LG Launches the Optimus Black, worldest thinnest smart phone

Bateluer

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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/0...with-nova-display-worlds-thinnest-smartphone/

Drool. I'm sure that that craptastic TouchWiz-like UI can becorrected with LP/ADW, and later removed with some rooting.

Providing users with a dramatically brighter 4-inch NOVA display in the world’s slimmest 9.2 mm mobile device, LG Optimus Black creates a one-of-a-kind user experience unlike anything before.

Available for the first time in the mobile market, LG Optimus Black’s NOVA display is designed to be the brightest, clearest and most readable among mobile screens with 700 nits of brightness for optimal visibility. LG Optimus Black provides users with an easier and more natural experience when browsing the web, reading emails, or writing documents with higher levels of brightness and pure white tones that deliver true black and white colors for ideal handset viewing. NOVA technology featured on LG Optimus Black also enables users to maintain visibility whether indoors or outdoors under strong sunlight.

In addition to greater luminosity, the NOVA display on LG Optimus Black also radically reduces power consumption by 50 percent during general indoor use compared to a conventional LCD. Similarly, AMOLED consumes twice as much power as NOVA to display a full white screen, the most frequently used color scheme for web browsing. Combined with the 1500 mAh battery of the LG Optimus Black, users will have enough power for their daily needs, even at maximum brightness settings.

Users will never be out of style with the LG Optimus Black’s ultra slim 9.2 mm design. Making a strong visual statement, LG Optimus Black weighs only 109g and offers sleek lines and smooth edges that improve handheld grip. Tapering down to the world’s thinnest smartphone profile of 6.0 mm, LG Optimus Black’s subtle back arch helps to create the illusion of even greater slimness. Unique to the LG Optimus Black, the flush and flawless finish of the front display is achieved by innovatively hiding the Invisible Receiver behind the edges of the phone.

“We are excited to introduce this stylish new Android smartphone and expect the LG Optimus Black to play a key role in the mobile market,” said Dr. Jong-seok Park, President and CEO of LG Electronics Mobile Communications Company. “LG Optimus Black reflects our core strengths of advanced technology, in both display and design, offering the world’s brightest screen and the world’s slimmest design in an attractive and smart package.”

The LG Optimus Black also offers a set of smarter features designed for easy and faster access to important apps and content. Optimus UI 2.0 lets users directly access messages, emails and missed calls from the locked screen with just one single finger tap. The Gesture UI offers more intuitive commands, including lifting, shaking and tapping, for taking calls, entering camera mode, or enjoying music. LG Optimus Black also introduces the world’s first Wi-Fi Direct™ for quick and high-quality data transfer between mobile devices and adopts the world’s first 2MP front-facing camera.

All LG Optimus Black features are available on the Android 2.2 Froyo platform with Android 2.3 Gingerbread upgrade capability. Utilizing the 2MP front-facing camera, LG Optimus Black allows users to utilize video telephony functions of higher quality after upgrading to Android’s Gingerbread.

The LG Optimus Black will be rolled out globally in the first half of 2011..
 

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This is a pretty cool looking phone. At 9.2mm it beats the iPhone4 at 9.3mm in thinness. I'm really interested in the battery life of this device as well considering it has a Tegra2 but a more power efficient screen.
 

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This is a pretty cool looking phone. At 9.2mm it beats the iPhone4 at 9.3mm in thinness. I'm really interested in the battery life of this device as well considering it has a Tegra2 but a more power efficient screen.

If you believe Nvidia's documents, the Tegra 2 has more power consumption than the 45nm Snapdragons and the OMAP 3x00 designs. With a large 1500mah battery, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't get a solid 24 hours out of it. Droid 1 does that pretty easily, and its old.
 

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If you believe Nvidia's documents, the Tegra 2 has more power consumption than the 45nm Snapdragons and the OMAP 3x00 designs. With a large 1500mah battery, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't get a solid 24 hours out of it. Droid 1 does that pretty easily, and its old.

24hrs? I don't think so. There isn't an android smartphone that has that kind of battery life.

