LGA2011 Core i7-3960X

[Gikaseixas]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=31267

AMD will launch their BD line soon (well, hopefully) and Intel is aparently baking these babies for 4Q11 / 1Q12. Also, AMD (according to some rumors) are preparing higher performance versions of BD for a 1Q12 launch. Gentlemen, start your engines

Core i7-3960X
6 cores with hyper-thread (12 threads) @ 3.3 / Turbo @ 3.9
15MB of cache
130W

Core i7-3930K
6 cores with hyper-thread (12 threads) @ 3.2 / Turbo @ 3.8
12MB of cache
130W

Your thoughts

 

[eelw]

Happy with my Gulftown still.

 

[notty22]

According to the notation :
Increased memory bandwidth, Intel AVX and improved cache, increase performance dramatically.

NICE

 

[Tuna-Fish]

According to the notation :
Increased memory bandwidth, Intel AVX and improved cache, increase performance dramatically.

The SB ring bus and high-bandwidth last level cache are a huge improvement to the Nehalem caches.

 

[Idontcare]

Core i7-3930K
6 cores with hyper-thread (12 threads) @ 3.2 / Turbo @ 3.8
12MB of cache
130W

Your thoughts

What price are we expecting for the 3930K?

 

[Rifter]

As long as they still allow Bclock overclocking im in for whatever the cheapest 6 core is, if not ill wait for IB.

 

[Idontcare]

As long as they still allow Bclock overclocking im in for whatever the cheapest 6 core is, if not ill wait for IB.

I thought Bclock OC'ing was basically dead with SB because they brought so much into the CPU now that it is not really tolerant of Bclock changes?

(I've read of small Bclock OC's but nothing substantial)

 

[Gikaseixas]

What price are we expecting for the 3930K?

I guess that will be a direct replacement for the i7 980, the non extreme version.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I'm not sure why Intel is releasing these CPUs -- I doubt 980 and 990x will be dethroned anytime soon.

 

[Rifter]

I thought Bclock OC'ing was basically dead with SB because they brought so much into the CPU now that it is not really tolerant of Bclock changes?

(I've read of small Bclock OC's but nothing substantial)

The initial 2011 rumors had the bclock still being unlocked like 1366 but the latest rumors ive herd say that indeed it will be locked(due to the way SB doesnt tolerate Bclock changes). So i guess time will tell.

Either way if i cant grab a cheaper locked 6 core and OC it to the max(very much like 1366 socket and my current 930) then i will wait for IB and see what happens with it for overclocking options.

I hope we dont end up with no Bclock overcloking at all going forward as just multiplier overclocking is very boring and doesnt allow the same amount of control over the system.

 

[Rifter]

I'm not sure why Intel is releasing these CPUs -- I doubt 980 and 990x will be dethroned anytime soon.

I'll eat my hat if the top end SB-E chip doesnt beat a 990x.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I'm not sure why Intel is releasing these CPUs -- I doubt 980 and 990x will be dethroned anytime soon.

Don't know about that mate. Just look at i7 990X vs i7 2600K benches. Very close match IMO. One wins in some and looses in others.

Equiped with improved cores and higher mhz speeds (via overcloking) my bet is on the 3000 series

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

I've always wondered, what sets apart mobos now if we are indeed completely and utterly dependant on unlocked-multi overclocking?

It used to be you paid a premium (in part) for improved engineering of signal traces, which lead to you being able to run at higher HT/FSB/BCLK/etc frequencies.

 

[Rifter]

I've always wondered, what sets apart mobos now if we are indeed completely and utterly dependant on unlocked-multi overclocking?

It used to be you paid a premium (in part) for improved engineering of signal traces, which lead to you being able to run at higher HT/FSB/BCLK/etc frequencies.

I completly agree, high end mobo's will be a thing of the past if you exclude FSB/Bclock overclocking. The only thing thats going to make a differnce if we are limited to multi overclocking is the power phases, you are still going to need clean power for a good overclock but the rest of the board could be bargin basement.

 

[pantsaregood]

Ivy Bridge over locking options will be the same as SB. It is a die shrink.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

I'm not sure why Intel is releasing these CPUs -- I doubt 980 and 990x will be dethroned anytime soon.

