Let's talk about bread

bandXtrb

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Help me clear up some misconceptions about bread and the foods in the grains category.

Someone once told me that bread will make you "blow up"? Isn't hard to imagine, since bread has the volume. However, I read that it has a low fat density - and the labels on products lead me to belive that. So, it shoudl a be friendly food to those who are dieting to lose weight, such as myself.

Now I remember in a recent thread someone was saying something negative about white bread and/or white flour. Should we go for "whole grain" or "whole wheat" type breads and what are the advantages?
 

kru

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for some reason i entered this thread thinking of the "Butter" one... ;)


as for bread helping you to lose weight....my friend dropped about twenty pounds over six months simply by cutting all bread out of his diet. he'd eat just hamburger or ground turkey patties without the buns, etc.
 

Moonbeam

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If you fill an oxygen rich atmosphere with bread flour and light a flame, it will definitely blow you up.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Alienwho
carbohydrates make you blimp up. Take a look at the atkins diet threads.
only if you, like far too many americans, are eating too many of them
 

bandXtrb

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Yes, bread has carbs, but if you limit your caloric intake in your diet to a point where you should be losing weight, would there be any reason you wouldn't if your diet contains a good amount of bread?
 

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I personally don't eat bread...see atkins diet threads, but my dogs love it. They get to share two pieces everymorning and they love it. I once gave the big one(purebred black lab female) a choice of bread and hamburger, she sniffed the burg and wolfed down the bread....go figure
 

luv2chill

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carbs are bad mmkay?

Seriously, do not look to bread to help you lose weight. It's like the myth of "low fat cookies" or other "low fat products". Anything that's reduced fat is pumped FULL of carbs. And carbs can just as easily make you fat (your body converts unused carbs to fat inside your body).

If you're unwilling to do the low-carb thing, then go for a more balanced intake of food, whilst keeping a close eye on calories. Cut down on things like bread, pasta, white rice, candy, and other foods super-high in carbs. As long as you're not eating too many calories, you should see some weight loss.

Check into the Zone diet. It basically likens your metabolism to a carbeurator... which needs the perfect mix of fat, carbs, and protein (the three macronutrients) in order to function correctly.

Good luck.

l2c
 

bandXtrb

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Hmm.. So even if I count my calories, and its lower than what I'd normally need, I still wouldn't lose weight with a diet that includes a decent amount of bread? And this is because of the carbs? Please clarify.
 

yakko

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If you fill an oxygen rich atmosphere with bread flour and light a flame, it will definitely blow you up.

Not always. It is more than just filling the atmosphere.
 

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carbs are not bad for you. if you get enough exercise (like your supposed to), you don't have to worry about having carbs in your diet.
its not something you should avoid like saturated fats. the right/healthy way to lose weight is exercise regularly.

atkins will make you lose weight but you can't be on atkins forever, eating correctly is a way of life. so its better to do it the right way the first time instead of expecting to be on atkins until you lose your 10 pounds or whatever.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If you fill an oxygen rich atmosphere with bread flour and light a flame, it will definitely blow you up.

yeah but thats the O2 igniting not the flour.
 

Jgtdragon

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My eyes must be playing tricks on me. I first thought that the title read, "Let's talk about breast." :eek:
 

bandXtrb

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Okay, let me ask this another way. A person is on a 2000 calorie diet. The reccomended daily allowance of fat for this diet is 65g. Now this persons diet consists of person takes in 800 calories in breadstuffs, and 800 more in other areas, totalling 1600 calories. This person should be losing weight, right?
 

her209

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High fiber in your diet is good for metabolism. No wonder asians are so skinny ;)
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: bandXtrb
Hmm.. So even if I count my calories, and its lower than what I'd normally need, I still wouldn't lose weight with a diet that includes a decent amount of bread? And this is because of the carbs? Please clarify.

You're right, it all really boils down to calories. Carbs have come under fire lately because most people eat way too much sugared crap. Ten years ago public enemy #1 was dietary fat, so it all goes in cycles. I guess ten years from now, we'll be bombarded with low-protein diets.
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Whole grains and whole wheat bread tend to have more fiber and lower glycemic indices than their refined counterparts. So they would generally keep you feeling full longer and keep your blood sugar more steady.

If you like bread and can fit it into your reduced calorie plan, eat away.


Originally posted by: bandXtrb
Okay, let me ask this another way. A person is on a 2000 calorie diet. The reccomended daily allowance of fat for this diet is 65g. Now this persons diet consists of person takes in 800 calories in breadstuffs, and 800 more in other areas, totalling 1600 calories. This person should be losing weight, right?
It depends on how much you burn. If you burn 2500 a day and only consume 2000, you will lose weight (hopefully mostly fat). That would be a 500 cal/day deficit, which over 7 days would give you a 3500 cal deficit and a 1 lb weight loss for the week (1 lb fat = 3500 calories). That's a slow but reasonable way to lose weight.

If you go much beyond a 1000 cal/day deficit, you can lose a lot of muscle. Lifting weights and consuming about 1 gr of protein / lb of bodyweight can help minimize the percentage of muscle that you lose on your diet.