Letter from Iraqi Mayor to 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment

Queasy

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Link - Very good to see these men and women and their families receive such thanks for all their brave work. Per this link they are now returning home to Ft. Carson in Colorado.

In the Name of God the Compassionate and Merciful

To the Courageous Men and Women of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who have changed the city of Tall? Afar from a ghost town, in which terrorists spread death and destruction, to a secure city flourishing with life.

To the lion-hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets for many months.

To those who spread smiles on the faces of our children, and gave us restored hope, through their personal sacrifice and brave fighting, and gave new life to the city after hopelessness darkened our days, and stole our confidence in our ability to reestablish our city.

Our city was the main base of operations for Abu Mousab Al Zarqawi. The city was completely held hostage in the hands of his henchmen. Our schools, governmental services, businesses and offices were closed. Our streets were silent, and no one dared to walk them. Our people were barricaded in their homes out of fear; death awaited them around every corner. Terrorists occupied and controlled the only hospital in the city. Their savagery reached such a level that they stuffed the corpses of children with explosives and tossed them into the streets in order to kill grieving parents attempting to retrieve the bodies of their young. This was the situation of our city until God prepared and delivered unto them the courageous soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who liberated this city, ridding it of Zarqawi?s followers after harsh fighting, killing many terrorists, and forcing the remaining butchers to flee the city like rats to the surrounding areas, where the bravery of other 3d ACR soldiers in Sinjar, Rabiah, Zumar and Avgani finally destroyed them.

I have met many soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment; they are not only courageous men and women, but avenging angels sent by The God Himself to fight the evil of terrorism.

The leaders of this Regiment; COL McMaster, COL Armstrong, LTC Hickey, LTC Gibson, and LTC Reilly embody courage, strength, vision and wisdom. Officers and soldiers alike bristle with the confidence and character of knights in a bygone era. The mission they have accomplished, by means of a unique military operation, stands among the finest military feats to date in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and truly deserves to be studied in military science. This military operation was clean, with little collateral damage, despite the ferocity of the enemy. With the skill and precision of surgeons they dealt with the terrorist cancers in the city without causing unnecessary damage.

God bless this brave Regiment; God bless the families who dedicated these brave men and women. From the bottom of our hearts we thank the families. They have given us something we will never forget. To the families of those who have given their holy blood for our land, we all bow to you in reverence and to the souls of your loved ones. Their sacrifice was not in vain. They are not dead, but alive, and their souls hovering around us every second of every minute. They will never be forgotten for giving their precious lives. They have sacrificed that which is most valuable. We see them in the smile of every child, and in every flower growing in this land. Let America, their families, and the world be proud of their sacrifice for humanity and life.

Finally, no matter how much I write or speak about this brave Regiment, I haven?t the words to describe the courage of its officers and soldiers. I pray to God to grant happiness and health to these legendary heroes and their brave families.

NAJIM ABDULLAH ABID AL-JIBOURI
Mayor of Tall 'Afar, Ninewa, Iraq

edit (since there are some that are saying this is possibly false): Here is a link to a military briefing mentioning the mayor from this city.
GEN. LYNCH: I'd ask you to stop with Major Glenn (sp) and get a copy of the letter that the mayor of Tall Afar sent to General Casey. And I'd like to share with you excepts from that letter, which reflects the appreciative nature of the people of Iraq for operations that were conducted to liberate them and provide an environment where they could participate in a democratic society and participate in the elections in a safe and secure environment. This is the letter from the mayor of Tall Afar, Najim Abdullah al-Jubouri, and he talks to General Casey specifically. And you'll get a copy of the letter, but I'd like to read a couple of excerpts.



He wrote to General Casey that "our city was overrun by heartless terrorists, Zarqawi and his followers, who unloaded their bloodthirsty and voracious action of evil on this city for several months by indiscriminately killing men, women and children. Tall Afar was a human slaughterhouse. Simple services were not possible, causing the people to suffer, till the day you dispatched your troops, who were our lion-hearted saviors. Your troops came to rescue Tall Afar led by our heroes, whom Tall Afar will never forget. After the major operation, your wonderful soldiers started nursing the wounds of this city by rebuilding the damaged lives and buildings with great compassion and speed. These soldiers have done more than their original mission required of them. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts."

So a letter was at least sent to this General Casey. I'll see if anymore proof of the letter to the 3rd Cav can be found.