1500mah is big, but it's pretty standard now in smartphones. The new moto has a 1900mah battery, now that is big.

If tegra 2 is more power hungry then I'm even more skeptical about their battery claims. The Nova screen would have to be extremely power efficient.
 

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24hrs? I don't think so. There isn't an android smartphone that has that kind of battery life.

1500mah is big, but it's pretty standard now in smartphones. The new moto has a 1900mah battery, now that is big.
I think he meant a max of 24 hours when you dont do anything with it. And if my Droid is any indication thats about right.
I hate having to charge the thing all the time, but I have yet to see a decent phone that also has decent battery life. The best I saw was on my Nokia 1221, and that sucker was only good for phone calls and maybe the alarm clock. It served no other function. Amazes me how phones themselves get more functional yet it never occurs to the engineers that you may actually wanna use the damn thing from time to time.
In fact as big as the Droid is and as small as the battery is, they could have tilted the thing sideways and put two batteries in there. But they didnt.
 

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1H 2011? That means by the time it comes out it won't actually be the thinnest. The mega-screen Samsung is 1Q and even thinner. Fail.
 

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24hrs? I don't think so. There isn't an android smartphone that has that kind of battery life.

Droid 1 routinely hits 30hrs for me, provided I'm using my SetCPU profiles. There's some tweaking to get it past the 24 hour market, but its pretty easy to do. If the community can do it, no clue why the manufacturer with all their resources couldn't do it.

Tegra's thermal envelope is identical today's SoCs, so with a more efficient screen and larger battery, why would you expect less battery life? Makes no sense. :p
 

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Tegra's thermal envelope is identical today's SoCs
Is this correct? Afaik Tegra2 doesn't include the modem, so is the power requirement of that figured into this equivalence?

Edit: pretty sure this ISN'T Tegra2. Only the 2x is.
 

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I think he meant a max of 24 hours when you dont do anything with it. And if my Droid is any indication thats about right.
I hate having to charge the thing all the time, but I have yet to see a decent phone that also has decent battery life. The best I saw was on my Nokia 1221, and that sucker was only good for phone calls and maybe the alarm clock. It served no other function. Amazes me how phones themselves get more functional yet it never occurs to the engineers that you may actually wanna use the damn thing from time to time.
In fact as big as the Droid is and as small as the battery is, they could have tilted the thing sideways and put two batteries in there. But they didnt.

24 hours when you don't do anything? My DroidX running gummyjar would last like 5 days if I just left it there and didn't touch it (it's about 10-20% battery/day depending on how many emails/messages it receives).

If I don't use GPS, I can easily get 1.5/2 days worth when I actually use the phone.
 

Bateluer

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Is this correct? Afaik Tegra2 doesn't include the modem, so is the power requirement of that figured into this equivalence?

Edit: pretty sure this ISN'T Tegra2. Only the 2x is.

True, its speculation. Tegra is the only dual core SoC that seems to be production ready AFAIK, and LG's already shipping a Tegra phone in the 2X.


It is .1mm thinner. Is that even noticeable to the average hand?

MotionMan

Doubt it, but still thinner than my Droid 1.


24 hours when you don't do anything? My DroidX running gummyjar would last like 5 days if I just left it there and didn't touch it (it's about 10-20% battery/day depending on how many emails/messages it receives).

If I don't use GPS, I can easily get 1.5/2 days worth when I actually use the phone.

If I do very little with my D1, and turn off 3G data, getting 3+ days is pretty easy. Severely reduced effectiveness, no browsing, emails or IMs really. But it will send/receive calls easily enough. With 3G data on, a constant connection to Gtalk, push emails, and hourly twitter updates and some light(~30min) web browsing, I still go past 24 hours on a daily basis.

On the opposite side of the coin, if I have extended conversation via Gtalk, where the screen is on for the entire duration of the conversation, it drops to 15-18 hours. Still usable because I have a charger at my desk at work and home, and a car charger if needed. Haven't used the car charger in a long time though, nor have I had a need to charge at work either.
 

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It is .1mm thinner. Is that even noticeable to the average hand?

