Lian Li 1100B high case temps

[MrVeedo]

Lian Li 1100B high case temps

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hey guys, i just switched my system over to the 1100b case, from my trusty antec sx1040 case i was using previously. the lian li, is quieter, but the temps are way way higher than my old antec. my antec had 4 80mm cooler master fans, 2intake 2exhaust, and my cpu temps stayed around 51 loaded. with the new lian li, my temps are jumping up to 60 loaded, and my 6600gt temps are skyrocketed, +15c higher. the lian li has 2 120mm fans, 1intake 1exhaust, but the way they are set up, it dont look like it works very efficiently. does anyone have this type of case, and if so, what have you done to control your temps? i guess i can try to switch to higher cfm fans, but i really dont want to increase the sound level too much more. let me know what ya think about some good replacement fans, or any other ideas. might just live with it, or switch back to the old antec, and suffer with it being a little louder.

 

[akira34]

My temps went down when I went to the V1100 from the same antec case you did. What processor, mobo, etc do you have inside the system?

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: akira34
My temps went down when I went to the V1100 from the same antec case you did. What processor, mobo, etc do you have inside the system?

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[Nessism]

I know some others will disagree with me but I'm not a fan of the Lian Li 1000/1100 case layout. The lower front 120 only cools the hard drives which leaves the other 120 to cool the entire main compartment. One 120 should be enough mind you, but the Antec previously mentioned has far more ventilation thoughout the case.

As far are your temps go, so long as you max out at 60C, you should be okay.

Good luck.

Ed

 

[Mucker]

You mean my $40 Super Lanboy that has a reset button outcools a $200+ Lian-Li....now that's comical.......

m

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: Nessism
I know some others will disagree with me but I'm not a fan of the Lian Li 1000/1100 case layout. The lower front 120 only cools the hard drives which leaves the other 120 to cool the entire main compartment. One 120 should be enough mind you, but the Antec previously mentioned has far more ventilation thoughout the case.

As far are your temps go, so long as you max out at 60C, you should be okay.

Good luck.

Ed

i thought the same nessism. i think the case cooling would be far more effective if the 120mm fans were in the same chamber. i could be wrong, i am no professional on case cooling, but it is obvious it doesnt have quite the cooling a push/pull fan setup has. maybe this would change dramatically with a little higher cfm fan, but i really doubt it.

 

[akira34]

With the stock fans in my V1100 case I get processor temps of around 33-35C... That's the tower rig in my sig... If you're getting higher temps then I'd say there's something else going on with your rig.

Don't be so fast to blame the case... As I've mentioned, I've used other cases before and the V1100 is better than those were in many ways. I went from the SX1040BII case to the V1100 and noticed a temperature drop on the processor and case when I did. I even installed a higher end video card after moving to the V1100 case. I'm running more hard drives now than when I had the antec case too.

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: akira34
With the stock fans in my V1100 case I get processor temps of around 33-35C... That's the tower rig in my sig... If you're getting higher temps then I'd say there's something else going on with your rig.

Don't be so fast to blame the case... As I've mentioned, I've used other cases before and the V1100 is better than those were in many ways. I went from the SX1040BII case to the V1100 and noticed a temperature drop on the processor and case when I did. I even installed a higher end video card after moving to the V1100 case. I'm running more hard drives now than when I had the antec case too.

i havent changed anything else, other than moving all of my components out of my antec case, and back into the new lian li. my cables are tidy, and there is nothing stopping the case from cooling like it should. maybe i had better cooling in my antec than you did with your antec, is the only way we could be seeing different performance levels. im not sure what to think, but all i can say is my temps went up by moving to this case.

 

[Nessism]

Originally posted by: MrVeedo

Originally posted by: akira34
With the stock fans in my V1100 case I get processor temps of around 33-35C... That's the tower rig in my sig... If you're getting higher temps then I'd say there's something else going on with your rig.

Don't be so fast to blame the case... As I've mentioned, I've used other cases before and the V1100 is better than those were in many ways. I went from the SX1040BII case to the V1100 and noticed a temperature drop on the processor and case when I did. I even installed a higher end video card after moving to the V1100 case. I'm running more hard drives now than when I had the antec case too.

i havent changed anything else, other than moving all of my components out of my antec case, and back into the new lian li. my cables are tidy, and there is nothing stopping the case from cooling like it should. maybe i had better cooling in my antec than you did with your antec, is the only way we could be seeing different performance levels. im not sure what to think, but all i can say is my temps went up by moving to this case.

