Lexus isn't even on the list for top 10 luxo cars of 2003

[bozack]

If this is a repost either lock it or eat it

here is the link:

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4019410&src=Luxury+CarsCategory

Here is the complete list of the most popular luxury cars on MSN Autos for 2003:


BMW 3-Series
Infiniti G35
BMW 5-Series
BMW 7-Series
Acura TL
Audi A4
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac XLR
Maybach
Bentley Arnage

 

[Sluggo]

Maybach

I saw those on TV the other day (Speed channel I think) they are sweet. Perfect car for a long road trip.

 

[krunchykrome]

Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

 

[Eug]

BMW 3 series? They are nice cars and all, but they aren't all that high end. I guess it makes sense though. Low-end luxury and cheap enough for people to buy it.

 

[bozack]

this is a list of the top 10 most popular luxo cars of 2003...read the article it is ok.

The most popular luxury cars on MSN Autos, based on monthly visits to the site's vehicle research pages.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Eug
BMW 3 series? They are nice cars and all, but they aren't all that high end. I guess it makes sense though. Low-end luxury and cheap enough for people to buy it.

 

[BigSmooth]

Edmunds.com top 50 most researched cars.
The RX330 is the only Lexus in the top 50.

All this means is that, in general, Lexus buyers do not research the cars on the internet. That's not terribly surprising given their demographics.

 

[kag]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

The most popular luxury cars on MSN Autos, based on monthly visits to the site's vehicle research pages.

Those are just the most researched cars.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Eug
BMW 3 series? They are nice cars and all, but they aren't all that high end. I guess it makes sense though. Low-end luxury and cheap enough for people to buy it.

Actually, I agree as well. The 3 series is not "luxury" (nowhere close to the 5 series in that regard). Just because it's relatively expensive and "prestigious", doesn't make it a true luxury car.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

I expect that much from people WHO DON'T KNOW.

The LS430 is FAR, FAR FAR MORE LUXURIOUS and comfortable than ANY CAR UNDER 150K. I can't go beyond 150K cuz i've never sat in another one or driven one. But I have been in 7 series BMW's and MANY, MANY S500's. I know about 30 people who have S500's. Believe me, the Lexus LS430 is way more luxurious and way more comfortable. The MB command system is too hard to use and not as good as lexus's navi. The seats in the Lexus are far more comfortable. With the Ultra Luxury package, the LS430 has MASSAGING AND HEATING AND COOLING seats in the front and back seats, an air conditioned soft drink compartment in the back seat, and smart key access is optional. With this feature, you don't need to unlock your doors. As soon as you walk towards your car, it 'senses' it, and automatically unlocks your doors for you, and even starts the car. The internal cabine noise is quiter in the LS430, the ride is smoother....

LUXURY = LEXUS

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

I expect that much from people WHO DON'T KNOW.

The LS430 is FAR, FAR FAR MORE LUXURIOUS and comfortable than ANY CAR UNDER 150K. I can't go beyond 150K cuz i've never sat in another one or driven one. But I have been in 7 series BMW's and MANY, MANY S500's. I know about 30 people who have S500's. Believe me, the Lexus LS430 is way more luxurious and way more comfortable. The MB command system is too hard to use and not as good as lexus's navi. The seats in the Lexus are far more comfortable. With the Ultra Luxury package, the LS430 has MASSAGING AND HEATING AND COOLING seats in the front and back seats, an air conditioned soft drink compartment in the back seat, and smart key access is optional. With this feature, you don't need to unlock your doors. As soon as you walk towards your car, it 'senses' it, and automatically unlocks your doors for you, and even starts the car. The internal cabine noise is quiter in the LS430, the ride is smoother....

LUXURY = LEXUS

Yup, that also applies to lower end luxury cars. When we were looking, we looked at the C and E classes, but the slightly used E cars to fit our price range, and then a new ES330, we all found the ES330 to be nicer, smoother ride, quieter engine, and a bit more luxurious.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

I expect that much from people WHO DON'T KNOW.

