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Brian Stirling

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From the early 90's thru the release of the iPhone the biggest driver in the cell phone industry was making them smaller and cuter. The iPhone openned up new possibilities and we now know that smaller isn't always better. The iPhone was pretty close to the ideal compromise in size but the newer phones from HTC (HD2, Evo) and the obvious improvement in UI they offer show that as close as Apple came with the iPhone they erred a bit on the small side. This is not surprising given the 15 plus years of ever smaller phones that preceded the iPhone.

The Apple lawsuits against HTC are not likely to be successful on the merits and I think Apple knows this but if they can convince enough buyers to shy away from HTC then they buy time to upgrade the iPhone to close the gap with HTC. Now, as I've said before, I doubt the next iPhone will be physically larger and I think the screen resolution may also stay the same but if they change the screen the most likely change will be a higher resolution screen of the same size.

More broadly, smart phones will get bigger following the HTC path and the resolution will also increase. The uP will also get faster and as feature sizes continue to shrink the power needed will either stay the same or decrease. Of course the need for more memory is a constant. I see USB 3.0 and a next gen wifi that simplifies by eliminating the need for bluetooth.

On the OS/software side I see the phone becoming much more like a PC with file folders and the ability to run MS Office. I think the next year or two will see the smart phone become more printer friendly with direct to wifi printer output. The smart phone has made big inroads in the business world but the next push is likely to be in the consumer space. TV/AV remote controls WITHOUT the need for special third party boxes. Games. Operate/monitor machines.


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randomlinh

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Am I the only one who thinks the iPhone is too big? The Hero (and roughly that size) seems optimal. I'd argue for the Pre size even more, but only because it has a keyboard (and I know I'm in the minority for that one).

All the other phones, iPhone included, feel awkward to use as a phone. Are we just moving to everyone walking around w/ headsets? Or just not talking and more mobile device?

Though, with that said, I'll probably get the giant EVO. If I'm going to get a large screen, might as well go all out.
 

Brian Stirling

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Am I the only one who thinks the iPhone is too big? The Hero (and roughly that size) seems optimal. I'd argue for the Pre size even more, but only because it has a keyboard (and I know I'm in the minority for that one).

All the other phones, iPhone included, feel awkward to use as a phone. Are we just moving to everyone walking around w/ headsets? Or just not talking and more mobile device?

Though, with that said, I'll probably get the giant EVO. If I'm going to get a large screen, might as well go all out.

There are advantages to smaller for sure but to get the most out of a smart phone you need a highly capable display and you just cant squeeze that into a small phone. It is interesting that you think the iPhone is too big but am at the same time thinking about getting the even larger Evo.

If you want to watch movies or other video content on your phone it helps to have a larger and higher resolution screen. To extend the value of smart phones beyond business users having the ability to playback high quality video is a plus and having a larger higher resolution display seems obvious.


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shortylickens

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Sadly I agree with the OP.

Also, I agree most smartphones arent great phones. My Droid is actually a hassle to use. Every time you pull it away from your face you have wait a couple seconds for the display to come up. Then you gotta hit the special button if you want the dial pad to come up. Heck, even answering and ending calls is a relative pain.
I miss the basic SEND and END buttons on the G1.

BUT, everything else is top notch and I only make about 1 call per week on average. But I text a dozen times a day and browse the innertubes all the time. Also check news and weather and mail constantly. Phone is overall a win for me.
 

Deeko

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Am I the only one who thinks the iPhone is too big? The Hero (and roughly that size) seems optimal. I'd argue for the Pre size even more, but only because it has a keyboard (and I know I'm in the minority for that one).

All the other phones, iPhone included, feel awkward to use as a phone. Are we just moving to everyone walking around w/ headsets? Or just not talking and more mobile device?

Though, with that said, I'll probably get the giant EVO. If I'm going to get a large screen, might as well go all out.

Yes and no. I actually really like the Palm Pre's form factor. The problem with phones like the Hero is the screens are too damn small for an on screen keyboard. The first phone I've used that had an on screen keyboard big enough to actually be enjoyable (IMO) was the HD2.

So my vote is a little smaller with a keyboard, or big and thin without one.
 

rudeguy

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Sadly I agree with the OP.