These probably use the same masks as their new server processors. So the answer to your question is: There was no reason not to.

Also, since 990x loses to 2600k in singlethreaded, for most loads on desktop the best Intel processor to buy was ~$300. It's a good idea for them to make a higher-end SB processor just so that the people who aren't sensitive to prices will give them more money.

 

[john3850]

Now by using just one clock on the sb intel now does overclocking for you its sad but true.

 

[Nemesis 1]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=31267

AMD will launch their BD line soon (well, hopefully) and Intel is aparently baking these babies for 4Q11 / 1Q12. Also, AMD (according to some rumors) are preparing higher performance versions of BD for a 1Q12 launch. Gentlemen, start your engines

Core i7-3960X
6 cores with hyper-thread (12 threads) @ 3.3 / Turbo @ 3.9
15MB of cache
130W

Core i7-3930K
6 cores with hyper-thread (12 threads) @ 3.2 / Turbo @ 3.8
12MB of cache
130W

Your thoughts

Well there is the 3980X that is as of yet announced. It comes out about 2 weeks after the 3 announced versions. Likely the 8 core extreme edition.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ivy Bridge over locking options will be the same as SB. It is a die shrink.

YA Ya . Its just a die shrink to 22nm . Ya right thats not supported by the available information. If we are to believe intel . And theres is no reason not to / 3D trigate gate brings a 20% clock increase at = power usage . If that applies to overclocking and there is no reason to believethat it doesn't considering intels recent history . That means a good core I7 3600K should O/C to 6ghz.

You can say its just a die shrink all you want. But its like intel said its more than a TOCK. You could say its a SUPER TOCK!

 

[john3850]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-core-i7-3960x-vs-core-i7-990x-benchmarks-leaked/13062.html

 

[exar333]

YA Ya . Its just a die shrink to 22nm . Ya right thats not supported by the available information. If we are to believe intel . And theres is no reason not to / 3D trigate gate brings a 20% clock increase at = power usage . If that applies to overclocking and there is no reason to believethat it doesn't considering intels recent history . That means a good core I7 3600K should O/C to 6ghz.

You can say its just a die shrink all you want. But its like intel said its more than a TOCK. You could say its a SUPER TOCK!

Plus, Intel could release a 6-core @ 3.2Ghz that is <100W part. That would be fantastic. Conceivably, you could also get a 8-core variant in the mid 2ghz range for around the same TDP as well. That would be AWESOME.

 

[pantsaregood]

Die shrinks almost always result in reduced power consumption and increased overclocking headroom. That doesn't make it any less of a die shrink.

The IGP is getting more of a die shrink, though. Regardless, Ivy Bridge isn't going support BCLK overclocking any better than SB does.

 

[Idontcare]

I've always wondered, what sets apart mobos now if we are indeed completely and utterly dependant on unlocked-multi overclocking?

It used to be you paid a premium (in part) for improved engineering of signal traces, which lead to you being able to run at higher HT/FSB/BCLK/etc frequencies.

It will still come down to the quality of the motherboard design and the components used on it, right?

Crappy memory traces, poor voltage regulation, etc, will all still deep-six an overclock effort even when the overclock is being done via multiplier steps.

I had one of those original unlocked multi extreme quads (whatever it was back in Nov 2006, the Q6700X or somesuch?) and the max OC I could get was entirely dependent on the quality of the motherboard I put it in.

Your question is really no different than asking what good is it in having different PSU manufacturers, different DDR3 dimm producers, or different AIB's producing the same class of GPU products...differentiating factors will still be present as each company makes different decisions in terms of cost-savings and feature points.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ya with SB the die shrink showed up really well but not that great on the Intel 32nm release. . As SB was designed for 32nm . As haswell is for 22nm. AMDs 32 on llano doesn't look so good . Not good at all. power hungry and slow.
The BCLK O/C is not a reason to not like intel CPUs. As the multi. O/Cing works just fine on the K models.

 

[DesiPower]

What will people do with so much processing powers on their PCs? Its like everybody driving a Veyron few years down the line.