owners.

Rather than force companies out of business, would it not make more sense to simply require all NEW vehicles to meet these standards?

Oh and here is an interesting link: http://www.heartland.org/policybot/...c_Protests_Passes_New_Diesel_Regulations.html

Edit: and then we wonder why companies are fleeing California....
 

marincounty

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Rather than force companies out of business, would it not make more sense to simply require all NEW vehicles to meet these standards?

Oh and here is an interesting link: http://www.heartland.org/policybot/...c_Protests_Passes_New_Diesel_Regulations.html

Edit: and then we wonder why companies are fleeing California....

Sorry to attack the messenger, but your link is garbage. The Heartland institute is a free-market think tank funded by big tobacco and big oil. Conveniently "While Heartland once disclosed its major supporters, it now refuses to publicly disclose who its corporate and foundation funders are."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

They have lots of ideas, most of them horrible and based on junk science.
In January 1993, PM executive Craig L. Fuller reported that Heartland was one of the "public policy organizations" being considered to sponsor a "conference on the impact of federal mandates/EPA regulations," as part of PM's strategic response to the EPA's decision that secondhand smoke should be classified as a proven lung carcinogen.[17]
In an April 1993 report, Marden noted that he was "developing strategy and tactics" to defeat legislation in California aimed at restricting smoking in public places.

Notwithstanding this long and intimate partnership with the tobacco industry, Heartland president Joe Bast bridled in February 2005 when writer Glenn Fleishman characterized the institute as a "sock puppet of industry" and criticized its role as both a tobacco mouthpiece and an opponent of municipal wi-fi initiatives.

Disputing global warming-The Heartland Institute's Environmental "expert," James Taylor, is a lawyer based in Florida. Despite presenting a veneer of scientific expertise in their Environmental advocacy, the Heartland lacks any scientists trained to understand climate issues
Water policy-In a research and commentary report released in March of 2007, the Heartland Institute criticized the compact, claiming water should be regulated through the market rather than through the government. [37] In this report, Heartland, as is typical of a free market think tank, contends that water is a commodity just like other resources, and should thus be regulated through market mechanisms. The report cites Terry Anderson, Director of the Property and Environment Research Center, arguing that "water rights should be allocated and traded in the marketplace, even if that means shipping water to Asia at the right price. It's no different than shipping out cars or iron ore." [37]

As for Dr. James Enstrom of UCLA , Enstrom is a controversial figure who has accepted funding from the Philip Morris tobacco company and the Center for Indoor Air Research (a tobacco industry front group), and subsequently published research that contradicted scientific consensus about the health effects of secondhand tobacco smoke, also known as environmental tobacco smoke, or ETS. [1
The court's Final Opinion contains a detailed timeline (starting in Section 5, paragraph #3781, on Page 1380) describing communication between Philip Morris and Enstrom to produce the 2003 BMJ study, and describes how the American Cancer Society had repeatedly warned Enstrom that using its CPS-I data in the manner he was using it would lead to unreliable results. The court's Final Opinion cites the 2003 Enstrom/Kabat study as a significant part of the companies' conspiratorial enterprise against the American public. [9]

On June 12, 2006, the Integrity in Science Project (which investigates and publicizes conflicts of interest and other potentially destructive influences of industry-sponsored science), on its web site published an electronic newsletter, Integrity in Science Watch, which included an article about Enstrom titled Tobacco Scientist Moves on to Particular Matter. The article said "The Electrical Power Research Institute hired James E. Enstrom of the University of California at Los Angeles to analyze 30 years of air pollution data. His recently published analysis, which showed PM [particulate matter] had no effect on mortality after the initial ten years of the study, is now being used by industry trade groups...in arguing against a tighter PM standard. Enstrom's study, published in Inhalation Technology, was subsequently questioned in the same journal by Bert Brunekreef, a highly-regarded professor of environmental health at Utrecht University in the Netherlands." [10] The Integrity in Science Project is a project of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.
 

umbrella39

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It's an interesting study of Liberal nature to watch them react to an obvious slam like this.

They don't just laugh it off, they get crazy and are out for blood!

Seriously child, grow the fuck up and get out of here for the 10th time now? What a sad, pathetic commentary you are of the modern day GOP.
 

JeepinEd

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Sorry to attack the messenger, but your link is garbage. The Heartland institute is a free-market think tank funded by big tobacco and big oil. Conveniently "While Heartland once disclosed its major supporters, it now refuses to publicly disclose who its corporate and foundation funders are."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

Irrelevant information

So how does attacking the messenger negate the fact that CARB is putting companies out of business by issuing mandates based on a flawed research study, headed by someone with falsified credentials and peer reviewed by it's own writers? You do realize that CARB has admitted that the head of these research papers lied and has removed him from his position, although they still stick to his findings.
 

ebaycj

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It would have been funny if instead of a weak prone to breakdown turbo diesel german car at the end, a gas guzzling SUV ran through the checkpoint and a quote saying something like "don't let fascism stop you"

How is Audi making a fuel efficient car fascism?