Also, I agree most smartphones arent great phones. My Droid is actually a hassle to use. Every time you pull it away from your face you have wait a couple seconds for the display to come up. Then you gotta hit the special button if you want the dial pad to come up. Heck, even answering and ending calls is a relative pain.
I miss the basic SEND and END buttons on the G1.

BUT, everything else is top notch and I only make about 1 call per week on average. But I text a dozen times a day and browse the innertubes all the time. Also check news and weather and mail constantly. Phone is overall a win for me.

once again...myTouch FTW!
I have a send and end button (send also pulls up the dialer). Its also the perfect size. If I have the skin on it, its just a bit too big for my liking. Naked, its just perfect.
 

rudeguy

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seems as though some of these things are coming true already. Who would have thought that HP would buy Palm though?

Bump for review
 

zsdersw

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Though, with that said, I'll probably get the giant EVO. If I'm going to get a large screen, might as well go all out.

Only smartphone with a bigger screen, for now, is the Dell Streak.

My next phone won't have or be the following things:

- A slide-out or flip-open anything
- Mechanical buttons for anything other than sleep/volume
- A screen smaller than 4.3"
- An Apple logo on it
- Underpowered with noticeable lag when performing common tasks
- A poor quality camera without a flash

Whatever fits those criteria early in 2011 will be what I get, regardless of carrier.
 

boomhower

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Only smartphone with a bigger screen, for now, is the Dell Streak.

My next phone won't have or be the following things:

- A slide-out or flip-open anything
- Mechanical buttons for anything other than sleep/volume
- A screen smaller than 4.3"
- An Apple logo on it
- Underpowered with noticeable lag when performing common tasks
- A poor quality camera without a flash

Whatever fits those criteria early in 2011 will be what I get, regardless of carrier.


You just described the EVO.
 

MrX8503

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This is an interesting thread as some things have already come to pass. Here are my predictions.

Carrier Level:
Unlimited data is going away
New Prices for 5GB data
Minutes will be cheap
Data+Text will be really expensive
Android will get more bloatware

Phone Manufacturer Level:
Android, iOS, WP7 will be the top 3
RIM and Symbian will be at the bottom
4"+ Screens
Handheld gaming on a Phone
Video Chat becomes mainstream
No more UI lag
Seamless streaming integration through multiple devices. (ie TV's, DVR's, Computers, etc)
 

MrX8503

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A big mistake, if it happens.

Well its bad for consumers, but I don't see carriers being able to provide unlimited data forever. If they decide to keep unlimited data, its going to be expensive, otherwise I see all carriers moving to a tier pricing plan.

When streaming becomes mainstream (music, tv shows, HD, radio, etc), unlimited is gonna go bye bye.
 

zsdersw

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Well its bad for consumers, but I don't see carriers being able to provide unlimited data forever. If they decide to keep unlimited data, its going to be expensive, otherwise I see all carriers moving to a tier pricing plan.

When streaming becomes mainstream (music, tv shows, HD, radio, etc), unlimited is gonna go bye bye.

Yes, it is bad for consumers. As a consumer myself, I don't really care what hardships unlimited data causes for the carriers. They should adapt to suit my desires. I shouldn't be adapting to suit theirs.
 
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Deeko

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Yes, it is bad for consumers. As a consumer myself, I don't really care what hardships unlimited data causes for the carriers. They should adapt to suit my desires. I shouldn't be adapting to fit theirs.

Then put your money where your mouth is and don't pay for tiered data.

Consumers love to outrage, but it doesn't matter unless they're willing to actually change.
 

MrX8503

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Uh what you do is get grandfathered into an unlimited data package now so you don't have to pay for tier pricing later.
 

MrX8503

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Yay! RIM bashing thread!

I wouldn't say so. I'm just looking at what's happening currently and making my own assumptions.

iOS, Android, Symbian, RIM, WP7, out of all these varying platforms who is really pushing the envelope? Who's the one spending millions/billions and making a considerable effort to be on the forefront of technology?

The only ones I can think of is iOS, Android, and WP7, so I assume they'll be the most successful in the next few years. Even though WinMo6 was shit, WP7 is so wildly different and shows a lot of investment from MS that I see their efforts paying off.

These are things I can't say the same for RIM or Symbian.