I'm not surprised Sorry

 

[akira34]

I had four case fans inside my 1040 too... What are your temps like at stock speeds? What are you using for a cooler on your processor? Something really isn't right with your rig. Especially since I'm running with the same case, four hard drives, three optical drives, a 6800GT video card, full GB of DDR400 and such... Of course, the Arctic Cooling unit on the 6800GT means that none of the heat off the GPU is being tossed back into the case. Maybe you should think about improving the cooling on your video card and processor, before blaming the case.

 

[MrVeedo]

Maybe you should think about improving the cooling on your video card and processor, before blaming the case.

look, akira 34, i like the lian li case alot, but really there isnt really anything else to blame it on, except the new case, lol. all of my components that were in my antec were put into the lian li, same stuff, nothing changed at all, so there is pretty much only one thing that would have changed temps > the case. im using the xp120 and a 120mm tt fan, so the cooler is adequate. i cant say i expected a decrease in temps by switching to this case, but i didnt expect this much of an increase either. just by comparing the two you can tell the antec would be better at keeping the vid card cooler, due to fan placement in the front, moving cool air over the graphics card, this is something the lian li lacks. the lack of cfms/rpm on the stock lian li fans would explain my temp rises on my cpu/mobo. there isnt a whole lot of air being moved through the case with the lower speed/cfm lian li fans(i would bet that my old 80mm coolermaster fans had a higher cfm rating than the 120mm lian lis). i can say one thing though, it does a much much better job of keeping quiet compared to the antec, and i am still satisfied with the case. the drop in noise, looks, and build quality make it all right in my book, i just dont think its up to snuff in the super duper cooling department.

 

[akira34]

Assuming that just because you're having issues with moving to the V1100 doesn't make it the one to blame. As I mentioned, I took my rig (with less hardware in it) and moved it to the V1100 and saw a temp DROP. I've since added MORE hardware to my rig and didn't see a temp increase at all. I've also moved to the XP-120 processor cooler along with an Arctic Cooling unit on my video card. IF you're using stock cooling on your video card, that cooler dumping heat into the case could have something to do with your high temps. Then again, with the way you're acting, I wouldn't bet on anything. As for the fans, it's already been posted as to the spec's of the fans in the V1100... They push about 70CFM at full rotation.

BTW, do you have the fan on your XP-120 set to suck or blow??

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: akira34
Assuming that just because you're having issues with moving to the V1100 doesn't make it the one to blame. As I mentioned, I took my rig (with less hardware in it) and moved it to the V1100 and saw a temp DROP. I've since added MORE hardware to my rig and didn't see a temp increase at all. I've also moved to the XP-120 processor cooler along with an Arctic Cooling unit on my video card. IF you're using stock cooling on your video card, that cooler dumping heat into the case could have something to do with your high temps. Then again, with the way you're acting, I wouldn't bet on anything. As for the fans, it's already been posted as to the spec's of the fans in the V1100... They push about 70CFM at full rotation.

BTW, do you have the fan on your XP-120 set to suck or blow??

with the way im acting? all im trying to do is explain whats going on here. the coolers on my video card and cpu should be taken right out of the equation, they dont matter because im using the SAME COMPONENTS that were in my antec. it wouldnt matter what i was using for hardware, as long as the components were the same in each case. my xp120 is set to blow down on the board. it sounds like you are taking this case thing way to personal...i really dont mean to insult you by saying this case doesnt cool good. im just stating what ive experienced with it, and i have no idea why you would notice a decrease in temps, and i would notice an increase, probobly due to different configurations in the antec case, i dono. but just take it easy and dont get insulted,

 

[akira34]

Try flipping your fan to suck off the heatsink...

I'd also make sure the cool and quiet aspect of your mobo is enabled (if that one supports it)... Set the temps as low as they will go and set the variation as low as it will go too. I did that on my own rig and it made a difference in the processor temp/noise level. Now the fan spins slower until needed, but my temps are still good...

 

[jbh129]

I have heard several reports of poor cooling in these otehrwise beautiful cases. The artic cooling solution would probably help. In fact, I beleive LL has a PCI blower that they made to get rid of heat from GPUs. They should have taken that into consideration before they built the case. I would try the PCI blower fan if you dont want an artic cooling unit. It should help

 

[Mucker]

There is zero excuses for a high dollar case to have poor cooling/airflow. Should you really have to spend additional money....HELL NO! Sounds like putting a band-aids on the real problem. The engineers really screwed the pooch and then had the balls to slap a high price tag on it! Tell me that's A-OK........

m

 

[MrVeedo]

Try flipping your fan to suck off the heatsink...

flipped my fan, cpu temps went down about 3c. thats pretty cool. ambient and gpu stayed about the same i think, but pretty neat. i ran my old alpha 8085 sink with the fan sucking and it got better temps also. never thought this sink would benefit from that. thanks for the tip!

