Liberal media bias...

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Napalm
Marty,

That liberal news media thing is a tired joke. When all the news organizations are owned by huge billion dollar enterprises that place business interests ahead of news, I find this liberal thing laughable. This is much like the fallacy that dem when in power love big government and big spending and republicans like the opposite. The facts point in exactly the opposite direction...

Anyhoo - knowing your history here, I am sure that you are going to present me with evidence to the contrary...

N

the owners may be big, but the reporters are still very bias, and if you cannot clearly see that dems love spending on social services whereas conservatives dont then you are more biased and blinded by it than you would put off.

Wasn't there a rumor being flaoted about Tom Browkaw being kerry's running mate?
But anyway - you are exactly right. Those of us on the right know FOX leans that way but those on the left still seem to think that their precious media doesn't lean left. If they can't be honest with themselves...do we believe anything else they say?

CkG

 

[Napalm]

Bozack,

Yeah sure - keep telling yourself that. While your at it, give this a read. It addresses your "reporters are lefties" argument quite nicely: Liberal News Media Bias - The Fallacy

And here is some more of the same: Collection of Liberal News Media Myth Links

Since I've posted the above critique of the Liberal bias in news, I'll leave it up to you to post the spending by administrations in the White House over the last 25years. I've got news for ya - it isn't going to support your theory...

N

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Napalm
Bozack,

Yeah sure - keep telling yourself that. While your at it, give this a read. It addresses your "reporters are lefties" argument quite nicely.

Liberal News Media Bias - The Fallacy

Since I've posted the above critique of the Liberal bias in news, I'll leave it up to you to post the spending by administrations in the White House over the last 25years. I've got news for ya - it isn't going to support your theory...

N

- still blind to the bias I see. Someday you guys will take the blinders off and realize that it does lean left. Ofcourse, with FOX dominating the ratings we might see one of the old 3 fall off the radar soon.
But anyway, are you seriously trying to say that CNN doesn't lean left? MSNBC? CBS? ....
Is it your contention that these news outlets don't lean left?

CkG

 

[Napalm]

CAD,

Yes - thats my contention. The major news networks all lean right. I have posted a ton of material that you may want to wade through if you want to challenge your preconceived notions. I am quite willing to do the same, but you have provided me with nothing but your opinions.

N

 

[ElFenix]

have you ever seen the media report the supreme court decision to halt the florida recounts as anything other than 5-4?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Napalm
CAD,

Yes - thats my contention. The major news networks all lean right. I have posted a ton of material that you may want to wade through if you want to challenge your preconceived notions. I am quite willing to do the same, but you have provided me with nothing but your opinions.

N

I've been over this all before. If someone refuses to try to see or even just acknowledge that a left bias exists in the media then it is worthless to even discuss this issue with them. You can try to find all the excuse columns you want but it doesn't make your arguement for you. But anyway - you have provided nothing except opinion also. So a couple people wrote something that claims the media doesn't lean left. and....? It's their opinion.

But like I've stated before - since FOX has come into play - things have moved towards the center which is good. FOX has made the other channels to take a look at their content and adjust things accordingly. So as of right now I guess the media overall is as close to being in the center than it ever has been. But for you or anyone to claim those stations didn't/don't lean left is absurd.

Here is an opinion on the opinions you presented - The battle over media bias in America

Care to open your eyes yet?

CkG

 

[DamnDirtyApe]

What I find interesting is that the Bush team apparently doesn't have a problem with the truthfulness of Kerry's statement, only that Kerry is being "too negative". Is this because they don't want to give his remarks credence by addressing them, or because they know that Kerry's words are the truth.

I always think a good thing to keep in mind in cases of potential character defamation is that it's only libel/slander if what is being said is actually untrue.

 

[Napalm]

I read your article - there was nothing in there to support the contention that the major networks who report news are left leaning. I think you and I should agree to disagree...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Napalm
I read your article - there was nothing in there to support the contention that the major networks who report news are left leaning. I think you and I should agree to disagree...

Yep - I already stated as much- "If someone refuses to try to see or even just acknowledge that a left bias exists in the media then it is worthless to even discuss this issue with them."

Have a nice day

CkG

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY


Here is an opinion on the opinions you presented - The battle over media bias in America

Care to open your eyes yet?

CkG

Yeah CAD, that oughta put an end to this debate. Seeking a righ-wing biased person's opinion on what side the media favors. Classic.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Napalm
I read your article - there was nothing in there to support the contention that the major networks who report news are left leaning. I think you and I should agree to disagree...

"If someone refuses to try to see or even just acknowledge that a right bias exists in the media then it is worthless to even discuss this issue with them."

Have a nice day

CkG

Fixed your quote

 

[chess9]

Is it even possible to "print" a photo of Kerry looking good?

I don't think so. He's uglier than a biker on Sunday morning.

-Robert

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: chess9
Is it even possible to "print" a photo of Kerry looking good?

I don't think so. He's uglier than a biker on Sunday morning.

-Robert

Haha so true!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Napalm
I read your article - there was nothing in there to support the contention that the major networks who report news are left leaning. I think you and I should agree to disagree...

"If someone refuses to try to see or even just acknowledge that a right bias exists in the media then it is worthless to even discuss this issue with them."

Have a nice day

CkG

Fixed your quote

I've already stated that FOX has right leaning bias TYVM. Now again -
"If someone refuses to try to see or even just acknowledge that a left bias exists in the media then it is worthless to even discuss this issue with them."

