let it drop
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Maybe someone will be kind enough to setup a Pproxy and make a SETI crossover SETI mini-team
phatstyl - I believe there already is a mini-team and/or an account called "Seti Calvary" where TA SETI people are cracking for the TeAm.
Let me just say this... The DPCs have now started spreading themselves out a bit more on other projects (we know where they stand in OGR and Gamma Flux). For example, they are now participating in Folding@Home and Genome@Home. TA seemed to have started participating in a variety of projects before the DPCs, but I think eventually, you'll see a bit of the impact on DPC's keyrate if they're suddenly challenged in the other projects.
It's going to be difficult doing a call to arms, now that people are so entrenched in what they've been doing. TA needs some sortof plan, should we take #1 again (this was part of the problem when we had #1 before). Otherwise, once you're on top, the thrill is gone and people will go elsewhere for the thrill. Perhaps the fun is in getting there but once you're there, then there needs to be some way to keep it fun.
This is all just a thought.
phatstyl - I believe there already is a mini-team and/or an account called "Seti Calvary" where TA SETI people are cracking for the TeAm.
Let me just say this... The DPCs have now started spreading themselves out a bit more on other projects (we know where they stand in OGR and Gamma Flux). For example, they are now participating in Folding@Home and Genome@Home. TA seemed to have started participating in a variety of projects before the DPCs, but I think eventually, you'll see a bit of the impact on DPC's keyrate if they're suddenly challenged in the other projects.
It's going to be difficult doing a call to arms, now that people are so entrenched in what they've been doing. TA needs some sortof plan, should we take #1 again (this was part of the problem when we had #1 before). Otherwise, once you're on top, the thrill is gone and people will go elsewhere for the thrill. Perhaps the fun is in getting there but once you're there, then there needs to be some way to keep it fun.
This is all just a thought.
Actually somewhere in one of my threads they made it clear that they won't sacrifice there lead in RC5 for another project. In fact they have slowed to a halt in gamma flux.
In any case I think we need to form and alliance with another team.
In any case I think we need to form and alliance with another team.
Actually somewhere in one of my threads they made it clear that they won't sacrifice there lead in RC5 for another project. In fact they have slowed to a halt in gamma flux.
That's interesting and good to know then... I was wondering. I'm sure the TA GF folks will be happy!
That's interesting and good to know then... I was wondering. I'm sure the TA GF folks will be happy!
quit fscking trying to steal members from other competitions. They chose to do the projects they want to do and you saying that one project is a race while others are not is BULL SH*T. You guys have already combed through the other competitions and gained members, what more do you want!!!!
A long time ago seti people were attacked for trying to take rc5 hopefulls into seti instead. That was when TA owned rc5.
Give it up, do all the outside recruiting you want but stop trying to leech members from competitions.
A long time ago seti people were attacked for trying to take rc5 hopefulls into seti instead. That was when TA owned rc5.
Give it up, do all the outside recruiting you want but stop trying to leech members from competitions.
I have joined RC5!
I've running SETI for TA for over a year and, like you, got tired of seeing the RC5 team in #2. I decided to help you guys out a bit and have converted one of my SETI machines and, today, I asslaminated a P166 for RC5. Once I reach 10,000 wu's in SETI, I'm going to move more power over to RC5. At least until we regain the top spot or find the key.
My call is once again to Anand, the man himself. If he were to put us on the front page again, I'm sure we could recruit more members. For TA SETI, the front page exposure did wonders for our team. We probably gained at least 300 members from that exposure alone. Anand certainly has the resources to help RC5, either through hardware or exposure. It's hard to believe he is will to "take it on the chin" with respect to DPC.
I've running SETI for TA for over a year and, like you, got tired of seeing the RC5 team in #2. I decided to help you guys out a bit and have converted one of my SETI machines and, today, I asslaminated a P166 for RC5. Once I reach 10,000 wu's in SETI, I'm going to move more power over to RC5. At least until we regain the top spot or find the key.
My call is once again to Anand, the man himself. If he were to put us on the front page again, I'm sure we could recruit more members. For TA SETI, the front page exposure did wonders for our team. We probably gained at least 300 members from that exposure alone. Anand certainly has the resources to help RC5, either through hardware or exposure. It's hard to believe he is will to "take it on the chin" with respect to DPC.
<< quit fscking trying to steal members from other competitions >>
- wow, this ones gota way with words! in case you didnt hear me, i am not ALL powerfull, and i cannot make poeple do things, i am just enlightening them!
Poof, you see the great minds that for the TeAm think alike
cool bagthad, maybe you should join SETI calvary? if you want to i guess you should talk 2 poof =)
as far as an alliance goes, we would have to find an equal, even then there would no "real" team, but i like the idea. Also dont think they can consolidate our blocks :frown:
<< i am just enlightening them! >>
If by that you mean that RC5 is GODLIKE, and you are a good person if, and only if you participate in that project, then yeah! I say, screw all other projects! Only the enlightened deserve to run distributed computing projects! Amen brother! Preach on! Halelujia!
Um.....okay. I guess the point is....there are already people who decided to switch to RC5 to help us out in that cause (heck, I run RC5). Some switched over from Seti. Some switched over from OGR. Some from Gamma flux. Etc.
Yes, lets do what the DPC did at first, and gain everything in one spot, so we can lose ground in all others. Great idea. TA is more than just one project. It's about having fun participating in what you want to participate in.
