"Liberal Media" My ASS, Part II

[CocaCola5]

Liberal Media is dead, if not ten years ago already its dead now for sure. The rise of particularly investigative reporting by the media thru the 70's and 80's I think helped to make the media seem liberal since they attacked large conservative organizations ie tobacco, product liability, etc..

 

[EXman]

The election is over, been over, now get over it....

 

[BreakApart]

ImTyping, what color is the sky in your world? lol....

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Don't you just love vituperative diatribes?

 

[GasX]

Anger, there is much in you, yes?

 

[shifrbv]

ImTyping - Don't worry. You'll have your last laugh on these folks here when they discover in the next few years none of them have jobs, their 401Ks have been stolen by the likes of the Bush Cronies like the Ken Lays of Enron (which we will be seeing more of these types of things in the next few years), they're back in deficit spending with their tax reduction eliminated, and they will no longer have any safety net when they get older because social security will all but be done away with.

 

[Static911]

People are actually depending on social security?

Man, that plan is flawed ever since the beginning. It has the carryover effect...it will NEVER end unless one generation "gives up" their payments.

I actually had to do my midterm on this dumb and confounded problem. The problem started when they introduced SS and gave the old people their money, but did not collect from them.

I don't have any problems with Bush's plan, yet it won't help much. IF we continued on our previous ways, then, unless the government interjects more money (of course, its a zero-sum game, so what governemnt spends, it collects), then SS can be "balanced-out."

So until then, I frankly am not thinking of collect a dime from my SS.

static911

 

[TheKidd]

<< Gore's an idiot, just like the vast majority of his supporters.

I just thank God that G.W. is running the show now. I couldn't sleep at night if we had a Democrat in office right now.
>>


Like Bush or not, I just cannot understand how you can call Gore an idiot and praise Bush in the same sentence. Bush is not a smart guy, he may or may not be a good leader, but he depends on his advisors and relies on his personal charisma to lead.

 

[ElFenix]

i think bush is smart enough to realize he doesn't know much about things so he got good people to surround him. gore on the other hand probably would have thought he could do it all himself, and would have had a buncha yes-men around him. you have to admit that bush's foreign policy crew is one of the best ever.


as for social security, i worked through the equations, and with a pay as you go system like we have its impossible to continue paying up the same benefits with the same contribution as long as the interest rate is higher than the growth rate of the taxable base. a fully funded system would be better, but would have done nothing immediate for people back in the 30s (and would have put a huge drag on the economy), since its really nothing more than a government mandated savings account.

 

[Static911]

yep, it is nothing more than a government mandated saving fund, but *damn those old folks in the beginning!* They screwed up the equation and no government policy can shock it into place unless money begins to fall from the sky.

edit: unless the first young generation saved, then everything would work out nicely. What you put in, you get back.


static911

 

[BreakApart]

<< yep, it is nothing more than a government mandated saving fund, but *damn those old folks in the beginning!* They screwed up the equation and no government policy can shock it into place unless money begins to fall from the sky.

edit: unless the first young generation saved, then everything would work out nicely. What you put in, you get back.


static911 >>




You are correct, i would just add that SS is used for much more than just retirement... Disability payments, etc...
There are far more people hoping to get money from SS, then there are people working to put money into it.

 

[tcsenter]

Gore Concedes Debate Story False

Dave Boyer and Bill Sammon
The Washington Times

Vice President Al Gore yesterday conceded that a dramatic anecdote he told in Tuesday night's debate was not exactly true - and the accuracy of one or two others was questioned as well.

Mr. Gore - who said he traveled to Texas with FEMA Director James Lee Witt to inspect wildfire damage - acknowledged yesterday he did not.

"I was there in Texas. I think James Lee went to the same fires. I've made so many trips with James to these disaster sites. I got that part wrong," the vice president said on "Good Morning America." The Gore campaign spent much of yesterday putting out fires concerning other anecdotes, including one by Mr. Gore that a Florida school forced a female student to stand in an overcrowded classroom.

"Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students," the vice president said during the debate. "She is the 36th student in that class...They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand during class."

Sarasota High School Principal Daniel Kennedy, however, said that isn't true. The class was short a desk for just one day.

"That was probably one of the first days of the school when we were in the process of leveling classes. And, she did have an opportunity to use a lab stool," he said on radio station WFLA in Sarasota.

"We don't really have any students standing in class and we have more than enough desks for all of our students," said Kennedy..."We were refurbishing that classroom and in the back of that picture, if you look carefully, you can see probably about $100,000 worth of new lab equipment that was waiting to be unpacked, which is one of the reasons the room looked as crowded as it did..."

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Let's not forget grandma and her Winnebago, or the woman whose prescription medications cost more than a little doggie who takes the same medication! No, Gore didn't say he "invented" the internet, but he gave himself FAR more credit for "being a part" of the internet's existence than he possibly could claim. He suggested he had some major role in the innovation of the internet, but he didn't say he invented it. Gore is a braggart and an embellisher, which is not quite the same as outright lying.

 

[GasX]

He's a blowhard know-it-all. It's a shame really, because he is very well educated, well spoken and generally dedicated to serving his country.

 

[Zenmervolt]

<< ImTyping - Don't worry. You'll have your last laugh on these folks here when they discover in the next few years none of them have jobs, their 401Ks have been stolen by the likes of the Bush Cronies like the Ken Lays of Enron (which we will be seeing more of these types of things in the next few years), they're back in deficit spending with their tax reduction eliminated, and they will no longer have any safety net when they get older because social security will all but be done away with. >>



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha..ha...ha...OK, now that I'm through laughing (for the moment) I'll take a look at what you said. None of us will have jobs you say? Strange, last time there was an economic downturn and a Rebublican was in office (namely Reagan) the economy turned around and was booming for 12 years after he left office despite the best efforts of one William Jefferson Clinton to ruin the economy. Unfortunately, Clinton did succeed in halting the growth of the economy and also in making that halt coincide with his leaving office. When one looks at the facts, it becomes easy to see that the current economic downturn had started well before Bush came into office. About the tax cuts, people do not realise that thes cuts, on a percentage of income basis, are a far greater aid to the lower middle class than they are to the upper class, no matter how much people like to claim otherwise. Finally, as for social security, it was intended to end once the great depression was over, but people failed to realise that once you begin handing out unearned freebies, people do not like it when you stop and they have to earn a living again. I find it grossly patronizing that you feel that I will have need of a "safety net". I do not intend to fail so greatly that I have need of one. With halfway-intelligent financial planning any person should have no trouble providing for his own retirement without government handouts.

ZV

"Live for yourself, there's no-one else more worth living for. Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more." - RUSH