Less wide yet faster - ARM A73

[monstercameron]

We havnt touched this from Andrei but imo its one of the most unteresting perspectives:

"If *the A73 is able to hit all of*its promised targets then it leaves me with some doubt on what this means for vendors who are currently using their own microarchitectures. Apple has proven that they’re able to execute and deliver outstanding performance at high efficiency, but vendors such as Qualcomm and Samsung aren’t in an as good position. We'll have a more in depth discussion*about Snapdragon 820’s Kryo and Exynos 8890’s Mongoose cores in an upcoming deep dive article, but both microarchitectures have trouble in terms of differentiating themselves in terms of performance and power compared to ARM’s own current designs, casting some doubt on how they'll be able to evolve and compete against SoCs using Artemis cores."

What do you think about it and the implecations?

the economics of customs cores is no longer feasible?

 

[Exophase]

the economics of customs cores is no longer feasible?

There's already rumors that Qualcomm isn't going to be doing fully custom cores anymore. Instead working in collaboration with ARM to get semi-customized versions of ARM cores. This seems pretty credible.

But Kryo is Qualcomm's third custom uarch family, while Samsung is only on their first CPU, so who knows what they've got up their sleeves.

 

[StrangerGuy]

the economics of customs cores is no longer feasible?

It happens that only Apple and Samsung moves high-end phones in any meaningful quantity, and even so the former has a much larger share of that pie and complete control over the product stack. That leaves the Qualcomm's custom ARM with little high end market left to work with, while the lower end market is an ridiculously cutthroat price war that doesn't justify custom ARM especially now with everyone and their dog has A72 is on the table, and soon A73.

 

[dark zero]

It happens that only Apple and Samsung moves high-end phones in any meaningful quantity, and even so the former has a much larger share of that pie and complete control over the product stack. That leaves the Qualcomm's custom ARM with little high end market left to work with, while the lower end market is an ridiculously cutthroat price war that doesn't justify custom ARM especially now with everyone and their dog has A72 is on the table, and soon A73.

Actually unless there is a groundbreaking ARM tech, is hard for the lower tier markets to follow... Wondering who will be the one who moves to CMT

 

[monstercameron]

Actually unless there is a groundbreaking ARM tech, is hard for the lower tier markets to follow... Wondering who will be the one who moves to CMT

what?