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Let me know if this idea makes sense (healing chamber).

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Saline bathwater solution:

0.91% NaCl
D5 (5% dextrose)
Contains 77 mEq/L of Na and Cl
5 g/L glucose
Maybe a small amount of antibacterial concentration.

This is basically saline solution with less glucose because its used for a topical application. The idea is to fill a bath with the stuff while it is slightly under body temperature and sleep in it all night. This concentration is necessary to form a microscopic environmental equilibrium, otherwise the water would just diffuse into individual cells and swell up the skin tissue. Bactria would have a more difficult time dividing in saltwater opposed to non saltwater.

The reason for doing so is to:

1. Evenly distribute stable heat throughout the body which allows for faster healing of tissues (from cuts, burns, bruising, and so on). heat = vessel dilation = more blood circulation

2. Emulate a closer to optimal chemical environment for superficial cell hydration and reproduction speeding up cell division.

3. The patient would be suspended in water to allow their entire body to be free of any pressure from their resting surface also allowing connective tissues to heal because of less strain.

4. Sleep deeper for longer because of the heat and suspension.

The tub/container would be designed to prevent drowning by keeping the patients head above the water. Urine and feces would be a non issue because of a watertight helmet like cover over the holes. No worry about sleeping in your own filth.

This type of therapy would of course be for customized for burn victims and other people that have been injured. This is of course compared to sleeping in a regular bed. It may be worth it if it is something like 20% faster tissue healing.

On a side note, after the temper-pedic type mattresses, what would be the new resting medium? It would have to be some sort of liquid suspension seeing as how we are made of water.

It would be possible to stay in their for something like a week depending on the patents condition. Nutrition would be given through an iv drip.

Adding computers to monator the patient and status of the water is obvious.

Cliffs: Sleep in a bath to heal faster, maybe even for days depending on condition.
 
Many things have been proposed by science fiction. I am asking about the possibility of a biomedical application. Its not too expensive. A tub and saltwater + circulating water heater.

I understand that this is not my complete original idea.
Does anyone want to critic the plausibility?
 
Eh, I would think patient comfort might be a bad thing. You're not going to heal when you're not used to sleeping in water and are uncomfortable. I can maybe see it on burn victims that have their whole bodies covered, but I know next to nothing about the healing process.
 
its a brine. i add salt and some sugar to a bowl of water and soak chicken, pork chops or shrimp in it before cooking to make them juicy and perfectly seasoned with salt.

in short: ITS A TRAP
 
Originally posted by: xSauronx
its a brine. i add salt and some sugar to a bowl of water and soak chicken, pork chops or shrimp in it before cooking to make them juicy and perfectly seasoned with salt.

in short: ITS A TRAP
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I don't think I've ever tried brining through skin. Might work, though.
 
My wife thinks they might have something similar to what you are suggesting. And, there are hyperbaric chambers which aid in healing, along the same idea, but 100 percent oxygen, instead of a liquid. For severe burn victims, they alternate between the hyperbaric chamber and a whirlpool bath to abrade the dead skin. Very painful, but a better alternative to scrubbing. I'd think that being held in a solution might be pretty painful, but really have no way of knowing for sure (I'll ask the wife later.)
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
My wife thinks they might have something similar to what you are suggesting. And, there are hyperbaric chambers which aid in healing, along the same idea, but 100 percent oxygen, instead of a liquid. For severe burn victims, they alternate between the hyperbaric chamber and a whirlpool bath to abrade the dead skin. Very painful, but a better alternative to scrubbing. I'd think that being held in a solution might be pretty painful, but really have no way of knowing for sure (I'll ask the wife later.)
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It might hurt at first but the nerve endings will calm as they get used to an artificial familiar setting of Na and K.

Is the wife a doc or nurse?
 
is it recommended to be in water for 7-10 hours? i feel like something would be wrong with that. probably shitty for your skin.
 
I think a chamber of 100% oxygen at double atmospheric pressure might aid healing.. But then I'd imagine you'd be exhausted after exiting the chamber for a while until your body gets used to less oxygen.

In short.. don't get injured so you don't have to heal..
 
fwiw, why bother with so much of a solution. Obviously, you don't get to reuse that solution, and you're talking about many, many gallons. What's wrong with some sort of a thick, gooey salve of some sorts, that you smear on in a 1/4 inch layer?
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
fwiw, why bother with so much of a solution. Obviously, you don't get to reuse that solution, and you're talking about many, many gallons. What's wrong with some sort of a thick, gooey salve of some sorts, that you smear on in a 1/4 inch layer?
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Saltwater is not expensive and warm naturally circulating water will remove cellar waste and debris. A thick gel will only keep waste where it is and may not diffuse into many layers. Depending on the shape of the container, the total gallons used may have to be around 4-6.
The factor of stable controllable heat should not be underestimated when it comes to vascularity. If a person is burned on both sides then laying them down on their back and then flipping them over periodically will delay efficiency. Liquid suspension is an improvement.
 
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