Lets get ready for some Debating Cage Fights Round 1,2, and 3

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Sunburn74

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Overall I thought she really nailed him this round. A lot of answers showing a stark difference in their credentials and preparedness for the position. Also I thought some trump phrases where absolute death knell for him
1) hombres
2) your husband disagrees with you. My wife was like wtf? She can't have an opinion and needs a husband to make up her mind for her
3) this nasty woman.

Geez all he had to do was be very reasonable and moderate and give textbook answers on basic things and yet he couldn't do it. His scorched earth no apologies I'm never wrong approach I think will not be helping him swing people who are more moderates on most issues.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I have to say, Clinton's answer to Trump's refusal to commit to accepting the election results was brilliant. Giving examples of how he always says the deck is stacked against him because he can't take responsibility for losing, perfectly encapsulates Trump. It was his worst answer of the night and probably her best. She totally nailed him on that.

Agreed, that was her single best moment of these three debates imo, and one of the things that makes Trump look his worst to boot. In his mind, not accepting the results of the election is probably like not pledging to accept the eventual Republican nominee (something that likely helped him), but he has no idea that the two aren't comparable.
 

MongGrel

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There are some bad Hombres out there driving Taco Trucks :)

Circle the wagons.

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sportage

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The media is missing one HUGE point.
On abortion.....
Hillary kept defending late term abortion ONLY when something ""GOES WRONG"" in the latter stage of pregnancy.
NOT to simply RIP the unborn baby out of the woman willy nilly as Trump kept claiming.
And the media is not correcting Trump's lie.

Fact is....
If a woman carries pregnancy to the late term, it is pretty clear she plans on having the baby.
The ONLY TIME when something would change that is if in that late term stage, something goes TERRIBLE WRONG.

PLEASE.....
DO NOT LIE about Hillary's words and feeling on abortion.
Hillary was referring to AND ONLY REFERRING TO late term apportion when something goes terribly wrong that threatens the life of the woman.
And if the most hard line republican thinks about this, they would also agree with Hillary's and with her stance on this.

I actually had this very thing happen in my own family.
My niece chose to have a fourth pregnancy in her late 30's.
When the final month rolled around, my niece developed life threatening heart problems.
And she began bleeding uncontrollably.
The doctor warned my niece she had less than a 50/50 chance of surviving during the final 4 weeks if she carried the pregnancy to term.

That caused A LOT of worry in our family.
And the doctor wanted my niece to allow the birth be terminated because of the high risk.
My niece then made her own decision, to risk her own life and bring the pregnancy to term.
The baby was born, a week late, and is today healthy.
But my niece now has permeant heart damage that will certainly shorten her expected life span.
My niece was very lucky to have survived the pregnancy, and given birth. But she also paid an extremely high price.

This all happened last Summer 2016.
Last month we learned my niece must undergo corrective open heart surgery in a few weeks.
She goes under the knife in a couple of weeks.
Doctors are not sure if this surgery will help or not.

Was it all worth it, risking pregnancy in her late 30's?
That all depends.
The baby is a beautiful baby. Big baby, 9 lbs at birth.
But there is a possibility my niece might not survive into her 40's.
Her life span expectancy has definitely been shortened.

But THAT is what Hillary was talking about when she said she supports these decisions are up to the women and the family and the doctor, NOT THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS nor the Donald Trump US Supreme Court.
THAT was Hillary's whole point.
Something ass-wipe Trump nor his potential US Supreme court would or could ever understand.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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I dont see how Ms. Bill Clinton has a chance. Trump has now won all three debates.

Granted she did make more sense on the economy and was more specific - which was good - but I just cant believe a word coming out of her mouth.
Oh, kitty cat. I bet you were grabbed.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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I dont see how Ms. Bill Clinton has a chance. Trump has now won all three debates.

Granted she did make more sense on the economy and was more specific - which was good - but I just cant believe a word coming out of her mouth.

Even is you are trying to being a parody it is a fail.

Welcome to my short list of 3 people, and one is pretty much mandatory.
 

