Lets get ready for some Debating Cage Fights Round 1,2, and 3

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Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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No wonder you support Hillary for president. Now you too have lied. You said you rested your case ... but apparently you haven't. You and her are perfect bedfellows.
OK, now I'm just talking to any Republican with an IQ greater than room temperature:

You've GOT to do something about this. The rank and convicted delusion of members like "Heart God"-stein here is the rot that is killing your party. We need a sane party to oppose the Democrats, but nobody takes you seriously because idiots like this are rife among you. Get your shit together.
 

DrDoug

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OK, now I'm just talking to any Republican with an IQ greater than room temperature

If you added "of an igloo", you might get the attention of a few Republicans. An aside: McConnell and gang sought to obstruct Obama and destroy the Democrats chances in 2012, I mean 2016 and instead they themselves are being destroyed from within.

All it took to wreck their party was for the Democrats to nominate a black guy and then a woman...lol!
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Alright so I got to see the full debate. Trump did what he's done in the last two debates, stay calm and collective for about thirty minutes before he lost it and just started rambling. Hillary baited trump multiple times and I think trump took the bait all but maybe once.

Trump once again broke the record for the number of lies told in a debate.

Hillary destroyed him. I think the abortion question is where she did best.

I'm glad the one question I was hoping would be asked; will you concede if you lose and accept the outcome. Unfortunately the little bitch basically refused to answer. Despicable!
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Chris Wallace purposely asked questions that the country is highly divided on, immigration, abortion, guns. It gives Trump better odds at favorable results.
The purpose of the debate is precisely that, contrast the policy differences between the candidates on wedge issues.
 
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I did want to comment on one substantive point in the debate which hasn't gotten much mention: Trump's challenge to Clinton to give money donated to the Clinton Foundation back to countries like Saudi Arabia who donated. Why would you give the money back to the Saudis instead of using it to help people? Is it somehow better that the Saudis have this money instead of say, starving children or AIDs patients? These weren't donations made to a political campaign. They were donations to charity. Frankly, if I ran a charity back in 1943 I would have taken money from Hitler and used it to help people because the money is better spent helping people than being in the hands of Hitler.

This would have been s smart it's similar to what a Priest or Preacher says about donation from know criminals its better to use the money to help people out and tithing could be what the criminal needs to change his or her ways.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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The thing is Trump is not a good speaker. He's really bad. I don't even think he practices before debates. He goes into every debate and over exaggerates EVERYTHING. People act surprised when Clinton destroys him. Well she's been speaking in public for 30 plus years. Plus, she's married to Bill. There aren't too many people better at getting a point across than Mr. Clinton.

Trump's rhetoric worked when he was going against Republicans. It's not working now.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Agreed, that was her single best moment of these three debates imo, and one of the things that makes Trump look his worst to boot. In his mind, not accepting the results of the election is probably like not pledging to accept the eventual Republican nominee (something that likely helped him), but he has no idea that the two aren't comparable.

I thought the finish was best:

Hillary: Let's all of us work together and keep making this country great, and let's make it better
Trump: Hilary is the devil and this country is a hellscape ruled by corpse-eating feral dogs.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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You are being snookered and you are willing to vote for it because you would rather be comforted by lies and have more of the same establishment crap we have had for years and years.

Have you actually heard a single thing that Trump has said? Only a dishonest child would think the gravity of lying and fabrication between the two is on equal terms.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What a weird thing to say in 2016, what a weird thing to say about a Presidential candidate

Felix spends his days flagging youtube videos that are offensive to him. He actually considers this a public service.

It really serves no one to reply to a guy like that.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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The number of lies she told last night can only be described as monumental. The Wikileaks releases tell us that it's a huge problem that even her staff is having problems dealing with internally let alone publicly. Lying to that degree regarding things that are so easily proven as lies is to me unfathomable. But what it says about her supporters is worse but not unexpected. The Wikileaks releases have given us a glimpse into just how far Democrats will go to win. No morals, no scruples, a complete disregard for the law. Totally reprehensible.

LOL at any calls for unity after this election. I'm not lying down with dogs.
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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Alright so I got to see the full debate. Trump did what he's done in the last two debates, stay calm and collective for about thirty minutes before he lost it and just started rambling. Hillary baited trump multiple times and I think trump took the bait all but maybe once.

Trump once again broke the record for the number of lies told in a debate.

Hillary destroyed him. I think the abortion question is where she did best.

I'm glad the one question I was hoping would be asked; will you concede if you lose and accept the outcome. Unfortunately the little bitch basically refused to answer. Despicable!

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. She crushed the abortion question, made him look like a blabbering idiot when it comes to foreign policy, and had a very good and presidential closing remark. She almost seemed angry/passioned when talking about women's rights. Whether that was legitimate or not, it came across as sincere and likely expanded the tent with a few remaining conservative women that needed to hear at least *something* they could vote for this election.

Trump on the other hand did absolutely nothing to put a bandage on his hemorrhaging voting base. Sure he dropped a few scraps to the evangelicals and some of the core republican base...but he completely derailed any progress when he bombed the rebuttal about Russia tampering with the election and then totally self immolated by not just denying once, but doubling down on not accepting the results. Any progress in the first 30 minutes was evaporated right there. Done.

Then you toss in the pre-debate interview with Pence and the post debate with Kelly Anne and Rudy...good lord. I was watching MSNBC I looked at my wife and said holy crap they are insane. Then it cuts to Rachel Maddow and she basically says "Holy Crap, those two are insane!".

This election is....something. Can we just get on with 9th and end the circus?
 
