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You have GOT to be kidding me!

In the absence of any real evidence he is dyslexic (and I would think the campaign would have revealed this), this whole thing is TOTALLY absurd, and the premise that reporting on Bush reflects "liberal hypocrisy" is a big joke. Until and unless it is revealed that Bush has dyslexia (which I firmly doubt), how is it cruel to report on his malapropisms?

I know several people who are dyslexic, including a number of lawyers, and they are quite articulate for the most part - certainly no worse than the norm. Ergo, this entire thread reflects "conservative hypocrisy," in that you are presuming that the President's halting public speech is due to dyslexia.
 

67gt500

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Almost every major media mogul in this country (Exception Ted Turner) is conservative. If you think CNN, CNBC, or FOX is "liberal" then you have not been watching much news in the last 10 years.

wow it's too bad that ted turner founded CNN ... and the three heads have been commonly placed as CNN-liberal CNBC-moderate FOX-conservative. But the television media is dwarfed by the newspapers in this country. Per reader base that is.

Calling GWB dyslexic is about as bad an insult you can give...to dyslexic people. Drink and drugs are what screwed him up, not any genetic miscue. Can you please point me to someone in the "liberal media" who has specifically said that GWB has dyslexia, and then made a joke about it?

You can't?

Then, STFU, liar.


First of all need anyone here list the brilliant authors or analysts who partook in a controversial lifestyle as a youth and were still able to maintain fluency when speaking in public.


This is very simply then from here on. We can expect liberals to make fun of people with speech disorders so long as they aren't branded a named disorder.

You either think or don't think that he has speaking/reading disabilities. If you don't think that he does then the arguments from the left are unfounded and childish. If you do think that he does then the liberal bandwagon is hypocritical. It's your bed, you can make it if you wish. And STFU I will not.

 

67gt500

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how is it cruel to report on his malapropisms?

it is HYPOCRITICAL to MAKE FUN OF his malapropisms while claiming to be a liberal.

I didn't say it was cruel and I didn't say it was inappropriate to report. I said it was HYPOCRITICAL to MAKE FUN OF.
 

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Oh, the pot calling the kettle black here...you "accuse" people of not answering your questions, but refuse to answer ones thrown your way:



<< First of all need anyone here list the brilliant authors or analysts who partook in a controversial lifestyle as a youth and were still able to maintain fluency when speaking in public. >>



That in no way answers my question. You have yet to name one specific incident where someone in the &quot;liberal media&quot; said that GWB was dyslexic, then made fun of his dyslexia.

That is because you cannot do it.

And do not ask people no-win questions that amount to &quot;When did you stop beating your wife.&quot;



<< You either think or don't think that he has speaking/reading disabilities. If you don't think that he does then the arguments from the left are unfounded and childish. If you do think that he does then the liberal bandwagon is hypocritical. >>



We are smarter than that.

We have a word here for persons who make generalizations without being able to back them up. I will put the word in bold, so you will understand it:

TROLL!
 

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<< it is HYPOCRITICAL to MAKE FUN OF his malapropisms while claiming to be a liberal. >>

Is it okay then for Conservatives to make fun of people's weaknesses? Wow. Cool political philosophy.

rmeijer,
Would you argue your point, as one person only?

AnandTech Moderator
 

WordSmith2000

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I am sure that 67gt500 was on the phone to Rush Limbaugh the first time he made comments about Chelsea Clinton's looks.

Oh, he wasn't?

If you want to know what 67gt500 looks like, check out the dictionary. Under the word &quot;hypocritical.&quot;
 

67gt500

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Is it okay then for Conservatives to make fun of people's weaknesses? Wow. Cool political philosophy.

and I said that where?
 

67gt500

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Worsmith if ted turner didn't found CNN which were you claiming he was affiliated to?

That in no way answers my question. You have yet to name one specific incident where someone in the &quot;liberal media&quot; said that GWB was dyslexic, then made fun of his dyslexia.

I don't have to because I never said that someone said &quot;GWB is dyslexic and I laugh at that.&quot; What I said was that his inabilities which have been seen time and time again on television are mocked by the liberal press.


and I was waiting for another stfu from you. where is it?
 

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Monday, June 18, 2001 5:57 PM (NEW!)



I am sure that 67gt500 was on the phone to Rush Limbaugh the first time he made comments about Chelsea Clinton's looks.

Oh, he wasn't?

If you want to know what 67gt500 looks like, check out the dictionary. Under the word &quot;hypocritical.&quot;




that's wonderful liberal spin and perhaps I can dedicate the next thread to conservative media hypocrisy but as you can see in the title we aren't discussing rush limbaugh.

I will be curious to see if you are as vocal when my conservative hypocrisy thread is submitted. The odds are you will not be. And that's fine. Step one, jump two, spin three, danced four.
 

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yet when it comes to President Bush's dyslexia

guess your making false assumptions then. or bush is a liar. funny that you would fall back on &quot;learning disabilities&quot; in bushes defense. Thats so stereotypically liberal. blame your inability to do something on a &quot;learning disability&quot;. he's had 40+ years(discounting early childhood) to get help and fix his very public problem. Why doesn't he? probably doesn't care, thinks its cute, or thinks its better to come off as a moron to lower expectations to make his job easier.
 

67gt500

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guess your making false assumptions then. or bush is a liar.

The difference as I see it between you and the actual liberal thinkers on this board is that they offer substance and you don't.