The LS430 is FAR, FAR FAR MORE LUXURIOUS and comfortable than ANY CAR UNDER 150K. I can't go beyond 150K cuz i've never sat in another one or driven one. But I have been in 7 series BMW's and MANY, MANY S500's. I know about 30 people who have S500's. Believe me, the Lexus LS430 is way more luxurious and way more comfortable. The MB command system is too hard to use and not as good as lexus's navi. The seats in the Lexus are far more comfortable. With the Ultra Luxury package, the LS430 has MASSAGING AND HEATING AND COOLING seats in the front and back seats, an air conditioned soft drink compartment in the back seat, and smart key access is optional. With this feature, you don't need to unlock your doors. As soon as you walk towards your car, it 'senses' it, and automatically unlocks your doors for you, and even starts the car. The internal cabine noise is quiter in the LS430, the ride is smoother....

LUXURY = LEXUS

Yup, that also applies to lower end luxury cars. When we were looking, we looked at the C and E classes, but the slightly used E cars to fit our price range, and then a new ES330, we all found the ES330 to be nicer, smoother ride, quieter engine, and a bit more luxurious.

my mom's car is a 2000 MB E class, my father's previous car was an S500, and now he just bought a 2004 LS430. I THINK I am qualified to talk about this. Lexus will even pick up your car from your office or home, leave a loaner, do the maintenance/repairs, wash it, and bring it back to your home or office. MB DOESN'T. I DON'T know about anything lower than the Ls430, great if you can talk about it - but i can't. BTW, MB quality is going DOWN. The ML's were just pathetic (Thanks MB for makin' 'em in ALABAMA!!) Thank god my moms was made in bavaria or whatever, but the service is going downhill. It was much better 10 years ago.... sheesh...


I can pretty much sum this up from my parents society (i literally know like 30 'aunties' and 'uncle's that have the S class. for those that don't know, us "injuns" refer to our parents friends as aunties and uncles..)

The wealthy buy the S-Class.
The wealthy that are confident with themselves buy the LS430.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

SherEPunjab, I will I agree with some of your opinions in this thread. your latest post is filled with ignorance

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Mercedes should be on there before Lexus.

I expect that much from people WHO DON'T KNOW.

The LS430 is FAR, FAR FAR MORE LUXURIOUS and comfortable than ANY CAR UNDER 150K. I can't go beyond 150K cuz i've never sat in another one or driven one. But I have been in 7 series BMW's and MANY, MANY S500's. I know about 30 people who have S500's. Believe me, the Lexus LS430 is way more luxurious and way more comfortable. The MB command system is too hard to use and not as good as lexus's navi. The seats in the Lexus are far more comfortable. With the Ultra Luxury package, the LS430 has MASSAGING AND HEATING AND COOLING seats in the front and back seats, an air conditioned soft drink compartment in the back seat, and smart key access is optional. With this feature, you don't need to unlock your doors. As soon as you walk towards your car, it 'senses' it, and automatically unlocks your doors for you, and even starts the car. The internal cabine noise is quiter in the LS430, the ride is smoother....

LUXURY = LEXUS

Audi! Sorry, I just love those cars

But yeah, Lexus have a great line of cars. One thing I've noticed though, at least from Edmunds' reviews, Mercedes tend to be insanely complicated with all of their tech.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SherEPunjab, I will I agree with some of your opinions in this thread. your latest post is filled with ignorance

Have you experienced a new MB? Only someone hung up on prestige would buy that. The service, the resale value, the comfort, the total ownership experience SUCKS. someone hung up on prestige is not confident with themselves, hence one who buys the new s classes are not. nice logic, eh? OKAY, fine, not everyone who buys is insecure, of course, that would be impossible to prove, but i bet A LOT ARE. I have heard this from friends, "Yeah, I know the Lexus is a nicer car, but a MERCEDES IS A MERCEDES... WTF IS THAT???

...and i'm still right about the LS430 being more luxurious...






EDIT: okay there is another variable: looks. my mom did buy a mb because " she liked the looks" BLEH! She regrets it now. I told her to buy a new LS (she had migrated from the LS400 coach ed. to the E CLASS)

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Those are just the most searched for cars on their site

 

[Lifer]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Eug
BMW 3 series? They are nice cars and all, but they aren't all that high end. I guess it makes sense though. Low-end luxury and cheap enough for people to buy it.

