Liberals versus Conservatives

[Orsorum]

Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

 

[Genesys]

no, but i have noticed that liberals never can answer a direct question. they always seek to avoid answering the question, or they seek to word their response in such a way that it does not accurately represent their view. in a sense they seek to make themselves seem less liberal than they really are.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Genesys
no, but i have noticed that liberals never can answer a direct question. they always seek to avoid answering the question, or they seek to word their response in such a way that it does not accurately represent their view. in a sense they seek to make themselves seem less liberal than they really are.

Maybe its because you confuse liberals with moderates so much? FYI, people who don't worship the ground Bush walks on aren't necessarily liberals.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Genesys
no, but i have noticed that liberals never can answer a direct question. they always seek to avoid answering the question, or they seek to word their response in such a way that it does not accurately represent their view. in a sense they seek to make themselves seem less liberal than they really are.

See, that's the thing. I've met very few liberals who are really "liberal". Most of them are moderates, or slightly leftist. I have met some far-lefters, and some far-righters, but nowhere near enough to be able to make a statement like that.

Far-lefters irritate me just as much as extreme far-righters; the NAACP seems to do its share of damage to any progress in civil rights, so as to transform what was once a legitimate movement into the laughingstock of the majority of Americans; fools like Falwell and Roberson seem to be just as ready to capitalize on any disaster that befalls the American people.

And I live on a university campus!

 

[gsaldivar]

Ever notice how some people love political stereotyping?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Ever notice how some people love political stereotyping?

:beer: someone caught on to the joke!

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

Show me where someone on this board has called someone a typical conservative, NOT in response to a similar comment against liberals, and I'll show you five on the other side.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Genesys
no, but i have noticed that liberals never can answer a direct question. they always seek to avoid answering the question, or they seek to word their response in such a way that it does not accurately represent their view. in a sense they seek to make themselves seem less liberal than they really are.

See, that's the thing. I've met very few liberals who are really "liberal". Most of them are moderates, or slightly leftist. I have met some far-lefters, and some far-righters, but nowhere near enough to be able to make a statement like that.

Far-lefters irritate me just as much as extreme far-righters; the NAACP seems to do its share of damage to any progress in civil rights, so as to transform what was once a legitimate movement into the laughingstock of the majority of Americans; fools like Falwell and Roberson seem to be just as ready to capitalize on any disaster that befalls the American people.

And I live on a university campus!

man, i wish i lived where you live then. everyone here [in N Texas] is either part of the religious right or part of the faaaaaaaaar left. they really want to turn this country more towords socialism and make the citizens dependant on the government for some function or another.

i like moderates, but damn, i just cannot stand the far left. the far right gets annoying with their religious bantering and bible beating, but at least i can put up with that.

 

[fwtong]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: Genesys
no, but i have noticed that liberals never can answer a direct question. they always seek to avoid answering the question, or they seek to word their response in such a way that it does not accurately represent their view. in a sense they seek to make themselves seem less liberal than they really are.

Maybe its because you confuse liberals with moderates so much? FYI, people who don't worship the ground Bush walks on aren't necessarily liberals.

Of coures they aren't. They're merely anti-American and their opinion isn't welcome here.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

I've heard tales from weary travelers that once upon a time, in a land far far away, conservatives stood for smaller goverment, fiscal responsibility and no nation building.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

I've heard tales from weary travelers that once upon a time, in a land far far away, conservatives stood for smaller goverment, fiscal responsibility and no nation building.

ya, ive heard that too, hopefully we can bring that type of thought back to the land called reality.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

I've heard tales from weary travelers that once upon a time, in a land far far away, conservatives stood for smaller goverment, fiscal responsibility and no nation building.

ya, ive heard that too, hopefully we can bring that type of thought back to the land called reality.

Well, you won't be doing that by reelecting Bush, I'll tell you that. Did you happen to see this thread? If real conservatives voted en masse for a democrat and voted out Bush, it would probably cause the repubs to re-evaluate their strategy and nominate a real conservative next time. Plus, from a conservative's viewpoint, how will (let's say) Kerry be any worse than Bush? What is he gonna do? Run a big deficit? Expand social programs and goverment? start a nation building project?

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

I've heard tales from weary travelers that once upon a time, in a land far far away, conservatives stood for smaller goverment, fiscal responsibility and no nation building.

ya, ive heard that too, hopefully we can bring that type of thought back to the land called reality.

Well, you won't be doing that by reelecting Bush, I'll tell you that. Did you happen to see this thread? If real conservatives voted en masse for a democrat and voted out Bush, it would probably cause the repubs to re-evaluate their strategy and nominate a real conservative next time. Plus, from a conservative's viewpoint, how will (let's say) Kerry be any worse than Bush? What is he gonna do? Run a big deficit? Expand social programs and goverment? start a nation building project?

yes, but i dont want to elect someone who is more liberal than the person currently in office. i dont want Kerry to start some idiotic new social programs, or cut defense spending, or raise taxes, or go and make the US look like some pussyfied nation in front of the world by going and groveling at the feet of the UN. I also dont want somone who is going to pander to the far left activist groups [the environmentalists, the gay groups, the anti gun lobbyists, the abortion fanatics, and so on].

so, be it that it may that Bush isnt really the conservative that he thinks he is [or wishes he might be], he is still more conservative than any democrat trying to oust him.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Odd, I thought it could be phrased like this:

Conservative: "It's Clinton's fault!"
Liberal: "It's Bush's fault!"
Other: "Screw 'em both, join the (insert random political affiliation here) party!"