 

[akira34]

I can get lower temps with higher flow fans, but that makes the case louder. I'm ordering up some more fans tonight to replace the enermax that I just installed yesterday. The enermax fans are just too loud for my liking. I'm ordering a trio of Panaflo fans to replace the fan on the XP-120 as well as the two case fans. I just hope that these three fans do a better job than the enermax fans did. Especially since the stock Adda fans performed better. :Q Tells you something about both the fans that Lian-Li uses and the enermax 120mm (x25) fans...

BTW, I would suggest using something like the Arctic Cooling GPU cooler. With it venting the hot air from the GPU to the outside of the case immediately, it will improve your case temps (as well as the GPU temps).

 

[wylecoyote]

Well after reading over this post, I thought I'd add my two cents, and perhaps tip the scales.

I own a V1100b. I used to have my rig in a Sonata. And guess what. When I switched, the temps dropped, and the noise dropped. And not by just a little. Considerably. So, if it's worth anything, there's 2 to 1. (Looks at Mucker) Before we get our panties in a twist again over whether or not the V1100b is over-priced junk, let's try and solve the man's problem. Kapeesh?

Now, on to solving your problem... Akira is right... which direction your fan blows on your HSF makes a huge difference. My XP-120 is set to suck, and the exhaust fan a few inches away pulls out the hot air the XP-120 blows out it's top, preventing it from festering inside the case. In fact, if you want an amazing improvement in cooling, there are several posts/articles around here that illustrate how to duct your computer... lowering the temps of everything.

 

[wylecoyote]

I see my post was a bit late. My bad.

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: wylecoyote
Well after reading over this post, I thought I'd add my two cents, and perhaps tip the scales.

I own a V1100b. I used to have my rig in a Sonata. And guess what. When I switched, the temps dropped, and the noise dropped. And not by just a little. Considerably. So, if it's worth anything, there's 2 to 1. (Looks at Mucker) Before we get our panties in a twist again over whether or not the V1100b is over-priced junk, let's try and solve the man's problem. Kapeesh?

lol, thanks wylecoyote, yea this case puts the antec to shame on the noise factor, and the flipping of the 120 did drop my temps by quite a bit. after a bit more testing, my video card temps went down a notch when i switched the fan to suck also, around 7-8 degrees c, so the card gets somewhere in the mid 80c loaded, (still hot i know, but seems liek these cards run hot normally). my budy had a sonata last year, to tell you the truth it was never "silent" and his temps went way up compared to his antec 1040 style case. i think he put high cfm fans in it though, which could explain the noise, but that case is quite a bit smaller than the 1040, which also could explain alot. thanks for the help guys.

edit: i forgot i also cranked down the temp inside my house by about 3 degrees F, so that could have a little effect on my temp drop also.

 

[akira34]

I'd look to get an Arctic Cooling unit for your video card. That will vent the air out of the case. Right now, even with the video card fan sucking, it's still spilling the air into the case. That will increase your ambient temps, and push up the processor temps too. My 6800GT card idles in the low 40C range with the Arctic Cooling unit installed on it. Right after playing games, I don't recall seeing it go over 55-60C. Also, the AC unit is QUIET...

 

[MrVeedo]

Originally posted by: akira34
I'd look to get an Arctic Cooling unit for your video card. That will vent the air out of the case. Right now, even with the video card fan sucking, it's still spilling the air into the case. That will increase your ambient temps, and push up the processor temps too. My 6800GT card idles in the low 40C range with the Arctic Cooling unit installed on it. Right after playing games, I don't recall seeing it go over 55-60C. Also, the AC unit is QUIET...

im not sure the artic coolers are made for the 6600gt's...ill have to look into it. the extra heat isnt really causing a problem right now, and i dont know how long i will be running the 6600 series, so i might say heck with it and wait for 6800s. have the arctic coolers improved since the first one? i know i stuck one on my 9800 and it wasnt effective at all. i used 1u coolers for my ati's and they worked awesome

 

[akira34]

There is one for it... Called the Silencer 6... Not sure who has them in stock yet, but you should be able to hunt one down.

 

[MrVeedo]

sweet, looks pretty cool. i might have to try one for the heck of it. how did the arctic silencer affect your 6800 temps? also, do these silencers actually move air out of your case, can you feel the air moving outside the case? the silencer i tried on my 9800 didnt work so hot, it actually seemed to suck air in, probobly due to different case pressure.