LHC Is Doomed, Until it is not

[destrekor]

gizmodo article

the future hates us and our fancy stuff!
:awe:

 

[TwiceOver]

The comments are gold.

 

[MoPHo]

"Hey have you heard the word...about the bird..."

lol

 

[techs]

Makes perfect sense if you are familiar with the origin of the term computer "bug"

 

[Crono]

The birds are trying to save us.

 

[destrekor]

Makes perfect sense if you are familiar with the origin of the term computer "bug"

i'm also familiar with the phrase "bread from the sky"

rusty basements are also suspicious.

someone is trying to send us a signal. CERN is creating death.

i for one expect the zombie swine flu to originate at CERN. Some one concocted this mix on purpose, so that they, and they alone, would actually bear witness to the end of the world, with all the remaining zombified and able to merely experience.

 

[JohnCU]

i'm also familiar with the phrase "bread from the sky"

rusty basements are also suspicious.

someone is trying to send us a signal. CERN is creating death.

i for one expect the zombie swine flu to originate at CERN. Some one concocted this mix on purpose, so that they, and they alone, would actually bear witness to the end of the world, with all the remaining zombified and able to merely experience.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Two comments:
1. How do you spend billions of dollars on something and engineer it so poorly that it breaks down 5+ times before its launch?

2. Maybe it's being sabotaged by the future.

 

[JohnCU]

Two comments:
1. How do you spend billions of dollars on something and engineer it so poorly that it breaks down 5+ times before its launch?

2. Maybe it's being sabotaged by the future.

have you not seen how complex this thing is?

 

[Gunslinger08]

have you not seen how complex this thing is?

I've seen it. Do a real engineering job and put in multiple backups for every system so you don't have to shut everything down and waste millions of dollars everytime something goes wrong.

 

[destrekor]

The future is our enemy to progress. We must kill the future, maybe even nuke the future from orbit - it's the only way.

 

[bonkers325]

I've seen it. Do a real engineering job and put in multiple backups for every system so you don't have to shut everything down and waste millions of dollars everytime something goes wrong.

Because you're an expert on large hadron colliding.

They didn't blow up the world, I'd assume that any/all fail-safes are working.

 

[rivan]

Actually, the LHC is nigh invulnerable. The bird happened to drop the bread in a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port. The shaft lead directly to the reactor system, and caused the overheating.

 

[CPA]

The comments are gold.

I see what you did there.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Whole wheat diets: The doom of CERN.

 

[Jeff7]

I've seen it. Do a real engineering job and put in multiple backups for every system so you don't have to shut everything down and waste millions of dollars everytime something goes wrong.

Multiple backups = more money, and more complexity in what is already the most complicated machine this species has ever built.

Come on, the thing has to be adjusted due to the Moon passing overhead, causing the ground to flex underneath it. I don't think that normal construction tolerances apply here.
For the total cost of the thing, I think they're getting a lot for their money.
Google sez....LHC cost = $4.6B. Edit: Ok, that was off. More like $8.4B. Also, we don't have Strike-through capability with vB?
Cost of one space shuttle (Endeavor): $1.7B.

 

[Epic Fail]

It's bidding its time until 2012.

 

[JohnCU]

Multiple backups = more money, and more complexity in what is already the most complicated machine this species has ever built.

Come on, the thing has to be adjusted due to the Moon passing overhead, causing the ground to flex underneath it. I don't think that normal construction tolerances apply here.
For the total cost of the thing, I think they're getting a lot for their money.
Google sez....LHC cost = $4.6B.
Cost of one space shuttle (Endeavor): $1.7B.

err, are you for real? moon adjustments? link?

 

[destrekor]

err, are you for real? moon adjustments? link?

I believe it.

They have to calculate for the moon and other random variables with some of the insane laser experiments. Something of this nature I'd say it's entirely possible the moon would have a real effect on it. It effects water and does in fact alter the Earth at the most minute scale, fluid dynamics at play.

It's bidding its time until 2012.

indeed. The future is trying to fight the present something fierce, and will continue to win, until it does not, and that day will be the end of something. I say the future kills us, but it may very well be we kill the future.
Of course, one will never truly know. It's all be quantum physics based and if we try and measure it, we're giving the finger to the past. And seriously, we don't want to bring the past into this. That'll just be a big mess.

 

[Jeff7]

err, are you for real? moon adjustments? link?

Yeah, I read that somewhere. The Moon passing overhead causes slight deformations in Earth's crust. Very tiny amounts, granted.
Googling for source.....

Got it - bullet #3.

Like tides in the ocean, the ground is also subject to lunar attraction. When the Moon is full, the Earth's crust actually rises about 25 cm (9.8 in). This movement causes the circumference of the LHC to vary by (a whopping) 1 mm (out of 27 km, a factor of 0.000004%) ) but that's enough so that physicists need to take it into account.

And here's what you get when tidal forces cause more than 100m of flexing in "solid" rock.

 

[JohnCU]

Yeah, I read that somewhere. The Moon passing overhead causes slight deformations in Earth's crust. Very tiny amounts, granted.
Googling for source.....

Got it - bullet #3.


And here's what you get when tidal forces cause more than 100m of flexing in "solid" rock.

whoa that's awesome :awe: :awe: :awe:

god damnit i wish we could still type in all caps, this is worthy of that.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Yeah, I read that somewhere. The Moon passing overhead causes slight deformations in Earth's crust. Very tiny amounts, granted.
Googling for source.....

Got it - bullet #3.


And here's what you get when tidal forces cause more than 100m of flexing in "solid" rock.

Is that...the Death Star from Return of the Jedi?

 

[Jeff7]

whoa that's awesome :awe: :awe: :awe:

God damnit i wish we could still type in all caps, this is worthy of that.

Well, sort of.

CAPS LOCK YAY!

MM, CAPS

Spoiler

SPOILER CAPS

Is that...the Death Star from Return of the Jedi?

No, that was the third Death Star. They were short on money though, so they got a sponsor. As the new sponsor, Campbell's Soup decided that "Death Star" wasn't very marketable, so now it's the "Chunky Homestyle Vegetable Soup Star."

 

[JohnCU]

well, sort of.

mm, caps

Spoiler

spoiler caps

woooooot

 

[JohnCU]

damnit it didn't work for me, fail