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Ever notice, in a debate, how conservatives stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most liberals generalize about conservative conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" conservative?

-Fixed for you.

No, I havent seen much of this, but then there are so few conservatives these days, just many who claim they are. Once upon a time conservatives were not so much worried about their wallet, or in a hurry to launch a first strike. Now it's about how much they can get off their taxes, and how much ass they can kick. Too bad.

I've heard tales from weary travelers that once upon a time, in a land far far away, conservatives stood for smaller goverment, fiscal responsibility and no nation building.

ya, ive heard that too, hopefully we can bring that type of thought back to the land called reality.

Well, you won't be doing that by reelecting Bush, I'll tell you that. Did you happen to see this thread? If real conservatives voted en masse for a democrat and voted out Bush, it would probably cause the repubs to re-evaluate their strategy and nominate a real conservative next time. Plus, from a conservative's viewpoint, how will (let's say) Kerry be any worse than Bush? What is he gonna do? Run a big deficit? Expand social programs and goverment? start a nation building project?

yes, but i dont want to elect someone who is more liberal than the person currently in office. i dont want Kerry to start some idiotic new social programs, or cut defense spending, or raise taxes, or go and make the US look like some pussyfied nation in front of the world by going and groveling at the feet of the UN. I also dont want somone who is going to pander to the far left activist groups [the environmentalists, the gay groups, the anti gun lobbyists, the abortion fanatics, and so on].

so, be it that it may that Bush isnt really the conservative that he thinks he is [or wishes he might be], he is still more conservative than any democrat trying to oust him.

As long as you remain at the primitive state of mental developement demanding what you wand and never develope the intellectual capacity to see that what you want is nothing more than a pile of cabbage that's been beaten into your head by conditioning, you will live in a mental prison cell from hell. "I don't want to elect somebody who will go beyond stone tools" is what your are really saying. You've checked in to Hotel California, and you can never leave.

 

[heartsurgeon]

Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Typical Liberal tactic....state some b.s. as "fact", and then proceed to discuss the merits of it. No references, on links, just smug self-righteous blather.

 

[Ferocious]

Conservatives love to deceive and bash.

Hence the popularity of conservative talk radio and tv shows.

Very entertaining.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Ever notice, in a debate, how liberals stick to issues, and debate the merits thereof, while most conservatives generalize about liberal conspiracies and how someone is a "typical" liberal?

Typical Liberal tactic....state some b.s. as "fact", and then proceed to discuss the merits of it. No references, on links, just smug self-righteous blather.

The same can be said about someone who is far leaning to the right.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as you remain at the primitive state of mental developement demanding what you wand and never develope the intellectual capacity to see that what you want is nothing more than a pile of cabbage that's been beaten into your head by conditioning, you will live in a mental prison cell from hell. "I don't want to elect somebody who will go beyond stone tools" is what your are really saying. You've checked in to Hotel California, and you can never leave.

And the benefit from switching to wood tools from stone tools is?

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as you remain at the primitive state of mental developement demanding what you wand and never develope the intellectual capacity to see that what you want is nothing more than a pile of cabbage that's been beaten into your head by conditioning, you will live in a mental prison cell from hell. "I don't want to elect somebody who will go beyond stone tools" is what your are really saying. You've checked in to Hotel California, and you can never leave.

And the benefit from switching to wood tools from stone tools is?

CkG

That's exactly the argument that was made by the original Cad Man.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as you remain at the primitive state of mental developement demanding what you wand and never develope the intellectual capacity to see that what you want is nothing more than a pile of cabbage that's been beaten into your head by conditioning, you will live in a mental prison cell from hell. "I don't want to elect somebody who will go beyond stone tools" is what your are really saying. You've checked in to Hotel California, and you can never leave.

And the benefit from switching to wood tools from stone tools is?

CkG

That's exactly the argument that was made by the original Cad Man.

But didn't they already migrate from sticks to stone tools? Why go backwards? If the option was bronze or other "metal" then that's great - but going backwards to just sticks is counter productive

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as you remain at the primitive state of mental developement demanding what you wand and never develope the intellectual capacity to see that what you want is nothing more than a pile of cabbage that's been beaten into your head by conditioning, you will live in a mental prison cell from hell. "I don't want to elect somebody who will go beyond stone tools" is what your are really saying. You've checked in to Hotel California, and you can never leave.

And the benefit from switching to wood tools from stone tools is?

CkG

That's exactly the argument that was made by the original Cad Man.

But didn't they already migrate from sticks to stone tools? Why go backwards? If the option was bronze or other "metal" then that's great - but going backwards to just sticks is counter productive

CkG

Hind sight is always 20 20. We are discussing how what conservatives saw things then compares to how they see things now. "All progressive change appears retrograde." Conservatives are more than successive waves of kicking and screaming Lame 0s brought into the future by liberals.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Liberals love to deceive and bash.

Hence the popularity of Al Franken and Micheal Moore.

Very entertaining.

fixed