All this talk about "WE WILL NOT FAIL!" and "empires" is rather frightening to me. But, to each their own. If they take joy in it, so be it. I'm not gonna stop anyone from having a good time with this, as that's what brought me here.
But it's not fun when people fight amonst themselves. "To aid RC5 in their time of need"....what about in OGR? The DPC are catching up there too. What about Gamma Flux? They were steaming right along there, ready to overtake us there.
I don't see them whining "GIVE US WHAT YOU HAVE!"
I'd say that about 90% of the people who frequent this forum know what other projects are going on, roughly how people are doing in them, and what they'd like to do.
Give it a rest already. You're preaching to the choir for many, and being flat out annoying by diminunizing the projects that others are having fun in.
But, I suppose it doesn't matter if someone wants to help find a cure for cancer. They should switch to RC5 because it's "more worthwhile"
Sheesh.
its not like i am saying cut they power to all the other projects! Today i just sent a 3 page report to my Schools systems administrator explaining the advantages of running OGR on the network. I even went out of my way to get various signatures from some of the bio teachers! Why not RC5? Because we all know that low P2's are better at OGR than RC5
the call for arms is obvious, assuming you read the flamebait.... er i mean post. But just because i think it would be a good idea for for RC5 to get a nudge or 2 doesnt mean that we must neglect the other teams. Some people may not like the project they are working on and might want or be waiting for a reason to switch, thats the whole idea. Things like cpu trading would be great, i remember some people who both benefited from the trade, things like that.
While I agree our team needs to up its output, I don't think we should start taking people from all the other projects and have them run RC5. Our SETI team is doing very good right now...we're in the top 10, and I don't want to see our output die because too many of our members went to RC5.
My $.02
My $.02
Whoa...seems this topic strikes some serious emotion. I'm laying low.
However, I did asslaminate a P2-350 for RC5 moments ago.
However, I did asslaminate a P2-350 for RC5 moments ago.
thats cool Sukhoi, i respect what you say and what TA SETI is trying to do and in effect this thread will soon die
RaySun2Be
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The fact of the matter is that each team is trying to compete within that project. The SETI folks are just as earnest about overtaking those teams ahead of them (and staying ahead) as the RC5 team. Same goes for OGR, GF, etc..
Many of us RC5ers have already promised to do SETI because quite a few of them already turned some of their herd to doing RC5 to help out the RC5 team (hence the creation of the SETI Calvary id).
This topic has been discussed (heatedly) many times. Yes. We can all acknowledge that if the various teams joined forces, we could outperform the DPC in RC5. Or kick butt in SETI. Or whichever. But then all of the other team projects would suffer.
Do a search through the archives and you will see this has been discussed before and the SETI team HAS come through with help. Anything more we ask will jeopordize their standings.
I can appreciate your efforts to think of ways to grow the RC5 team in order to overtake the DPC. Keep thinking of alternatives, surely we will find some that work!
Many of us RC5ers have already promised to do SETI because quite a few of them already turned some of their herd to doing RC5 to help out the RC5 team (hence the creation of the SETI Calvary id).
This topic has been discussed (heatedly) many times. Yes. We can all acknowledge that if the various teams joined forces, we could outperform the DPC in RC5. Or kick butt in SETI. Or whichever. But then all of the other team projects would suffer.
Do a search through the archives and you will see this has been discussed before and the SETI team HAS come through with help. Anything more we ask will jeopordize their standings.
I can appreciate your efforts to think of ways to grow the RC5 team in order to overtake the DPC. Keep thinking of alternatives, surely we will find some that work!
i respect what you say and what TA SETI is trying to do and in effect this thread will soon die
phatstyl - there are at least 2 threads going on over at Ars (one, two) sortof musing about the same thing...
I consider it a reflection on Team goals in light of the sudden increase in the number of available distributed computing projects and how those projects are beginning to draw people away from the more established ones like RC5 and SETI.
How this type of conflict in goals and ideals gets resolved within a Team (if it ever does), I don't know. All of us are sortof fumbling through it right now. It IS a very emotional issue for people because they are the ones ultimately responsible for maintaing those machines that they obtain to run a particular project or projects.
I would hope though, that the Team does not lose its natural cohesiveness due to this...
phatstyl - there are at least 2 threads going on over at Ars (one, two) sortof musing about the same thing...
I consider it a reflection on Team goals in light of the sudden increase in the number of available distributed computing projects and how those projects are beginning to draw people away from the more established ones like RC5 and SETI.
How this type of conflict in goals and ideals gets resolved within a Team (if it ever does), I don't know. All of us are sortof fumbling through it right now. It IS a very emotional issue for people because they are the ones ultimately responsible for maintaing those machines that they obtain to run a particular project or projects.
I would hope though, that the Team does not lose its natural cohesiveness due to this...
dennilfloss
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Let the SETI people do SETI. Ditto for the othe projects. That still leaves over 45,000 people left on the forums and who don't run any distributed projects. That's a lot of trout left to catch.
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some people don't see the point of rc5 (you're cracking a code by brute force whats the point?) or seti (WUs processed: lots. aliens found: none) but i think this new UD project, backed by intel, could be a great bit of recruiting for the TeAm banner. it has tangible results in a field people care about, and its non-profit. it gets over a lot of the hangups that people have with DC. there are a couple of easily identifiable others that are inherent in DC, "is my processor going to wear out?" which is no, "will my programs run slower," which is again no.
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