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Liberal sites drop gun control topic when shooter id was announced

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Texashiker said:
Mother jones last night, just about every article on the homepage carousal was about gun control. This morning, there is not a single article in the carousal about gun control.

Huffpost, not even close to their typical antigun hysteria.

salon.com, not going anywhere near gun control topic.

Last night twitter was on fire with accusations of how white people can not be trusted with guns and how we need gun control. As soon as the shooters were id'ed as middle eastern things got real quiet.

Sure is funny how liberals are quick to jump on the gun control topic but will not touch home grown terrorism.
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Huh, why is gun control on the Mother Jones home page right now and every other website I look at.
 
Texashiker said:
Big difference between last night and this morning on liberal sites.
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So you claim, without evidence. In any case, the core premise of this thread is false, and the thread as a whole is pointless.

Let's assume what you said was true (which it isn't) - that liberal sites were initially calling for gun control measures after the SB shooting, but dialed back that position once it was clear the shooters were of middle eastern descent. So what? What would you take from that? What, exactly, is the point of this thread?
 
Texashiker said:
Consider what normal? Mass shootings?

In muslim nations the violence inflicted by the two shooters is normal.

This type of violence is not normal in western civilized nations.

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria,,,, this type of violence is normal.
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Yeah we're more of the rugged individualist shooter-type of country, our shooters prefer to work alone when terrorizing people. It looks like this shooting made number #355 in this long list of mass shootings so far this year. The standard for this list is at least four people being shot to be considered a mass shooting.

Think we'll break 500 mass shootings by the end of the year? I'm betting we do.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Are there any legitimate studies that indicate that stricter gun laws will reduce these type of incidents?
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It seems to me it's not really possible to create a scientifically valid study showing that because the gun restrictions that have actually been implemented (e.g., the AWB) have been so toothless. I will say that I am skeptical of whether the sorts of restrictions that could ever realistically be implemented would have much of an effect.

If, hypothetically, the government could simply round up all guns and we started from a clean slate in which there were no civilian gun ownership, or very restrictive civilian gun ownership (as happened in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre), I expect we would see a precipitous decline in crimes like this. Setting aside the question of whether such an action would be prudent (that is a matter of personal opinion), I don't believe that sort of action would ever be tolerated by the American people, though, nor do I think it could ever practicably be implemented, because there are so many millions of guns already in private hands.
 
I will henceforth refer to the Paris attacks simply as mass shootings until the lamestream media comes to their senses (hint: they won't) and refers to this attack appropriately.
 
alien42 said:
and what do you call the recent Planned Parenthood shootings?
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3 deaths occurred during that attack and therefore it cannot be categorized as a mass shooting. Therefore, I will refer to it exactly as you have typed it: "shootings" (without the mass attached).
 
Jhhnn said:
That's willful ignorance. Pretty much sums up your entire POV.
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Only problem is he's correct, you can consider it a pendantic point but it's certainly not "willful ignorance." Rifles in military service are categorized by ammunition size into battle rifles, assault rifles, or carbines. AK variants are assault rifles by definition.

For the U.S. analogue, the M14 was a battle rifle, the M16 series an assault rifle, and M4 a carbine.
 
It isnt even the guns that should be of primary concern to anyone. These people had explosives with remote detonators. How exactly is gun control going to stop that? The damage that could have been done by these bombs was potentially greater than the damage done by the guns. We're lucky the bombs didnt work as planned. I'm sure jihadis all across america are testing their designs right now. Boy I am sure glad we sacrificed so much liberty to have this massive spy state, because they will surely catch all these people buying radio controlled toy cars to reengineer as detonators.
 
cbrunny said:
What study? Why do you need a study? Just look at the objective historical narrative of countries that have strict gun control. That's infinitely more reliable than any study that you're suggesting.
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Yes, I would like so see studies on this issue if they're available. I don't trust truthiness unless it's all I've got to go on.
 
You guys need to stop worrying about definitions and calibers and focus on the issues.

Everybody who died at Virginia Tech was shot with a .22.
 
shortylickens said:
You guys need to stop worrying about definitions and calibers and focus on the issues.

Everybody who died at Virginia Tech was shot with a .22.
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Legally obtained BTW. Sorry to be blunt but more stringent gun control isn't going to happen and certainly not confiscation, so you're better off accepting there's going to be a certain amount of crazy that happens in an open society and deal with it. Hell, I don't like what the Westboro Baptist people say but still recognize that a free and open society and respecting our civil rights means I'm going to need to deal with people saying crazy shit sometimes.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
Except that they haven't. I took this screenshot from HuffPo just a moment ago (I scrolled down from the very top, which was nothing but San Bernardino coverage).

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Holy shit. I need to read more about how I can fake an orgasm.
 
glenn1 said:
Legally obtained BTW. Sorry to be blunt but more stringent gun control isn't going to happen and certainly not confiscation, so you're better off accepting there's going to be a certain amount of crazy that happens in an open society and deal with it. Hell, I don't like what the Westboro Baptist people say but still recognize that a free and open society and respecting our civil rights means I'm going to need to deal with people saying crazy shit sometimes.
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The Westboro Baptist Church doesn't kill people. Not anywhere near the same thing. Terrible analogy.
 
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