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Let's Define "Racism."

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Folks, there have been some charges of racism on this board, some of it justified, MOST of it not.

Racism is the belief and implication that a person of a different race is genetically inferior. Period.

What racism is NOT is insulting a country, a culture, or a belief, as NONE of these are inherent to one's race.

A person of Chinese decent is NOT inhehently totalitarian, or communist, therefore insulting these things about China cannot be "racist". A person of African decent is NOT inhehently a war lord, hip-hopper, or gangster rapper, therefore insulting these things cannot be "racist." A person of German decent is NOT inherently a Nazi, and obviously, insulting Nazis is hardly ever considered "racist."

These things are CULTURAL, not RACIAL.

PLEASE, stop with the wolf cries, folks. Because charges of racism are serious, and cannot be abused like this.
 
<<What racism is NOT is insulting a country, a culture, or a belief, as NONE of these are inherent to one's race.>>

So that makes you a bigot, which isn't any better. Direct insults to people in these forums, whether racially motivated or not, should not be tolerated.
 
He's saying that is not being a racist, he never said it's not being a bigot. Just pay attention to the real subject.
 
Yeah... if I turn around and say (and i wouldnt of course) that &quot;all white people are crackers&quot; .. and someone decides to go ... &quot;waahhh... mod he's being a racist towards me&quot; ... they would be wrong. I was being a bigot.. but not a racist. I was not insulting you particularly. Now if I said &quot;you're a stupid white cracker&quot; ... that would be racist. (correct me if i'm wrong...)


<-- btw... is white... so i can insult myself 😉
 
What was that old saying about avoiding a few topics in public places?

religion, politics

Now you can add race, age, socio-economic status, etc...etc...etc...





:frown:
 
I would say if the insult includes the person's race, and is based mainly ON that person's race, the insult is racist.

The topic here is &quot;racism.&quot; Racism is a form of bigotry, yes, but not all insults are bigotry.

If I say the Chinese system of government is terrible and oppressive, that may be deemed an insult, but it is HARDLY bigotry. If I say gangster rap is harmful and promotes violence, that may be considered an insult, but it is HARDLY bigotry.
 
Heh guyver, calling all white people crackers is indeed a racist statement...albeit not the absolute worst one you could make, heh.

What I hate seeing is when posters accuse those people who use the word &quot;ricer&quot; of being racist. The import car owning crowd is not a race in and of itself...yet🙂
 
&quot;I don't like you because your white&quot; -racist statement

&quot;I don't like you because you are European&quot; -Prejudice statement

Got it?
 
So, you're saying that I wouldn't be a racist if I said that Chinese people are communist bastards (it's cool; I'm Asian), people from the Middle East are all terrorists, and Columbians are nothing but drug dealers?

I don't know.....they're all racially motivated statements which directly insult another person's racial background. In my opinion that constitutes racism.
 
I'm inclined to agree with shooters.

Besides, picking out the fine points of racist insults is moot. I think the intent behind the statement should be given more weight than whether or not a statement is racist by way of definition.
 
Seriously, everyone have a little racism inside them. Beside from Religion, race and color there are a lot more things that are out there.
 
So, you're saying that I wouldn't be a racist if I said that Chinese people are communist bastards

yup, you'd be ignorant, but not racist, prejudice because there are then a ton of other asians that you would not consider &quot;commies&quot;

I said that Chinese people are communist bastards (it's cool; I'm Asian)

why is it ok for you to say that but not me? Because I'm white? That's what pisses me off, double standard.
 
&quot;&quot;I don't like you because your white&quot; -racist statement

&quot;I don't like you because you are European&quot; -Prejudice statement&quot;


Interesting to think about. We arent trained by society to think this way, as in the examples given by the above poster.

Stricly speaking, it seems you are saying, I could say germans suck, and its not racist...or arabs are xxxx....whatever, huh? Very intriguing. I would tend to think that we have intrisically linked nationalism to race in the world today, so much that it woud be hard to get away with your second statement (european), but i understand what you are saying.
 


<< So, you're saying that I wouldn't be a racist if I said that Chinese people are communist bastards (it's cool; I'm Asian), people from the Middle East are all terrorists, and Columbians are nothing but drug dealers?