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Feb 4, 2009
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The number of lies she told last night can only be described as monumental. The Wikileaks releases tell us that it's a huge problem that even her staff is having problems dealing with internally let alone publicly. Lying to that degree regarding things that are so easily proven as lies is to me unfathomable. But what it says about her supporters is worse but not unexpected. The Wikileaks releases have given us a glimpse into just how far Democrats will go to win. No morals, no scruples, a complete disregard for the law. Totally reprehensible.

LOL at any calls for unity after this election. I'm not lying down with dogs.

Per Joe Scarborough he said so far it looks like normal campaign chatter. I'm nearly positive Michael Steele agreed.
Two related questions what exactly did you find offensive in them and do you find it odd Russians only targeted Democrats?
 

Perknose

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Trump has now won all three debates.

You need to change your cable provider and/or your ISP stat, because you're receiving substandard programming with zero reality content. It's either that, or the problem lies, not in the last mile, not in the last few yards, but in the last few millimeters of misfiring synapses in your badly outdated brain pan.
 

Perknose

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LOL at any calls for unity after this election. I'm not lying down with dogs.

Bad human! A house divided cannot stand. Your continued call for obdurate division proves you're simply not housebroken. We lift our legs and mark you in contempt.

-- The Dogs
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Bad human! A house divided cannot stand. Your continued call for obdurate division proves you're simpy not housebroken. We lift our legs and mark you in contempt.

-- The Dogs
Do you say that as someone who put his full support behind G.W and Reagan?
 

Perknose

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Do you say that as someone who put his full support behind G.W and Reagan?
Principled, specific differences are one thing. OBDURATE, never-ending, undifferentiated, dead-ender opposition like the Republican Senate not doing their motherfucking constitutional DUTY and even considering our President's Supreme Court nominee is another.

Can you ADMIT this ugly, blinding difference?
 

boomerang

Lifer
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Per Joe Scarborough he said so far it looks like normal campaign chatter. I'm nearly positive Michael Steele agreed.
Two related questions what exactly did you find offensive in them and do you find it odd Russians only targeted Democrats?
Offensive in what? I made no mention of being offended.

How do we know Russians only targeted Democrats? Perhaps they were only successful in breaching Democrats. If you believe in the conspiracy theory that Putin is working with Trump just come out and say it so I don't have to bother typing out any more responses.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Offensive in what? I made no mention of being offended.

How do we know Russians only targeted Democrats? Perhaps they were only successful in breaching Democrats. If you believe in the conspiracy theory that Putin is working with Trump just come out and say it so I don't have to bother typing out any more responses.

No one believes that Putin is working with Trump. The intelligence and analysis points towards the Kremlin working towards a goal that supports Trump. This is a real distinction. Perhaps it's too subtle for you to understand, but that is the only argument that has ever been made.

This is not something that Trump understands, either, which is why it is an oft-used and generally successful strategy that the Russians have pursued for decades in influencing out-of-state elections toward their best interest.

Make no mistake: Putin wisely sees a US lead by a president Trump as weak, exploitable, and ineffective against his designs in shaping Russian expansion into their neighbors and influence in the Middle East. This is a goal that has never been made secret wrg to Putin and the only thing that all US intelligence agencies have pointed out is that this is a common tactic, this is exactly how they have labeled the Trump person (further: an individual that we already know is indebted to Putin's oligarch friends), and that this works so well because they are not working directly with anyone.

This is why the CIA calls Trump a retarded agent: a classic designation for low-level patsies that represent a dangerous security risk for the entities that they represent. As far as I know, this is the first time a major presidential candidate has achieved this designation. This is why Trump is called a puppet. What makes it even worse is that he doesn't seem to realize that there is another hand shoved up his ass.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Principled, specific differences are one thing. OBDURATE, never-ending, undifferentiated, dead-ender opposition like the Republican Senate not doing their motherfucking constitutional DUTY and even considering our President's Supreme Court nominee is another.

Can you ADMIT this ugly, blinding difference?
You seem butt-hurt, angry and highly emotional this morning so this will be the last from me on this. Our form of government was designed to function in the manner it is functioning. Three branches with power apportioned. I'm already deeply concerned about the degree to which the two major political parties are in agreement on fleecing its citizens. I am thankful that they are not yet in total agreement. If laws were broken in regards to SCOTUS picks, then those that have done so should be taken to task for that. With the corrupt DOJ and with the help of an oh so willing Comey at the FBI, that should be pretty much a cake-walk. Yet it has not been done. There must be a reason for it. But I get it Republicans are the people that are always raining on your parade.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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The number of lies she told last night can only be described as monumental. The Wikileaks releases tell us that it's a huge problem that even her staff is having problems dealing with internally let alone publicly. Lying to that degree regarding things that are so easily proven as lies is to me unfathomable. But what it says about her supporters is worse but not unexpected. The Wikileaks releases have given us a glimpse into just how far Democrats will go to win. No morals, no scruples, a complete disregard for the law. Totally reprehensible.

LOL at any calls for unity after this election. I'm not lying down with dogs.

Considering the amount of crazed conspiracy theories, bizarre ranting, and ultra right crap that has been coming out of you for years I sincerely doubt anyone expected anything more of you than this.

It's people like you that drove the Republican Party to nominate a crazy person. You reap what you sow.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Excellent comment made on CNN this morning...When Trump loses Nov. 8th, he's not returning to a Senate seat. He's not going back to a governor's mansion. He's going back to Trump Tower with a Twitter account.

This is probably the nightmare scenario that keeps Trump at night, wallowing in conspiracy theories....that he'll be left alone with a Twitter account, after being soundly beaten by a woman.

It's failure at a level he can neither comprehend nor accept. Thus, his continuing "The election's rigged" fantasy.
 

sontakke

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He has already laid the foundation to the Trump News Network. I hope he makes it paid streaming service and charges a good amount of money for the subscription.