I take them seriously which is why I posed the statement at the beginning of this thread with the hope that I was disproven. My assumptions are not false, they are founded. What that makes bush is absolutely irrelevant.
 

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funny that you would fall back on &quot;learning disabilities&quot; in bushes defense. Thats so stereotypically liberal. blame your inability to do something on a &quot;learning disability&quot;. he's had 40+ years(discounting early childhood) to get help and fix his very public problem.

who is it that you are quoting with &quot;learning disabilities&quot;? Because I never said it and if I did I certainly didn't want to.

whether he has a permanent disorder or something else wrong I see it absolutely hypocritical for someone claiming to be for the victims of less fortunate circumstances while making fun of them.

If this isn't hypocrisy then I will admit that I am wrong and accept that the liberal media is not hypocritical. If it is hypocrisy then perhaps someone would like to explain how it is a type of hypocrisy which is considered to be acceptable.

This really did boil down to a yes or no, they are or they aren't with a brief explanation. Is that too much to ask from some of you? just give me a yes or a no with a brief explanation as to how you concluded that.
 

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they argue proper terminology when referring to the 'handicapped' or the 'mentally retarded' which ties into PC, they argue for just about every victim of a less fortunate circumstance which cannot be helped... yet when it comes to President Bush's dyslexia and speech disabilitie

you implied that he does have learning disabilities. how quickly you forget:p

calling the media liberal is &quot;unfounded&quot;. Media is controlled by large mega corps headed by conservatives.
 

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I wouldn't say the media corporations are controlled by conservatives in general. But definately moderate or a little right of center.

Conservatives are historically significantly more hypocritical than liberals. One reason is because they spew garbage out of their mouths too much.

I know, I used to be one.:D
 

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you implied that he does have learning disabilities. how quickly you forget

calling the media liberal is &quot;unfounded&quot;. Media is controlled by large mega corps headed by conservatives


I said speech disabilities because at his age 'learning disabilities' is not applicable.

I'm an avid reader. I love to read editorials and op eds from both sides. I didn't call the media liberal, I said the liberal media meaning the liberals present in the media.
 

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I didn't call the media liberal, I said the liberal media meaning the liberals present in the media.


and we dance...
 
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OK, two questions for 67gt500:

1) Are you saying that everyone who is inarticulate has dyslexia or another learning disability?

2) Can you point to one source that has identified GWB as dyslexic, or having any other learning disability?

Until and unless you can show me a reliable source for #2, your entire argument is meaningless. As I said above, I know plenty of dyslexics who have no problem speaking in public, and plenty of non-dyslexics who struggle to express themselves (and thus, in your parlance, had an &quot;obvious&quot;, but undiagnosable &quot;disorder&quot;. Unless the &quot;liberal media&quot; knows, but is not reporting, that GWB has a learning disability, you have shown exactly zero, and done so in a thoroughly self-serving and cryptic fashion.
 

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Red Dawn


<< When all is said and done Bush will rank up there with Lincoln, Mary Todd Lincoln >>


better that than how Clinton ranked right up there w/John Wilkes Booth ;)
 

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make fun of everyone! especially yourself.


as far as i can remember the media has taken any opportunaty to 'make fun of' anything a president did wrong.

being the president is saying you are most suited to lead us, which can come off as saying you think you are better, which then opens you to ridicual on any tiny mistake. the media is not hypocritical for picking on the president, even if he has a disability, because they always pick on presidents. now if they cut him slack, then they would be giving him preferential treatment because of a disability, thus discriminating against him. and if they never made fun of the president we'd never know he was there. what the hell else are they gonna say?


ok, so my spelling and grammar suck a$$ right now, i'm not gonna change it in this post....what can i say i'm dyslexic and have typing disabilities.


silly humans.
 

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<< better that than how Clinton ranked right up there w/John Wilkes Booth >>

I think you would be more correct if you were to say &quot;Aaron Burr&quot;
 

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67GT.... ummm ok... yelling at everyone for attacking the poster and ignoring the straight answers like mine... won't get you very far...



<< Liberal Media is hypocritical >>



SO F$#king what? Hypocrasy is the nature of free politics.

What's your point?... Conservatives are hypocritical.... liberals are hypocritical.... winnie the fin pooh is hypocritical.... my mother is hypocritical... what about this specific hypocracy warrants a discussion?

-Max
 

Rastus

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Congratulations on a troll post well executed. You reeled in some fish with that one. ;)
 

67gt500

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2) Can you point to one source that has identified GWB as dyslexic, or having any other learning disability?

Until and unless you can show me a reliable source for #2, your entire argument is meaningless. As I said above, I know plenty of dyslexics who have no problem speaking in public, and plenty of non-dyslexics who struggle to express themselves (and thus, in your parlance, had an &quot;obvious&quot;, but undiagnosable &quot;disorder&quot;.


I take it you don't read editorials. Pick up a ny times, an la times, a washington post, a gazett, a nation... and read.



Does GWB or doesn't he have a speech disorder in your opinion?
 

67gt500

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SO F$#king what? Hypocrasy is the nature of free politics.

so then how difficult is it for people to simply say what you said rather than divert and spin? A simple response like this is all I was looking for. Instead I got the spin and trolling.. which is pretty much what I expected from the leftists on this board.

Both sides are hypocritical. The so what of the matter is that neither side is willing to admit it. That is the so what.