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY


Here is an opinion on the opinions you presented - The battle over media bias in America

Care to open your eyes yet?

CkG

Yeah CAD, that oughta put an end to this debate. Seeking a righ-wing biased person's opinion on what side the media favors. Classic.

As opposed to the left-wing biased person's opinion....classic

CkG

 

[DamnDirtyApe]

As a person who refers to myself as a Centrist I officially declare that FOX News is excessively right-wing and inflammatory, and all of the other major TV news outlets are neither left or right wing, they simply ensure that freedom of thought is restricted by heavily promoting candidates and ideas on both sides that perpetuate control of government by large corporations and their lobbyists.

Witness the media's marginalization and/or rediculing of people such as McCain or Dean, who might make great presidents, but are seen as 'anti-establishment' and therefore don't get the same positive media coverage as those in support of the political status quo such as Bush and Kerry.

 

[Sspidie99]

Originally posted by: bozack
The sole reason that Fox was created was to offer a conservative alternative to all of the other highly liberal/left biased news programs out there....

The head/owner of Fox was so tired of ABC, NBC, CBS and CNNs blatant liberal slant that he took it upon himself to make a conservative news program....

so yes, there is a right slant with fox whereas with all other stations the lean is heavily heavily left, you want bias? Katie Courick cried when Bush won, how more biased can one be?

I love it when people think that most of the networks out there are liberal. Trying telling that to someone who is actually liberal, I think you'll get a different story. The problem with these news broadcasts are that they have their own agenda and the companies that own them still have to deal with advertising money. Liberal, I believe not. Do you will really think that ABC, CBS, and NBC would risk their own butts when the ceo's of most coportations who buy advertising still tend to be the old conservative types. I really doubt it. There are plenty of stories out there that never televised, why because they are affraid of offending their advertising dollars. Money tends to lie in the hands of the right not the left. And as we all sadly know, it is money the drives both American morality and politics.

 

[Zephyr106]

I think alot of these clowns whining about liberal bias are so far right they don't know what moderate is anymore. They think extemist fanatacism is the American Way, and any objective report in the media, anything negative about a conservative, must be bias.

Zephyr

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY


Here is an opinion on the opinions you presented - The battle over media bias in America

Care to open your eyes yet?

CkG

Yeah CAD, that oughta put an end to this debate. Seeking a righ-wing biased person's opinion on what side the media favors. Classic.

As opposed to the left-wing biased person's opinion....classic

Hey, I'm not the one trying to claim the media is left-wing or right-wing. Such a broad generalization is dangerous, especially when trying to support that theory with a biased opinion.

CkG

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Napalm
To those who complain about liberal media bias at the "other" news networks, please post an equally blatant link in which Bush is portrayed looking stupid and Kerry is portrayed looking presidential on the same page. I very much doubt that you will find anything as ridiculous as Fox, but I'd love to be proven incorrect...

N

first off all your making wayyyyyy to big a deal over this picture. sure its not the greatest picture of kerry but your soooo stretching it to call this an example of bias. off of the top of my head i can think of several examples of liberal media bias

1) la times - almost every story. from gropping allegations against gov. shwartzeneggar to a reported bustamante 10pt lead over shwartzeneggar just a few weeks before the election. oh and how about of the 10 biggest newspapers in CA 9 supported a 'no' position on the recall - hardly representative of the ppl given almost 60% supported the recall. also i remember the front page of the la times when the republican majority passed their medicare bill recently. who'd they show on the front page you ask? dashle, kennedy, and sharpton and nobody else! when i saw this i couldnt help but laugh.

2) msnbc - what the la times is to newspapers msnbc is to the networks. heck i remember just two days ago watching 5 minuts of hardball (i think thats what the show is called) and in reference to a gop ad calling kerry a massachusetts elitist the host was arguing that gw bush is as much of an elitist as kerry, lol! and then theres that whole alliance with slate and it doesnt get any more left than slate. for example this article tries to claim bush has some kind of learning disablility, lol!

CAD,

Yes - thats my contention. The major news networks all lean right. I have posted a ton of material that you may want to wade through if you want to challenge your preconceived notions. I am quite willing to do the same, but you have provided me with nothing but your opinions.

N

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Napalm
LOL. Can FoxNews be for real? Check out the attached link and open up the photos of the two candidates. Fox uses a good photo of Bush saluting and they use a pic of Kerry with his mouth wide open and giving the old sieg heil salute.

Gotta love the liberal media and their blatant political bias...

Link

good photo of bush??? he is covering his face like he has something to hide!! what is he hiding from?! what is he up to?!

 

[josphII]

Witness the media's marginalization and/or rediculing of people such as McCain or Dean, who might make great presidents, but are seen as 'anti-establishment' and therefore don't get the same positive media coverage as those in support of the political status quo such as Bush and Kerry.

what??

dean was the liberal love child of the democratic party and the networks for the longest time. it wasnt untill the other candidates grouped together Survivor style and all bashed him that this began to change. and when has mccain ever been ridiculed? he is the exact opposite of 'anti-establishment.' i dont get why would you even mention these two in the same sentence. mccain = moderate, dean = leftist extremist.

 

[Rilescat]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
And you expect different from Fox?

You expect different from anyone? Show me a non-biased media outlet....please.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
have you ever seen the media report the supreme court decision to halt the florida recounts as anything other than 5-4?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: ElFenix
have you ever seen the media report the supreme court decision to halt the florida recounts as anything other than 5-4?

Good point. We all know the vote was 7-2 to stop the recounts.