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LGA775 3.4Ghz 800Mhz FSB Temps

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JesSimaca

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I booted up the computer for the first time, set up the bios. Now looking at the temperatures they look to high. The CPU is running at a temp of 87c and the system is reading at 37c. Applied Artic Silver 5 compound to the cpu. It would shut it self off before I removed the thermal pad, and I applied the new compound. Now it will run without shutting off now. Did I not apply enough thermal compound. I only put a drop the size of a grain of rice. Any input would be helpful. Are the temperatures to high?


Some Info:

ECS 661FX-M7 ~ MoBo
P4 LGA775/800MHz FSB ~ CPU
2GB of RAM
ATI RADEON X800 pro 256 MB ~ Vid Card
 
I think it might be possible that I damaged a temp sensor during my first few boots when it would shut down after 15 secs. That's the reason I went with the AS 5.

Today I removed, re-cleaned and re-seated the HS and CPU. I booted it up and ran it for a while - the temps are still a little high but it's very stable (as far as the temps rising). The system is @ 38 c and CPU reads 86 c.

I think the sensor may be off because the system temp was around normal, and there is a 50 c difference between the two. If the CPU was so hot wouldn't it warm up the system temp??

Oh ya, thank you for the reply! Almost 18 hours and no replies !?!

Let me know what you think. 🙂
 
Who cares? Unless you are idleing on throttle watch because of it. Or failing out of P95 because of it?

FYI-silicone melts at 1400C
 
"idleing on throttle watch because of it/failing out of P95 because of it"


What do these things mean exactly???😕
 
Maybe I should have said this already but.... there is no O/S, and I, myself don't intend on installing one. This is for my brother in England (overseas), and he wants to put in his own O/S.

Is there anything else I can do do check it? Is there anyway to actually speed up (or slow down) a fan?

Thanks
 
Well..............I know now WHY my temps were sooo high!!!!

It's kind of stupid actually.

After much searching and reading I decided to go back to the manufacturer's websites and see if there was anything I missed. I went to the MoBo site and looked up my model and what processors they support. Low and behold..........................
.................there it is!!! TWO Intel P4, 3.4 GHz, 800MHz FSB, LGA 775's!!!!!!!:|

One is: Pentium 4 Processor-Extreme (HT)~3.4 GHz (2M cache,800MHz,LGA775) and.......
the other is: Pentium 4 Processor (Prescott) (HT)~3.4 GHz (1M cache,800MHz,LGA775)

Do you see that?!?!? PRESCOTT

I looked on my P4 box and sure enough mine has the 1M cache!!!

That explains that. My temps start at 77/28 and rise to 86/38 steady.... so I suppose that makes them alright!?

😉

Now that solves that problem, but NOW my memory test fails in BIOS!!! Any thoughts on that?!


Thanks again to all of you guys and your helpful input, it's nice to know I can find help when I need it, from some of the best, I'm sure 🙂
 
Those temps are way too high even for a Prescott. Something is wrong. Either the readings are wrong, the HSF is incorrectly attached, or something. If those temps are accurate, that chip will be throttling most of the time.
 
How can I tell how it's throttling w/out an O/S?

The heat sink is level and secure and the temp stops rising, so it's possible that the sensor was slightly damaged?
 
The sensor is inside the chip, so you couldn't have damaged it.

Did you completely clean off the thermal pad from the heatsink and the processor?

Did you follow the application instructions for AS5? You can read them at their web site.

An 86C chip temperature would mean a blazing hot heat sink. Hot enough to burn you. You might carefully try to see if the heatsink really is that hot.

You could also run with the case open and a fan pointing at the mobo to see what readings you get.

I know of no way to see if the chip is throttling without running throttlewatch.

Can you temporarily install a copy of WinXP? It could be from any disc, since you won't be activating it, and you'll be formatting the drive later anyway. Then you could also run the motherboard utilities and get another opinion on your chip's temperatures.
 
Check my system below. My CPU temp idles 42/43 and rarely gets over 50. 3.4 Prescott w/lM cache. The new HS helped a lot.
 
I think it is clear this is an error reporting...cpu at 86c wuold have shut down since most mobos have a 75c shutdown as default...

I would think it is a case of a crap ECS mobo (likely a fryes bundle) that needs a bios flash to see if that solves temp reporting errors...

The 37c is high but not knowing where that sensor is, is hard to tell...

Does the heatsink feel warm or hot to the touch....If it feels cool then maybe you are having a contact issue. Make sure hsf is properly sitting in the retention clip and make sure the retention clip is fastened all the way down to the motherboard....

If it is warm then it should be making good contact. If it is hot (like burning at 86c) then it is definitely working and the temps are real!!! In that case Ouch!!!
 
Will the Thermaltake Silent 775 CPU Cooler fit the exact dimensions of my stock HS fan???

Sounds like a good idea!

thanks 🙂
 
I have seen some botch jobs with AS5 too little/too much but never with temps this high. YOu damn near only get this with metal to metal contact alone...
 
The Thermaltake Silent 775 CPU Cooler fit my Intel MB 775 socket with no problem. Dry fit, so you which way to turn to clear things on the board. Mine would only fit turned one direction.
 
The HS def feels warm, I wouldn't say hot - I touched it w/out burning myself. I've done some reading on flashing the BIOS but I can't do that without some kind of O/S right????
 
I've applied the AS 5 twice - better results the second time around. I followed the directons to a tee - small amount (size of a piece of rice) in the middle, it didnt say to spread it either.

🙂
 
If you flash using the FDD then no...If you use software be it the manufacturers liveupdate or winflash then yes.....

I would install an OS and then let him reformat when he gets it. That way you can do the thorough investigation this board needs. Why send something across the world when it may have problems and need to be returned??? Figure that out now!!...NO biggie!!!
 
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