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Les Miserables - A Graphic card choice

sztypettto

Junior Member
Greetings everybody !

I'm new here and this is my first post on AT. Certainly I will take the opportunity to introduce myself but let's keep that for later.

The Bottom Line at the top:
Deciding to build an old school machine (PC) as a memoir, researching for a suitable graphic card.

A Little History:
Back in 2004 I built my PC using an Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz on a Intel motherboard (D865GBF) tagging along with its 64 Mb IGP; didn't have many needs then. The board fried on me a year later [blame faulty PSU], ASUS P4R800 was a reasonable choice with a better IGP. Having a graphic card by the time BF2 came out was a must and my needs grew, so I settled with a Nvidia 6600 AGP by Inno3d. Nice card and everything until it died on me 12 months later, then I fixed myself with ATi's 3650 AGP by Force3d and again it died on me a year later. I still ponder if it was my choice of a cheap 300W PSU; although I couldnt reasonably detect. Or was the deaths the result of 60 C (load) temperatures or infact my choice of cheap low end graphic cards.

The Scenario:
The passage of the previous decade and moving on, the Pentium 4 CPU and the mb didn't even break a sweat and lasted half a decade and going. In tribute to the service of these components in a fraction of my life, I'm building a preservatory with better components from the last half (2005-2009)to honour the Desktop PC hardware from the previous decade (2000-2009). Being unsure how long will the RAM, mb, HDD, CPU or PSU last out. I'd like a suggestion on GPUs, one that would last for at least the next 5 years. The purpose is not to enter the new decade with old hardware but to operate it in rememberance.

My personal choice of the GPU is the X800XT PCIE but looking at its unavailability (I do not use 2nd hand hardware), I'm not sure if any other high end card is OpenGL compatible; 3650 wasn't, 6600 was. And fits the $100~150 price range, hoping high-end GPUs are like Intel Pentium 4 processors.

Note: I understand the world of detracting suggestions comparable to the possession of other antiquities as a collector's choice but that's not the purpose. [Read: Buy an IBM Video card from the 80s]

Sincerely,
SZ
 
You can't buy any of the videocards you have in mind new since they are no longer in production. The processor is so absolute, I am not sure what you mean by saying you want a videocard to last another 5 years? As in to work without frying? You need to get a new power supply as well since you have a history of failed videocards (clearly the generic PSU at work).

Unless you get a 2nd hand videocard, you will have to get something like a 4650/4670 if you want to even attempt to play any games.
 
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My personal choice of the GPU is the X800XT PCIE but looking at its unavailability (I do not use 2nd hand hardware), I'm not sure if any other high end card is OpenGL compatible; 3650 wasn't, 6600 was. And fits the $100~150 price range, hoping high-end GPUs are like Intel Pentium 4 processors.
HD 3650 and GF 6600 both support OpenGL. It was your AGP controller driver that wasn't installed properly. See the last three or four posts in this discussion:

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=118995
 
You can't buy any of the videocards you have in mind new since they are no longer in production. The processor is so absolute, I am not sure what you mean by saying you want a videocard to last another 5 years? As in to work without frying? You need to get a new power supply as well since you have a history of failed videocards (clearly the generic PSU at work).

Unless you get a 2nd hand videocard, you will have to get something like a 4650/4670 if you want to even attempt to play any games.

Cognizantly enough, if I can't find it (X800XT) then I will have to settle for something in availability and better. By getting a PCIE mb, clearly I will have more GPU options; they're cheaper too, compared to AGP counterparts. However, I'd like my choice to last at least 5 years. Naturally I had to point myself to a high end GPU within the $100~150 price range from my experience with Intel Processors, bearing maximum punishment yet enduring on longer runs.

I should ask if newer budget models - within the specified price range are reliable enough? What is their requirement of reliability? A quality PSU? Specific GPU manufacturer? GPU Coolants? Adoption of certain measures? So I'd like a specific suggestion, guessing now that I am limited to [Nvidia: 9000 series - G200 series; ATi: 3000 series - 5000 series].

Sharing my part of knowledge - of electronic component (capacitors, resistors, ICs) lifespan, and the warranty period quantified by the manufacturers. Many products are also manufactured with durable and quality components and last out way ahead of their manufacturer guarantee. I bet a lot of experienced users know this, adding such an endurance is also dependent on use.

HD 3650 and GF 6600 both support OpenGL. It was your AGP controller driver that wasn't installed properly. See the last three or four posts in this discussion:

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=118995
After reading the post I did change my mind, nothing can bring back the dead immediately. But as I mentioned PCIE and my format of options:

1.[Nvidia: 9000 series - G200 series] or [ATi: 3000 series - 5000 series]
2. $100~150 price range
3. Durable for 5 years
4. OpenGL compatible, especially software from 2000~2003 era.

My use, just to make the purpose clear is to play some older games (Industry Giant, Syberia &c), run old software and mostly light load work (office, Photoshop &c). Although I am waiting for 2011 to buy a newer tank machine to enter the new decade for hardcore gaming, graphics editing and mathematical computing but that's a different topic altogether.

Sincerely,
SZ
 
But as I mentioned PCIE and my format of options:

1.[Nvidia: 9000 series - G200 series] or [ATi: 3000 series - 5000 series]
2. $100~150 price range
3. Durable for 5 years
4. OpenGL compatible, especially software from 2000~2003 era.

Your best bet is the XFX ATI 5770 1GB for $135.

Other alternatives are eVGA GTS 450 (slower) or GTX460 768 (faster, if you can find it around $150).

Cheaper cards are 5750 1GB.

None of these cards will last 5 years unless you are talking about 2D or games starting today and older.

Also, you may want to consider uprading your CPU/PSU.
 
Something lke an Nvidia GT240 or Radeon 5570 or 5670 will be faster by quite a bit than those old cards and could even be cheaper (5570's are $45 after rebate, GT240 is $40). They are PCIE and will be plenty for 'honoring' a P4. 🙂
 
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