I don't know.....they're all racially motivated statements which directly insult another person's racial background. In my opinion that constitutes racism. >>



No, if I said people in China are communist bastards, that is not racist. If you consider &quot;Chinese&quot; to be a race unto itself, than your version could be considered racist. I do not, however, consider Chinese people to be a race unto themselves. They are Asian.

If I said Afghanis are oppressive religious fanatics. That would not be racist. If I said Middle Easterners are oppressive religious fanatics, that WOULD be considered racist.

One is insulting a country or culture, and the people in it. The other is insulting a race.

If you can't see the difference, I suggest you're far to uptight and need a beer and a blowjob in the worst way.
 
Here is a simple rule:

Are you insulting someone based solely on their race? If the answer is yes, then you are making a racist comment.

Nevertheless, most of you and the rest of the world have become incredibly thin skinned pussies.

I am English and my two of my best friends are Irish and Chinese. You can bet your ass that the Chinese guy call me and the mick drunkards and we call him small dick. So what?

Most stereotypes are so general and/or so absurd that the use of them only serve to provide a basis for ragging on your friends or displaying your ignorance and simple mind to those you mean to insult.

If someone calls you a cracker, beloved patriot, beloved patriot, wop, beloved patriot or whatever. Don't get upset for that is what he wants. Just laugh at his small mind.
 
why is it ok for you to say that but not me? Because I'm white?

You can say whatever you want. If you're using it to set an example, then I really don't care. However, if you start making deragatory remarks out of context then that's when people will get offended.

That's what pisses me off, double standard.

You're absolutely right.....there is a double standard. It's the same reason why a black person can call another one a n**ger and no one gets offended, but if I did the same then I would get my ass kicked. It's the same reason why when a woman stands up for herself she's being assertive and when a man does he's being chauvinist. I don't understand why it would piss you off because it works both ways. If someone of another racial background called a white person a cracker then they would probably be offended, but if a white person said it to another white person, then they probably wouldn't think too much of it. Just look at guyver01's post.

guyver01: &quot;<-- btw... is white... so i can insult myself&quot;

According to you, if I'm guilty of having a double standard, then he is too.
 
I don't give a rats @ss what people say to me about my &quot;race,&quot; it changes not how I feel about myself, I like who I have become.


-And as for me getting &quot;offended,&quot; it only happens when an injustice has occured, not some comment out of an ignorant person's bung hole.
 
Nevertheless, most of you and the rest of the world have become incredibly thin skinned pussies.

Amen to that brother!!
 


<< You're absolutely right.....there is a double standard. It's the same reason why a black person can call another one a n**ger and no one gets offended, but if I did the same then I would get my ass kicked. It's the same reason why when a woman stands up for herself she's being assertive and when a man does he's being chauvinist. I don't understand why it would piss you off because it works both ways. If someone of another racial backgroup called a white person a cracker then they would probably be offended, but if a white person said it to another white person, then they probably wouldn't think too much of it. >>


I agree with that completely. And in my real life 🙂Q) it's the same way. But suddenly you say something like that on the forums and people will sh!t a brick.
 
Oh and speaking of racism, i'm glad most Cantinadians 😉 take American &quot;Racism&quot; as a joke (which it usually is). I think of it as a big brother picking on his sibling to be honest with you, hehe.
 
1. Stereotype - attributing the supposed, usually inaccurate, characteristics of a group to all members of that group

2. Prejudice - refers to beliefs, ideas, and attitudes about an individual or a group based on stereotypes about that group

3. Discrimination - unfair treatment and denial of access to social resources to people based on their group membership

4. Racism - a system of prejudice and discrimination against a category of people based on their race.

So it would be 1. or 2.
 
yellowperil - your first definition is not quite right.

No matter what you say, in NYC:

ALL diners are owned by greeks

ALL laundries are owned by chinese

ALL groceries are owned by Koreans

ALL newstands are owned by pakistanis

ALL cabbies smell bad.

curiously, not all pizza places are owned by italians
 


<< Let's Define &quot;Racism.&quot; >>



Let's define &quot;Race&quot; -

Is 'Asian' a race? Are people from St. Petersburg the same as those from the Indian subcontinent, China and the Phillipines?

Is 'African-American' a race? What are dark skinned descendants of Africans who live in Sweden called?

What, exactly is a Latino, Hispanic?

Native American - Are descendants of Incas the same as those of Aleuts and Seminoles?

Is 'Caucasian' the same as 'white'?
 
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