Let's hear it for the freezer trick!

[Boztech]

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
I've learned a few important lessons:

1. back it up more frequently
2. RAID it if it is really important
3. WD sucks even worse than remember.

Lesson #4: RAID is not a backup solution.

 

[tyborg]

Lets stop the flaming and flaimbait alike before this thread gets locked...

I'm no expert, but in my opinion RAID could be a good backup solution for everything except damage to the computer itself, I.E. A house/office fire. If a drive peters out though, it works great. As long as it's not RAID 0. RAID 0 sucks for backups.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: tyborg
Lets stop the flaming and flaimbait alike before this thread gets locked...

I'm no expert, but in my opinion RAID could be a good backup solution for everything except damage to the computer itself, I.E. A house/office fire. If a drive peters out though, it works great. As long as it's not RAID 0. RAID 0 sucks for backups.

RAID does NOTHING to protect from the following surprisingly common scenarios:

[*]Accidental deletion - recycle bin can be emptied, disabled, or if drive is shared out recycle bin does not work for UMC resources!

[*]Malware, viruses, and other malicous threats.

[*]Sabatoge - i.e. intentional deletion/destruction of information.

[*]Other - PEBKAC.

As for the freezer trick, great if it works and the data is not of great value and/or importance. If the data is really important, better send it to a real pro and pay for their services.

 

[d3lt4]

If the freezer trick works with hd's it would be really cool (no pun intended) to keep your cp in the fridge. Think how much that would help things out, with overclocking and all.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: NYTRIDR
My point is simply this, you are uneducated and computer illiterate.

:roll:
Pathetic. Is that the best you can do, little man? Grow up.

Here is a link for some basic hdd knowledge:

http://www.linwei.com.tw/en/knowhdd.html

Pay special attention to the paragraph where they write about arm jitters.

Because the Arm needs to move back and forth in high speed without jittering and move back to the original position precisely, the Head must be perpendicular without any deviation (limited to 0.001% of the diameter of a hair). The Head and the Media can not be loose or have skew angle, or else track following will be impossible. The technologies nowadays are not able to make the Head or the Media that has deviated back at their original position. Besides using a 3D graph to look at the X, Y coordinates and the perpendicular point of the Head, the difference of the outer and the inner diameter also have to be taken in consideration. This is why Hard Disks are fragile to collision and makes it impossible to change the Head.

What's your point? How exactly is that relevant? Well done, you've managed to post a link to a site that has pretty much nothing to do with the topic.

1) A broken arm doesnt always damage the disk, it only causes a jitter to be sent through the plate.

Again, a broken off arm will destroy the drive. It's going to do a damned site more than send a "jitter through the plate". Oh, and they're called platters.

2) There are actually 2 arms on an actuator. If one breaks, the second will save the "bits" as you so eloquently put it, from flying around in the HDD.

Again, you posted this:

i can honestly say bullsh*t to that one, the clicking the actuator/head arm broken off in the drive

So, your point is entirely without merit.

3) Go back to school and figure out some of this stuff so I dont have to take time out of my day to educate a moron.

That's all you've got? Well, whatever makes you feel special, I suppose. :laugh:

FYI - when parking fails, it fails. Meaning there is no repeated "click, click, click". There is only a sometimes loud "clunk".

Learn to read.

A clicking noise is the drive trying to read a bad sector and parking/unparking the heads when it fails.

I didn't say that the parking had failed, merely that the drive will park/unpark the heads when reading a bad sector fails, as part of the bad sector reset sequence.

lol, it must be hard for you to leave a thread when you obviously got your ass handed to you.

EDIT: I'm truly sorry for the flame, it was unintentional but needed.

You reckon you've handed my arse to me? This is a pathetic excuse for a debate. I have serious doubts that you worked for a recovery firm, and if you did I suspect that you were the coffee boy. You haven't addressed any of the points that I have made, you've resorted to entirely childish and immature "insults" and your "knowledge" on the matter is entirely laughable.

Congratulations. Well done. Bronze star for you. :roll:

 

[Asthmaboy]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
If the freezer trick works with hd's it would be really cool (no pun intended) to keep your cp in the fridge. Think how much that would help things out, with overclocking and all.

Totally.
But with so many different components in a computer, it'd find some way to screw up.
Right?
Unless it was in a complete vaccuum with no air whatsoever inside, just really cold.
It's the ideal way to do it.
That would be perfect, but we all know nothing is perfect.

 

[Biggerhammer]

Phil, Nyt, please just start your own thread. You can convince eachother of your superiority there.

to others- I know that RAID <> backup but in this case (and the other times when a drive turned toes up on me) a RAID would have helped. RAID plus a decent backup policy can work to mitigate data loss. If I had used a quicker backup schedule I would have avoided trouble too.

 

[Jojo1971]

You obviously aren't very good at computers; I'd suggest sticking to something like Ball In A Cup.

Bloody $%^&*%$#$#! Phil, go back to reading your Harry Potter books...

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: Jojo1971

You obviously aren't very good at computers; I'd suggest sticking to something like Ball In A Cup.

Bloody $%^&*%$#$#! Phil, go back to reading your Harry Potter books...

And who are you exactly?
What have Harry Potter books got to do with anything?