Update: PDF Link to earlier letter to General Casey
 

themusgrat

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Good. No matter if it was right or wrong for Bush to send them in, they are heroes and deserve all our thanks. They helped a lot of people. :thumbsup:
 

Rainsford

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Hmm, am I the only person who's BS detector is going off? I have no doubt that there are people in Iraq that appreciate what some of our soldiers have done, but the wording of this letter sounds more like one of those fantasy support letters you see cropping up in conservative circles on the internet. I could be wrong, of course, but it seems interesting to me that the ONLY references to this letter are conservative blog type sites, including the always trustworthy freerepublic. Not one reputable news source picked it up, despite the fact that every conservative with a computer is posting it.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: themusgrat
Good. No matter if it was right or wrong for Bush to send them in, they are heroes and deserve all our thanks. They helped a lot of people. :thumbsup:

I agree, I'm just not sure THIS is an example of that thanks.
 

techs

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I do not believe any of this is true. It may be, but you have supplied NO proof. Just a letter posted on a site where the "letter" seems to serve the sites purpose.
Even on the site it is attributed to an "email" someone received.
For all we know this is completely bogus.
Prove to me its true and I'll eat my words.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: techs
I do not believe any of this is true. It may be, but you have supplied NO proof. Just a letter posted on a site where the "letter" seems to serve the sites purpose.
Even on the site it is attributed to an "email" someone received.
For all we know this is completely bogus.
Prove to me its true and I'll eat my words.

Is there any evidence to believe it's not true?
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: techs
I do not believe any of this is true. It may be, but you have supplied NO proof. Just a letter posted on a site where the "letter" seems to serve the sites purpose.
Even on the site it is attributed to an "email" someone received.
For all we know this is completely bogus.
Prove to me its true and I'll eat my words.

Is there any evidence to believe it's not true?

Yes. Bush never does anything right, so this must be false. Thus, the thread entitled "Economist: The one thing Bush got right You can doubt without raining on his parade.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: techs
I do not believe any of this is true. It may be, but you have supplied NO proof. Just a letter posted on a site where the "letter" seems to serve the sites purpose.
Even on the site it is attributed to an "email" someone received.
For all we know this is completely bogus.
Prove to me its true and I'll eat my words.

Is there any evidence to believe it's not true?

I'm not sure that's how this works, I like to be as trusting as possible, but when thinks seem hinkey, I like a little proof now and then. And this letter is setting off all the hinkey buttons. No outside confirmation, and the only references to it come from incredibly biased sources. Not proof it's not true, but it's kind of along the lines of someone in a back alley selling me a TV that fell off the back of the truck. Maybe he's telling the truth, but I'd kind of like some sort of confirmation before I go handing over my money.

And no offense, but you guys are stupid not to be suspicious as well. It's exactly the kind of thing you want to hear, and if there's anything to be suspicious of, it's things that sound like exactly what you want to hear.
 

Future Shock

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: techs
I do not believe any of this is true. It may be, but you have supplied NO proof. Just a letter posted on a site where the "letter" seems to serve the sites purpose.
Even on the site it is attributed to an "email" someone received.
For all we know this is completely bogus.
Prove to me its true and I'll eat my words.

Is there any evidence to believe it's not true?


Yes, read Kristof's column today in the NYT. I am quoting ALL of it's relevant sections, includng the ones that praise the overall strategy of invasion (let's see the neo-cons be so open someday):
Here's the single most depressing tidbit I've seen from Iraq lately: a new poll has found that among Sunni Arab Iraqis, 88 percent support violent attacks on U.S. troops.

So at least in the Sunni Triangle, the biggest problem isn't Syria or terrorists like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, but ordinary Sunnis who want to see our soldiers blown up.

So how should we handle this?

First, we should announce unequivocally that we will not keep American military bases in Iraqi territory.

Second, we should announce a target date for the withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces from Iraq ? say, the last day of 2007. Those moves would help to allay Iraqi nationalist suspicions ? at least a little bit ? that the U.S. is simply after Iraqi oil and bases, and would take a bit of the wind out of the insurgency's sails.

The new poll, which was conducted for WorldPublicOpinion.org, had some good news for President Bush. More than three-quarters of the Iraqis said that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth the hardships they'd suffered. And 64 percent said Iraq was now headed in the right direction.

But 80 percent of Iraqis said the U.S. sought permanent military bases in Iraq (frankly, they're right), while 70 percent called for a full U.S. withdrawal within two years.

It's time to listen more carefully to Iraqis, who know their country better than we ever will. In the poll, 64 percent said violent attacks would decrease after the U.S. pulled out. For Sunni Arab Iraqis, who are disproportionately responsible for the violence, that figure is 86 percent. Other polls show roughly the same: Iraqis are suspicious of our intentions, and they want us out.

