LHC complications

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bwanaaa

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didnt know what we can and cant pick up from space. I do know we can read a license plate from the keyhole satellite despite the fact that there are many brighter light sources on the planet's surface. Also, magnetic anomaly detectors can detect very slight magnetic anomalies in the ocean (i.e. submarines) despite the fact that the earth's magnetic field is weak. Likewise, I inferred that we could measure a perturbation in the magnetsosphere which is many times weaker than the more potent but much more localized magnetic field of the LHC..

As for affecting the earths rotation, why not? After all, is it not the flow of the mantle that is theorized to generate the earth's magnetic field? Would then a magnetic field not influence the flow of the mantle? Even if we are above the curie point, the magnetic eddies (just like the ones that occur in the paramagnetic metal, aluminum, when it moves through a magnetic field) could deflect the flow of the mantle. Changing the mantle flow changes the angular momentum and this would lead to a change in the angular momentum (rotation) of the earth.
 

dinkumthinkum

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Originally posted by: bwanaaa
As for affecting the earths rotation, why not?

There are 6x10^24 reasons why not.

That's a 6 with 24 zeroes following it. In kilograms. An important component of momentum.

6000000000000000000000000 <- Earth
100 <- You

Humans are so egocentric, it's hilariously sad.
 

bwanaaa

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too bad there is no one who can demonstrate with a clear equation the reason why the LHC deformation of the magnetosphere cannot be calculated. i am not egocentric, just curious and ignorant. my weight has nothing to do with it.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: bwanaaa
too bad there is no one who can demonstrate with a clear equation the reason why the LHC deformation of the magnetosphere cannot be calculated. i am not egocentric, just curious and ignorant. my weight has nothing to do with it.

I already told you, the best you can do is fall off by 1/r^3. At 8T you lose the magnetic field after a few hundred feet to the Earth's magnetic field. Fer Christ's sake, the LHC isn't really that special. There are a number of particle accelerators in action around the world. MRI machines have larger magnetic fields than LHC.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: bwanaaa
too bad there is no one who can demonstrate with a clear equation the reason why the LHC deformation of the magnetosphere cannot be calculated. i am not egocentric, just curious and ignorant. my weight has nothing to do with it.

It's like asking what the effect of me spitting into the Pacific Ocean here in Vancouver will have on the surf in Australia.