Let's talk build quality

MrX8503

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Not many reviews (or any) go into deep discussions about build quality. So I felt the need for this thread. To be clear, I'm not talking about durability, we have rugged devices for that. This thread is about quality pertaining to precision, detail, and advance manufacturing processes.

I think we're lucky to see this kind of quality in gadgets and I don't think there's any consumer product that breeds new manufacturing processes like gadgets do.

The usual suspects below:

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2013 N7: Its the best bang for your buck tablet bar none. This serves as a good baseline for looking at quality. Above you see the large plastic gasket around the screen of where it meets the body. We'll use this as a reference for the other devices.

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HTC One: Kudos to HTC for pushing the bar. HTC likes to talk about "zero gap" and it means exactly that. To achieve this zero gap, they poured plastic into the gaps of the aluminum body. What you get is direct contact and zero gaps. However, plastic is used to achieve this and makes it a little less impressive. The screen here also has a plastic gasket except the areas of where it meets the aluminum speaker grills.

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iPhone5: Here we again see a plastic gasket around the entire perimeter of the screen. The back side of the phone we can see the gap between the glass pane and aluminum body. In the iPhone 5 manufacturing video, Jony Ive narrates that they use high powered cameras to match 725 cuts of glass. Unfortunately, we're still seeing gaps here.

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iPad Mini: No plastic screen gasket, superb. Gaps are still present, but its a very tight fitting device (smaller gap than the 5) with no plastic on any part of the body except the home button. iPad1-iPad4 all have plastic gaskets (iPad1 has a rubber gasket) and the iPad mini is their first tablet to forgo this plastic piece. The screen and body of the mini reminds me of a finely crafted watch.

Any other devices that exhibit exceptional build quality? Post them here.
 
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ponyo

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I don't know about build quality but I wished the 5s fingerprint sensor worked for more than one day before having to reprogram it.
 

blairharrington

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The slate iPhone 5 was an abomination. It picked up scuffs like crazy even with the greatest care. There is a reason that slate was not offered for the 5S.

I'm also not a fan of any smartphone with a flat back. If you try to go caseless it makes it really awkward to hold in your hand during calls and to pick up off a flat surface. Even something with a slightly curved backing like the 5C is better in this regard. Thankfully most smartphones don't follow the iPhone 5/5S choice of flat backing.
 

Ravynmagi

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I don't think of a plastic gasket around glass to be an indication of inferior build quality. As long as it's done right, and it seems to be done very well in every case listed here. The Nexus 7 2012 (last year's model) was definitely an example of some poor build quality, but the 2013 edition definitely fixed those issues.

Plastic isn't evil. :)

What is evil though are those buttons on the Nexus 7 2013.
 

thedosbox

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I love my Nokia :awe:

My E71 was a tank ;)

To be more serious, dismissing durability as the realm of rugged devices is a poor starting point for discussion. These are mobile devices, and need to be able to survive moderate mishandling without a case.
 

MrX8503

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I don't think of a plastic gasket around glass to be an indication of inferior build quality. As long as it's done right, and it seems to be done very well in every case listed here. The Nexus 7 2012 (last year's model) was definitely an example of some poor build quality, but the 2013 edition definitely fixed those issues.

Plastic isn't evil. :)

What is evil though are those buttons on the Nexus 7 2013.

I'm not saying the other devices suck, I'm saying that the mini has a build quality few understand or appreciate. The gaskets are there to merge the two pieces together without having large gaps. The mini not using this gasket is a testament to its very precise manufacturing process. Getting two rigid materials (glass and aluminum) to meet without the use of a malleable material is difficult.


I've only owned the Lumia 520. But dang, this is the most amazingly built $100 phone on the planet. So I can only imagine what their higher end stuff must be like.

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Nokia 920: I've held it in my hand and it's quite heavy. I haven't inspected it closely but I like the one piece wrap around plastic. Kind of reminds me of the unibody plastic OneX. I'm not sure if I would classify it as exceptional though.
 