So I can't comment without more facts about this letter (which is a bit at odds with the quoted popular sentiment found by the linked poll). But 88% of the population seems to have grown very weary of our presense, and wants us gone, and is willing to take violent action against our troops if we do not leave of our own accord.

Future Shock
 

JEDIYoda

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So I can't comment without more facts about this letter (which is a bit at odds with the quoted popular sentiment found by the linked poll). But 88% of the population seems to have grown very weary of our presense, and wants us gone, and is willing to take violent action against our troops if we do not leave of our own accord.

proof.......links.....
88% just a guess or a accurate figure from a source??

I can`t comment on your statement without more facts....
is there a basis for truth?

Things that make you go hmmmmm
 

Future Shock

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So I can't comment without more facts about this letter (which is a bit at odds with the quoted popular sentiment found by the linked poll). But 88% of the population seems to have grown very weary of our presense, and wants us gone, and is willing to take violent action against our troops if we do not leave of our own accord.

proof.......links.....
88% just a guess or a accurate figure from a source??

I can`t comment on your statement without more facts....
is there a basis for truth?

Things that make you go hmmmmm

As I stated in my post, the original article has a link to WorldPublicOpinion.org if you had bothered to check, where you will find the complete public opinion poll. As cited on WPO, most of the original statstics were gathered by the BBC in a 12/2005 poll. But since you didn't bother to actually RTFA, you would rather cast doubt about it.

Things that make me think of a neo-con humm-job...

Future Shock
 

conjur

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A little more about Al-Joubri:

Regiment's rotation out of Tal Afar raises questions about U.S. strategy
By Joseph L. Galloway
Knight Ridder Newspapers

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashing...template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
TAL AFAR, Iraq - The mayor of this city in western Iraq is unhappy that his friends in the U.S. Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment are going home soon, and he's written to President Bush and Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, begging them to extend the regiment's tour of duty until it's finished pacifying Tal Afar.

The mayor, Najim Abadullah al Jibouri, is a Sunni Muslim Arab and a former officer in Saddam Hussein's army who's not from Tal Afar. The provincial police chief in Mosul last summer appointed him a brigadier general to replace the local police chief, a Shiite who was turning a blind eye to police commando units that were "disappearing" suspected insurgents, all Sunnis. Terrorists had blown up the police stations and driven out most of the policemen who weren't killed. On a U.S. recommendation, he was later promoted to mayor.

Since then, al Jibouri has worked hand in glove with Col. H.R. McMaster, the commander of the 3rd ACR, and Lt. Col. Christopher Hickey, who commands Sabre Squadron, which is based inside Tal Afar. The mayor doesn't want them to leave when their yearlong deployment is over in March.

The regiment's success and the mayor's concern about its departure raise two important questions about America's strategy in Iraq:

The first is whether the American practice of rotating troops in and out of Iraq - typically one-year tours of duty for soldiers and seven months for Marines - may be undermining the fight against Iraq's insurgency.

Limiting tours as the United States did in Vietnam helps relieve stress, support families and maintain morale. It also means that soldiers and Marines who are new to an area have to learn all over again what their predecessors discovered, often the hard way. And it disrupts personal relationships, such as the one al Jibouri has developed with McMaster and Hickey, which are indispensable in Iraq.

Over cups of hot, sweet tea, al Jibouri slyly jabbed at McMaster, a Philadelphia native who commanded a tank company in the 2nd Armored Cavalry in the Gulf War, and Hickey, an Army brat who was born at Fort Bliss, Texas, but grew up everywhere. "For you to leave is like a surgeon leaving in the middle of an operation," he said.

"We don't doubt there are many fine officers in the American army," the mayor explained. "But during these months, Colonel Hickey and I have created a relationship where I know what he will say even before he says it ... and he knows what I will say. We have been through hard times together to forge these bonds. You should finish the job and then you can move on. An incomplete solution isn't a good solution."

The second question is whether the United States has sent enough troops to Iraq to duplicate the 3rd ACR's success in Tal Afar in bigger cities and nationwide. Al Jibouri said the American cavalrymen in Tal Afar had conducted "the best operation in Iraq, with none of the big destruction like in Fallujah."

Tal Afar has some 250,000 people, and the city is relatively remote and self-contained. The 3rd ACR, which has some 4,700 troops, walled off the city and cleared out terrorists and insurgents block by block, which is harder to do in larger cities such as Baghdad and Mosul. It's even more difficult to prevent insurgents who are driven out of cities such as Tal Afar from finding refuge elsewhere.

Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, who commanded the Army's 101st Airborne Division, was given high marks for rebuilding the Mosul area after the 2003 invasion, but community relations soured when his division left and was replaced with a much smaller brigade.

And while violence is way down in Tal Afar compared with last summer, there are only faint signs of reconciliation between the city's competing ethnic groups. Order is enforced by outsiders with a heavy military hand.

McMaster and his troops arrived last summer after Tal Afar suffered 140 terrorist attacks - with mortars, improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and shootings - in June. Today such attacks average about one per day, or 30 in a month.

Tal Afar's people, most of them Turkmens, were bitterly divided between Shiite and Sunni sects of Islam. After the overthrow of Saddam's Sunni-dominated government, some Shiites in the ascendance began to persecute the Sunnis, who are a majority locally. Sunnis counterattacked, and linked up with and sent money to the Sunni-dominated insurgency. While some foreign jihadists entered the city, most fighters were locals or other Iraqis.

Abductions and executions were the order of the day, with beheaded victims thrown into the street at a busy traffic circle in the heart of the city. A young man was killed by the terrorists, al Jibouri said, then disemboweled and his body was stuffed with explosives. When his father came to get the body, the bomb exploded, killing him, too.

The Americans, when they struck back in September, had prepared the battleground carefully. They built a high dirt wall around the city, some three miles by three miles in size, and blocked roads to isolate the worst neighborhoods.

McMaster said Tal Afar is unusually compact for an Iraqi city, making it practical to wall off the area. The city sits astride key infiltration and smuggling routes from Syria to Mosul and the north. Insurgents were using it as a training camp and housing area.

After constructing the berm, U.S. forces, with Iraqi army and police, evacuated the city's residents, funneling them down a controlled route to a holding camp. U.S. troops then accompanied Iraqi forces in house-to-house searches, using pinpoint artillery and air attacks on houses where they encountered resistance. Real-time video provided by unmanned aerial vehicles was combined with old-fashioned whispered tips from neighbors to choose the targets.

While there was some collateral damage, it was nothing close to the scale of the combined Marine and Army assault on Fallujah in November 2004. Hundreds of the enemy were killed, the mayor said, and hundreds more were caught in the net - some dressed in women's clothes with their beards shaved off in a desperate attempt to get away.

Then the Americans, the mayor, a new chief of police and an emboldened Iraqi army division began the long, hard work of pacifying a frightened city and restoring some semblance of law and order.

How well have they succeeded?

"Go look in our city," the mayor said. "The children run after the American officers. They know their names. These men are heroes in Tal Afar."

Success in clearing insurgents from the streets also has stoked the Iraqi forces' self-confidence, U.S. officers say, and their capabilities have improved markedly.

On Sunday, a dozen Sunni and Shiite tribal leaders sat down with the mayor at the city's ancient castle, the first such meeting in several years. They said they'd meet again for dinner at some future date to continue their dialogue.

At the same time, however, shops remain shuttered on the major thoroughfare that divides Sunni and Shiite neighborhoods, and the owners are fearful of reopening. Residents often are still afraid to leave their neighborhoods.

McMaster did his best to assure the mayor that the 1st Brigade of the 1st Armored Division, which will be replacing his cavalry regiment, is commanded by a friend who's "a superb officer well suited to the job." He added that the battalion commander who'll succeed Hickey in the city "is more than equal to the task" and adds that he's a Rhodes scholar.

When McMaster said the mayor's idea of extending his cavalrymen's 12-month tour in Iraq would "disappoint 5,000 families," the mayor responded: "I offer my sincere thanks to these American families. I think if they understood what you are doing here they would let you stay."

The next morning, Hickey was back out in the streets, stopping his Bradley fighting vehicle to get out with his translator and talk to men in a poor Shia neighborhood.

A young man, who hobbled along on a crutch, complained that he was afraid to go to the city hospital to have the metal brace and screws that pinned his broken leg together six months ago removed. He said that there were terrorists all around it.

Hickey explained that was six months ago; today, the Iraqi police control that area, and it's safe and secure and free of terrorists. Scores of young and old pressing around to listen were as skeptical as the young man with the crutch was.

Hickey offered the Iraqi a ride to the hospital in his Bradley. There he was met by the police precinct commander and the chief physician at the hospital. He was assured a ride home with the now-friendly police after his X-ray was taken and it was determined that he'd have to go to Mosul to have a specialist remove the medical device that should have been removed months before.

Hickey hopes that the young man will pass the word to his neighbors that it's safe to go to the hospital, that, yes, they do surgery there and deliver babies and the police are helpful, not threatening.