Sunburn74

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Oct 5, 2009
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The media is missing one HUGE point.
On abortion.....
Hillary kept defending late term abortion ONLY when something ""GOES WRONG"" in the latter stage of pregnancy.
NOT to simply RIP the unborn baby out of the woman willy nilly as Trump kept claiming.
And the media is not correcting Trump's lie.

Fact is....
If a woman carries pregnancy to the late term, it is pretty clear she plans on having the baby.
The ONLY TIME when something would change that is if in that late term stage, something goes TERRIBLE WRONG.

PLEASE.....
DO NOT LIE about Hillary's words and feeling on abortion.
Hillary was referring to AND ONLY REFERRING TO late term apportion when something goes terribly wrong that threatens the life of the woman.
And if the most hard line republican thinks about this, they would also agree with Hillary's and with her stance on this.

I actually had this very thing happen in my own family.
My niece chose to have a fourth pregnancy in her late 30's.
When the final month rolled around, my niece developed life threatening heart problems.
And she began bleeding uncontrollably.
The doctor warned my niece she had less than a 50/50 chance of surviving during the final 4 weeks if she carried the pregnancy to term.

That caused A LOT of worry in our family.
And the doctor wanted my niece to allow the birth be terminated because of the high risk.
My niece then made her own decision, to risk her own life and bring the pregnancy to term.
The baby was born, a week late, and is today healthy.
But my niece now has permeant heart damage that will certainly shorten her expected life span.
My niece was very lucky to have survived the pregnancy, and given birth. But she also paid an extremely high price.

This all happened last Summer 2016.
Last month we learned my niece must undergo corrective open heart surgery in a few weeks.
She goes under the knife in a couple of weeks.
Doctors are not sure if this surgery will help or not.

Was it all worth it, risking pregnancy in her late 30's?
That all depends.
The baby is a beautiful baby. Big baby, 9 lbs at birth.
But there is a possibility my niece might not survive into her 40's.
Her life span expectancy has definitely been shortened.

But THAT is what Hillary was talking about when she said she supports these decisions are up to the women and the family and the doctor, NOT THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS nor the Donald Trump US Supreme Court.
THAT was Hillary's whole point.
Something ass-wipe Trump nor his potential US Supreme court would or could ever understand.
I agree. Late abortions are not due to a flippant change of heart. So many factors come into play and the government should stay out of it
 
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ivwshane

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Ms. Bill Clinton is not to be trusted. She says one thing and does the other. Thats what I said and I meant it. She will promise you the world if it would mean she would get elected.


Good thing no one trusts you or believes anything you say so...
 

Cerpin Taxt

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If I were running for president I suppose your supposition would matter, but I am not. Ms. Bill Clinton is. Her lies matter.
The persistent and determined ignorance of individuals like yourself is precisely how the republicans wound up with Donald Trump as their nominee for President of the United States. You go ahead and keep that up, if it makes you feel good. The shit-show that is the GOP will just continue.
 
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DrDoug

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She will promise you the world if it would mean she would get elected.

Let's ponder this out... she wants to be elected so using your argument she should have promised us the world to get elected but she has not, which means that she must know she is going to win so she doesn't have to promise us the world!

Am I right?! If so, she's devious...
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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People like me? People like you have bought every line that has come out of her mouth.
Where have I stated anything that could even resemble what you've claimed? What in the fuck are you blathering about?

She is a typical politician - a soothsayer and practiced liar.

You are being snookered and you are willing to vote for it because you would rather be comforted by lies and have more of the same establishment crap we have had for years and years.
I rest my case.
 

ivwshane

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No wonder you support Hillary for president. Now you too have lied. You said you rested your case ... but apparently you haven't. You and her are perfect bedfellows.


Lol! Didn't you just post that you rest your cause as well?

Lol! Not only are you a liar but you are a hypocrite. You and trump are perfect for each other! Dumb and dumber!
 

DrDoug

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The best aspect of this election will be seeing the GOP screaming that 'anybody else could have beat her!' the day the candidate they forced themselves to back loses to Hillary. Lie down with pigs, get up covered in shit.

The Southern Strategy may have paid off in the short term for the GOP but in the end those they sought to control to maintain their own control have turned on the party and are now destroying it.