LGA775 or s939 as upgrade options

[sylversock]

I know that there was recently a processor war thread but forgive me for wanting a bit more objectivity as I would like some advice for a new pc - primarily for gaming ie. HL2 and I'd like to run new titles on max settings for at least a year . Please help with the following CPU questions:

1) Intel have promised that when there is a 64bit OS they will have 64bit processors ready. If this is the case, could you possibly be able to use a current LGA775 socket and mobo or would a complete system overhaul be in order?

2) From the price lists I've seen - the Prescott's are much cheaper than s939 chips, and one also gets the benefits of DDR2 and PEG. Is the AMD 3500+ worth its increased price and lesser "new technology"?

3) DDR2 533 may not have much benefit, but is it possible that an overclocked P4 3.2E to about 3.6 or 3.7 with FSB to 1066mhz and DDR2 600 will outperform an AMD 3500+ in gaming?

4) Does the s939s scale as well as the Prescott with overclocking?

5) Will the Lakeport Intel CPU's coming out in Q1 '05 according to the Intel 'roadmap' (essentially a Prescott with 2mb l2 cache) work on current LGA775 mobo's and present an upgrade option?

6) Finally... as a total solution - AMD64 3500+ or Intel Prescott 3.2Ghz?

 

[socket9851]

forget about going intel there good for multitasking and Hyperthreading helps when u run multible applications where both applications are demanding 100% cpu usage but as far as gaming goes
AMD athlon 64's run away the winner here is the 2 combo's i am looking at right now to purchase if you go with the older amd socket 754 chipset this is the board that you want to use it OC's very well and is a great board

http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=13-136-147&DEPA=1

here is the processor that i would recommend older socket 754
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-103-483&depa=1

you can also go with this combo which you can read about the performance of the socket 939 chips here http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2242&p=6

going with the 939 chipset as you can see from the anandtech article a socket 939 athlon 64 3000 overclocked performs as good and sometimes better than a FX 53 so in that case i would go this route

this motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=13-128-263&depa=1
and than this processor

http://www.monarchcomputer.com...mp;Category_Code=AMD64

this heatsink/fan http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=35-118-109&depa=0

 

[Hyperlite]

alright i agree with everything he said, putting an emphasis on the skt939 solution. LOL i must say, it gives me a headache when people don't use ANY punctuation.
For gaming, an A64 is a must. another option would be to use an FX-55, as it is also skt 939. It appears that price really isn't an issue for you, but if you want to save some $, i suggest you get a 90nm skt939 3000+ and OC up to 2.5ghz or so. that will be on par with at least an FX-53 for a couple hundred $ less.

an in regards to OC scaling, think about this: a 90nm skt939 3000+ stock clock is 1.8GHZ. read the articles, i believe they reached 2.5Ghz with relative ease.

hope this helps out, and good luck!

 

[sylversock]

Thanks a lot for the help.
I only noticed now how AMD kicks the stuffing out of Prescott in gaming by sometimes 15-20 fps, I marvel at how a CPU clocked at 1.8ghz can consistently outperform one double its clock speed.

Only problem now being impatience as I don't want to have to buy a new motherboard/RAM in the future which is why I was considering Intel. Does anybody know when the s939 boards with PCIexpress are arriving? Note I've got a two month holiday coming up so I'm gonna need a gaming rig pretty soon Is it worth it going with a s939,DDR400, and AGP 8x board now when I'm going to have to change motherboard, graphics card and RAM within two years?