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Oyeve

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We tire of your Apple love thinly veiled as it is.


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To be honest the iPhone 5 just feels great in hand. I'm not talking about the size, but the build and the solidness of it.

I handed the Nexus 5 around the table the other day and no one was impressed by the build. A few were iFans, but I was mainly trying to convince people that the Nexus 5 > Moto X because someone was showing off their new Moto X. People seemed to appreciate the 4.7" form factor and the fact that the Moto X is a nicer size to hold. Mind you this is a table of 5 guys and 2 girls. Not only that they were saying the weight and feel just wasn't there of a premium phone.

I was pretty disappointed but when I went home and sat there with my iPhone 5 in one hand and Nexus 5 in the other, I can see what people mean by build quality.
 

ponyo

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To be honest the iPhone 5 just feels great in hand. I'm not talking about the size, but the build and the solidness of it.

I handed the Nexus 5 around the table the other day and no one was impressed by the build. A few were iFans, but I was mainly trying to convince people that the Nexus 5 > Moto X because someone was showing off their new Moto X. People seemed to appreciate the 4.7" form factor and the fact that the Moto X is a nicer size to hold. Mind you this is a table of 5 guys and 2 girls. Not only that they were saying the weight and feel just wasn't there of a premium phone.

I was pretty disappointed but when I went home and sat there with my iPhone 5 in one hand and Nexus 5 in the other, I can see what people mean by build quality.

I have complete opposite opinion of the iPhone 5/5s feel in hand. The sharp thin aluminum metal lines makes it very uncomfortable to hold and it actually feels rough in hand because of it. It feels solid but doesn't feel good at all holding the phone because of the machined edged metal. I put a TPU case on the 5s because the rubber actually feels better in hand.

Also, I'm disappointed in the accuracy of the fingerprint sensor like I mentioned above. The fingerprint sensor works great the first day you calibrate it. But after a day or two, it keeps getting worse til it will fail to read 100% of the time. So I have to calibrate it again. And it works for short time before the same thing happens. That to me is poor build quality. That should not happen.
 

MrX8503

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To be honest the iPhone 5 just feels great in hand. I'm not talking about the size, but the build and the solidness of it.

To me the 5 feels really nice, but it is uncomfortable due to the sharp edges. The same could be said for their MBP line. I wouldn't change the build though as I can live with the edges and it does look slick.
 

Puddle Jumper

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What is the point of this thread?

Apple fans can't gloat about pixel density, touch sensitivity, camera quality, or performance anymore since other companies have surpassed them in all of those metrics so this is all they have left.
 

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HTC 8X is probably one of the best feeling phones I've held. I like the width, weight, curve of the back and the texture on it. Just a great phone. I also really like the Moto X. Feels solid, great palm feel and easy to use.
 

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My Lumia 920 has been dropped down a flight of stairs and landed on the concrete at the bottom, dropped onto concrete as I got out of a car, and launched out of my pocket up to head height and landed on concrete. I don't use a case, and there's no visible damage to the screen or body.

Granted, this is nothing. Some guy had his Lumia 920 crushed by four cars. It cracked the corner of the plastic case, but didn't damage the screen, and the phone still worked fine.
 

notposting

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My Lumia 920 has been dropped down a flight of stairs and landed on the concrete at the bottom, dropped onto concrete as I got out of a car, and launched out of my pocket up to head height and landed on concrete. I don't use a case, and there's no visible damage to the screen or body.

Granted, this is nothing. Some guy had his Lumia 920 crushed by four cars. It cracked the corner of the plastic case, but didn't damage the screen, and the phone still worked fine.

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-800-survives-three-and-half-month-dive-lake

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WelshBloke

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To be more serious, dismissing durability as the realm of rugged devices is a poor starting point for discussion. These are mobile devices, and need to be able to survive moderate mishandling without a case.

It's not a poor starting point if you're trying to frame the discussion to make a particular point.

But yeah, it's a poor starting point if you're trying to have an honest discussion.