Actually, I agree as well. The 3 series is not "luxury" (nowhere close to the 5 series in that regard). Just because it's relatively expensive and "prestigious", doesn't make it a true luxury car.

if the 3 series is not luxury, then neither is the g35.

 

[Lifer]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Those are just the most searched for cars on their site

that's why it's called most popular luxury cars on MSN.
most researched = more popular = more potential that someone will buy

 

[JulesMaximus]

I want to know how an ugly POS Cadillac makes the list twice!!! But Lexus and Mercedes don't? Man, there isn't a Cadillac built today that I would be caught dead in. Fugly, rob the Buick parts bin POS. Never would I own one.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I want to know how an ugly POS Cadillac makes the list twice!!! But Lexus and Mercedes don't? Man, there isn't a Cadillac built today that I would be caught dead in. Fugly, rob the Buick parts bin POS. Never would I own one.

that convertible gifted to the MVP at the superbowl looked kinda cool... as do those Escalades with 22" Lorinsers, 15 Televisions, 4 Playstation 2's, 11 Subwoofers, and 9 switches.

edit: and don't forget the Woo Grane Steery Weel

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

I agree SherEPunjab that MB's quality has gone downhill. Altho I think the new E class redeemed them somewhat. The current S-class is garbage compared to its predecessor.

SherEPunjab: You have some rich uncles/aunties man! The family with the most expensive car I know is my uncle with his Infiniti QX4.

Damn you rich desis!!

 

[LongCoolMother]

the guys who say lexus rocks is correct. my dad has recently been looking to buy a new car around the es330 range. he looked at the acura TL, which was IMMENSELY great. very comfy and awesome for a entry level luxury car. we looked as far as g35s, benz c-classes, audi a4s etc. but lexus provided the most luxury. and by luxury i mean ride comfort, driving comfort, quiteness (i am very serious on this one, i swear the ride was almost near silent, not kidding). now performance wise, lexus obviously isnt up there with the stellar TL, or the outstanding 3 series. However, luxury wise, we were hard pressed to find any ride more luxurious and plush than the lexus.

speaking of the LS430. oh my god. that ride is heavenly. literally almost silent and tooooo smooth. given ive only ridden in BMW 7 series. comparing the current gen 7 to the ls430, the 430 was DEFINATELY more comfortable. as far as reliability/performance is concerned, id say BMW has the edge, and maybe a large advantage. but cmon now, the lexus is comfy as heck. and hell, i know some might disagree, but i think the ls430 is rather beautiful.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
I agree SherEPunjab that MB's quality has gone downhill. Altho I think the new E class redeemed them somewhat. The current S-class is garbage compared to its predecessor.

SherEPunjab: You have some rich uncles/aunties man! The family with the most expensive car I know is my uncle with his Infiniti QX4.

Damn you rich desis!!

i told ya dogg.. the ones down here got more dollas fer some reason. my cuz's up in Canada some of them are struggling. its sad....

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
the guys who say lexus rocks is correct. my dad has recently been looking to buy a new car around the es330 range. he looked at the acura TL, which was IMMENSELY great. very comfy and awesome for a entry level luxury car. we looked as far as g35s, benz c-classes, audi a4s etc. but lexus provided the most luxury. and by luxury i mean ride comfort, driving comfort, quiteness (i am very serious on this one, i swear the ride was almost near silent, not kidding). now performance wise, lexus obviously isnt up there with the stellar TL, or the outstanding 3 series. However, luxury wise, we were hard pressed to find any ride more luxurious and plush than the lexus.

speaking of the LS430. oh my god. that ride is heavenly. literally almost silent and tooooo smooth. given ive only ridden in BMW 7 series. comparing the current gen 7 to the ls430, the 430 was DEFINATELY more comfortable. as far as reliability/performance is concerned, id say BMW has the edge, and maybe a large advantage. but cmon now, the lexus is comfy as heck. and hell, i know some might disagree, but i think the ls430 is rather beautiful.

yeah, btw, any of those choices are fine choices. The new A4's rock, but i'm glad your dad idn't settle for the TL or A4. They are more for young professionals... not for people are parents age... imho, even though I'm a bit partial to the TL . Anyways, hey the Lexus is NOT any less reliable than the BMW. In fact, Lexus is usually known for its reliablity. Toyota makes some of the most reliable cars.