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Liberals attacking america again! This time they use native americans to attack columbus day!

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Koba1t

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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3806

I'll just cut out the relevant parts of this article:

Recently, a mob of Native, Hispanic, and black students at Cornell University held an anti-Columbus Day rally at which protesters blamed white people for everything from systematic murder to New Coke. An angry black student stood at the center of the rally holding a defaced American flag.

In point of fact, the Europeans who discovered America brought advanced civilization to a savage, vicious, animalistic New World. The Natives who inhabited the Americas were brutal thugs waging constant wars and engaging in widespread scalping. Their economies were primitive with little incentive for technological innovation. A three-course meal consisted of maize, tree bark, and human flesh. There were no buildings, no architecture, no offices (sorry Professor Barr ? no office hours or symposia for you!).

Did Europeans kill Natives? You bet. Did Natives kill Europeans? You bet. Wars were fought because the Westerners wanted to civilize the New World. This endeavor required the taking of territory and the creation of Western governments predicated on individual liberty and the rule of law. Were treaties broken? Sure, by Europeans and Natives alike.

Was there genocide? No, of course not. There was no systematic effort by Columbus or anyone else to wipe a race of people off the face of the earth. The goal was to westernize the New World and many "merciless Indian savages" (as they were called in the Declaration of Independence) were killed in the horrors of war. Besides, more Natives were killed by diseases brought over inadvertently by Europeans than by European weapons.
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Sigh, America hating liberals, don't you know the europeans did the native americans a great favor by bringing introducing such ideas as civil liberties, justice, order, science, and christian principles? I could only imagine what america would be like if these brave and heroic explorers didn't show them the error of their ways.
 
I could only imagine what america would be like if these brave and heroic explorers didn't show them the error of their ways.
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There are always a feww idiots like like their are always a few idiots who belong to the Christian Coalition. Both groups are on the lunatic fringe and usually are best ignored.
 
You have to be kidding me.

If you believe that then you need to go back to school and take an American History class.
 
I always enjoy listening to these people, for the pure idiocy and futility of their logic.

If it weren't for that brutal process, white people'd still be living in hovels in Europe. That angry young African-American man would still be in Africa. This melting pot of diversity, founded on treachery and honor, would never have existed to give us all the freedoms we so blatantly abuse and mock today.

Just my two cents.
 
In point of fact, the Europeans who discovered America brought advanced civilization to a savage, vicious, animalistic New World. The Natives who inhabited the Americas were brutal thugs waging constant wars and engaging in widespread scalping. Their economies were primitive with little incentive for technological innovation. A three-course meal consisted of maize, tree bark, and human flesh.
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hahahaa, you seriously beleive that? This thread broke my sarcasm meter. I can't tell what anyone actaully beleives in here....
 
Let me get this straight, let me see if I understand this correctly.

These guys are standing out there protesting about wars that happened between the Europeans settling here and the Natives that were already here? The hate the fact that people got killed? Who doesn't? To what end? To spread more hate to what ... start another war over the same topic? That which you hated so much took place then? Want it to happen again?

Perhaps if everyone tried to get along instead of cause problems where there are none the killing you hate so much wouldn't happen as often.

Yeah people got killed on both sides, there was hate and animosity on both sides. But at some point you gotta let it go and say hey, that which happened so long ago isn't my battle. My ancestors fought and died bravely and that is that. No need to continue the hate for goodness sake, wtf you gonna get outta that?

Find something better to do please.

Feel free to chime in case you disagree, as I know ATOT folks won't hesitate to do so, one of the things that make this forum great. (Well when it remains a civilized discussion anyway)

 
Originally posted by: Zakath15
I always enjoy listening to these people, for the pure idiocy and futility of their logic.

If it weren't for that brutal process, white people'd still be living in hovels in Europe. That angry young African-American man would still be in Africa. This melting pot of diversity, founded on treachery and honor, would never have existed to give us all the freedoms we so blatantly abuse and mock today.

Just my two cents.
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Are you suggesting that without the discovery of america, europeans would not have progressed a bit from 1492 til now? Surely you're not dumb enough to suggest that!

As for the article, while the author may have a valid point to make, he comes off as a dumb, ignorant and way too self-righteous (at least as far as I'm concerned).
No buildings and no architecture?
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You're one sick motherfvcker!

The error of their ways? You've got to be kidding me!

So you justify the killing of hundreds of thousands of Native Americans because "your way" is "better"?

People like you need to be taken off the face of the Earth. You're scum.
 
Koba1t is obviously a straw man. He's posting as a caricature of a right winger in hopes of discrediting them. He is, in short, a troll.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
You're one sick motherfvcker!

The error of their ways? You've got to be kidding me!

So you justify the killing of hundreds of thousands of Native Americans because "your way" is "better"?

People like you need to be taken off the face of the Earth. You're scum.
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So, calling him scum and saying he should be "taken off the face of the Earth" is better how?
 
Originally posted by: Maetryx
Koba1t is obviously a straw man. He's posting as a caricature of a right winger in hopes of discrediting them. He is, in short, a troll.
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You are probably right though there are those just like him out there.
 
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Eli
You're one sick motherfvcker!

The error of their ways? You've got to be kidding me!

So you justify the killing of hundreds of thousands of Native Americans because "your way" is "better"?

People like you need to be taken off the face of the Earth. You're scum.
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So, calling him scum and saying he should be "taken off the face of the Earth" is better how?
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Geez... It's not like I would really wish that upon anybody.. I was just being... energetic. 😛

I just have a hard time believing anybody could actually think like that.. It's mind blowing, lol.
 
Sigh, America hating liberals, don't you know the europeans did the native americans a great favor by bringing introducing such ideas as civil liberties, justice, order, science, and christian principles? I could only imagine what america would be like if these brave and heroic explorers didn't show them the error of their ways.
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Ah, I see that along with the discredited "Noble Savage" view, the discredited "White Man's Burden" view is still breathing.
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While I vehemently disagree with the view of the protestors, I think that the article is worse than the protest because while it had the potential for presenting the image rationally, but instead they chose to be just as irrational as the protestors. The truth, as usual, is between the extremes. Columbus was not a saint, far from it. But neither were the Native American tribes the little utopias that revisionist historians would like us to believe they were. Personally, I'm pretty damn happy to live in a world with things like antibiotics and air-conditioning and electricity.

As far as us doing the Native Americans a favor though, I kind of doubt it. The American Indian tribes had the concepts of justice and order and liberties, they also had their own kind of science which we have no way of knowing how it would have advanced. Finally, what the hell do "christian principles" have to do with anything? I'm far from being anti-christianity, but I am certainly against the view that "christianity is the only way to morality", which is what you seem to be implying. Millions upon millions of Buddhists manage to live perfectly moral lives without "christian principles", as do millions and millions of Hindus and Moslims.

In summation, 2 things:
First: Neither side is right (in fact, both sides are very wrong).
Second: You, sir, are exactly the reason I have been distancing myself from the Republican party. It's people like you who are ensuring the growth of the Libertarian Party.

ZV

EDIT: Methinks I may have been Skoorbed...
 
Well well well, look at all these Godless liberals coming out of the woodwork. What's the matter, after years of being brainwashed by the liberal media elite, you can't stand it when a respected conservative publication like front page magazine exposes your liberal idealogies as blatant lies?
 
Originally posted by: Koba1t
Well well well, look at all these Godless liberals coming out of the woodwork. What's the matter, after years of being brainwashed by the liberal media elite, you can't stand it when a respected conservative publication like front page magazine exposes your liberal idealogies as blatant lies?
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You guys have broadband at your compound yet?

 
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