MotionMan

Noticeable in hand? Maybe if you have small hands. Kind of like a .1" larger screen is more noticeable. Smaller things are more sensitive to smaller weight and size changes.
 

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Droid 1 routinely hits 30hrs for me, provided I'm using my SetCPU profiles. There's some tweaking to get it past the 24 hour market, but its pretty easy to do. If the community can do it, no clue why the manufacturer with all their resources couldn't do it.

If your droid 1 lasts a day, my iPhone4 would last 2 days if I barely used it too. The idea here is battery life under heavy usage. AFAIK Apple is the only manufacturer that displays true battery life.

Tegra's thermal envelope is identical today's SoCs, so with a more efficient screen and larger battery, why would you expect less battery life? Makes no sense. :p

I was just basing my claims off of you saying it consumed more power in your previous post. In any case, I'll wait and see if the device can truely meet it's battery life claims.
 

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If your droid 1 lasts a day, my iPhone4 would last 2 days if I barely used it too. The idea here is battery life under heavy usage. AFAIK Apple is the only manufacturer that displays true battery life.

Apple's got very impressive battery life, but they do with aggressive clock throttling and limited multitasking. Small distinction for most people though. Battery life and power management should be made a priority for future Android versions. A user shouldn't need to root and flash custom kernels to optimize their battery life.

I was just basing my claims off of you saying it consumed more power in your previous post. In any case, I'll wait and see if the device can truely meet it's battery life claims.

My mistake, I meant to say 'more efficient power consumption'. Nvidia's white papers claim the Tegra 2 has lower TDP than their competitors. It wouldn't serve their business very well for them to lie about how much power their SoC takes, it would causing all kinds of engineering problems with other companies wanting to use Tegra. Hard to design cooling solutions, chassis, and battery needs if you don't have accurate information.
 

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True, its speculation. Tegra is the only dual core SoC that seems to be production ready AFAIK, and LG's already shipping a Tegra phone in the 2X.
Yeah, but my point is that the 2x is the only true high-end phone LG is making. This is a midrange with looks -- single-core.
 

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24hrs? I don't think so. There isn't an android smartphone that has that kind of battery life.

1500mah is big, but it's pretty standard now in smartphones. The new moto has a 1900mah battery, now that is big.

If tegra 2 is more power hungry then I'm even more skeptical about their battery claims. The Nova screen would have to be extremely power efficient.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18646596@N02/5323949255/

um, 42% left 22+ hours. its very possible with a stock battery. This is with "normal" usage at work, some angry birds, emails, texts, etc, the normal phone usage.

This is on the EVO
 
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/18646596@N02/5323949255/

um, 42% left 22+ hours. its very possible with a stock battery. This is with "normal" usage at work, some angry birds, emails, texts, etc, the normal phone usage.

This is on the EVO

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3826/motorola-droid-x-thoroughly-reviewed/18

The numbers don't lie. When I'm referring to battery life, I'm talking about constant heavy usage on a stock phone. When Anand tests battery life he leaves it constantly running, this is the only real way to test real world battery life.
 

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Why are people discussing Tegra when te Black will be a singe core.
Its the 2x that will sport a Tegra and it will be 4.3" vs the 4" for the black.
I would summerize the Black as an improved Vibrant.
Looks to be the exact same size as the Vibrant except a little thinner.
A little faster, has flash, probably working GPS, and maybe a better screen ??
 

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Why are people discussing Tegra when te Black will be a singe core.
Its the 2x that will sport a Tegra and it will be 4.3" vs the 4" for the black.
I would summerize the Black as an improved Vibrant.
Looks to be the exact same size as the Vibrant except a little thinner.
A little faster, has flash, probably working GPS, and maybe a better screen ??

Thats still a massive improvement, especially if LG can deliver timely OS updates. I'm almost positive that the 2X will debut in the US as well.
 

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Thats still a massive improvement, especially if LG can deliver timely OS updates. I'm almost positive that the 2X will debut in the US as well.

Nothing wrong with that.
Vibrant is a favorite of mine minus no flash and GPS issue.
The Black improves it on all aspects.