Progress in counter-insurgencies is often measured in such small, hobbling steps.

So, Al-Joubri is pissed that fellow Sunnis have been under attack from police commando units, likely some payback for years of Sunni oppression. He's scared for his own skin and wants the US to protect him.


Sorry. You're on your own, Al-Joubri. Our boys need to come home. NOW.
 

techs

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Wow. Another phony letter.
This thread takes the prize for the most deceitful ever posted on ATOT.
Not one, but TWO completely undocumented letters taken from a biased site with NO confirmation.
Excuse me while I barf over your pathetic attempt to use propaganda to further your flawed reasonings on Iraq.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: techs
Wow. Another phony letter.
This thread takes the prize for the most deceitful ever posted on ATOT.
Not one, but TWO completely undocumented letters taken from a biased site with NO confirmation.
Excuse me while I barf over your pathetic attempt to use propaganda to further your flawed reasonings on Iraq.

You're just a sad sad little man aren't you? The second letter is mentioned in the military briefing link I included in the OP.
 

jlmadyson

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: techs
Wow. Another phony letter.
This thread takes the prize for the most deceitful ever posted on ATOT.
Not one, but TWO completely undocumented letters taken from a biased site with NO confirmation.
Excuse me while I barf over your pathetic attempt to use propaganda to further your flawed reasonings on Iraq.

You're just a sad sad little man aren't you? The second letter is mentioned in the military briefing link I included in the OP.

Text

Here is an independent source with it as well. It is, of course, something else so many doubt the authenticity of this letter, but not totally surprising.
 

Andrew M Winter

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This is a long time coming, but I have to do this.
That letter was NOT a Fake. This article in the New York Post tells the origins.


The Letter was distributed by Gen. George Casey who was the Commander of "Multi-National-Force Iraq at that time, and the next year became US Army Chief of Staff.
.

The existence of the letter was confirmed, in that NY Post article, by Colonel H.R.McMaster at the request of the author of the article. McMaster was the C.O. of 3rd ACR in Tal Afar whose troops earned that letter of thanks.

It took just a little digging, why didn't anyone do that at the time instead of just insisting without proof that it was false? Why do so many people so hate America that they wouldn't just go and look?

Shame on the LOT of you.
 

JD50

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This is a long time coming, but I have to do this.
That letter was NOT a Fake. This article in the New York Post tells the origins.


The Letter was distributed by Gen. George Casey who was the Commander of "Multi-National-Force Iraq at that time, and the next year became US Army Chief of Staff.
.

The existence of the letter was confirmed, in that NY Post article, by Colonel H.R.McMaster at the request of the author of the article. McMaster was the C.O. of 3rd ACR in Tal Afar whose troops earned that letter of thanks.

It took just a little digging, why didn't anyone do that at the time instead of just insisting without proof that it was false? Why do so many people so hate America that they wouldn't just go and look?

Shame on the LOT of you.

WWYBYWB?
 

brycejones

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This is a long time coming, but I have to do this.
That letter was NOT a Fake. This article in the New York Post tells the origins.


The Letter was distributed by Gen. George Casey who was the Commander of "Multi-National-Force Iraq at that time, and the next year became US Army Chief of Staff.
.

The existence of the letter was confirmed, in that NY Post article, by Colonel H.R.McMaster at the request of the author of the article. McMaster was the C.O. of 3rd ACR in Tal Afar whose troops earned that letter of thanks.

It took just a little digging, why didn't anyone do that at the time instead of just insisting without proof that it was false? Why do so many people so hate America that they wouldn't just go and look?

Shame on the LOT of you.
Rolling with the NY Post as a source. LOL

I honestly have no opinion on the subject of the thread, but the NY Post is a shit source in general.
 
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This is a long time coming, but I have to do this.
That letter was NOT a Fake. This article in the New York Post tells the origins.


The Letter was distributed by Gen. George Casey who was the Commander of "Multi-National-Force Iraq at that time, and the next year became US Army Chief of Staff.
.

The existence of the letter was confirmed, in that NY Post article, by Colonel H.R.McMaster at the request of the author of the article. McMaster was the C.O. of 3rd ACR in Tal Afar whose troops earned that letter of thanks.

It took just a little digging, why didn't anyone do that at the time instead of just insisting without proof that it was false? Why do so many people so hate America that they wouldn't just go and look?

Shame on the LOT of you.
Yeah why didn't anyone prior to the date of this article post it before it was published?

You went through all that effort and didn't even look at the dates?

The shame is not upon us good sir.
 
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