Legendary Journalist Bill Moyers Says He Fears For The Nation For The First Time In His Life

[JEDIYoda]

Bill Moyers is right on!! We live in a time when facts mean nothing because people will say whose facts are we talking about/
That statement basically can include lies or misrepresentations!
What is interesting is people actually believe the misrepresentations and the half truths!
Just take the impeachment process.
People don`t care about verifiable facts or even facts that have been verified or debunked!
They care about the crying and whimpering of Trump and his goons concerning the process.
Then the only reason they are crying is because they have no rebuttal for the facts!
Then when givien the opportunity to present a list of witnesses they put Hunter Biden and the whistleblower on the list knowing full well neither is going to trestify and trying make it sound like if they don`t testify then the Dems are hiding something...lolol

"In his letter, Nunes provided justification for each witness, as requested by Schiff. The Republican witness requests primarily pertain to the conspiracy theory that Ukraine hacked Democratic National Committee servers in 2016 — a baseless claim that has been disputed by the American intelligence community — and to the allegation that Joe Biden pushed for the removal of a Ukrainian prosecutor general who was investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian gas firm with ties to Hunter Biden. There is no evidence to support that claim.


Schiff sent a letter to House Intelligence Committee Congressman Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the committee, on Saturday, saying he will give due consideration to witnesses within the scope of the impeachment inquiry," but the whistleblower's testimony is "redundant and unnecessary."
You heard that the Onion was sold to a competitor called The Garlic...….j/k

Legendary Journalist Bill Moyers Says He Fears For The Nation For The First Time In His Life

"Society, a democracy, can die of too many lies — and we’re getting close to that terminal moment," he warns.

www.yahoo.com

Respected journalist Bill Moyers said Sunday that for the first time “in my long life” — including the Depression and World War II — he fears for the nation’s survival.


A “society, a democracy, can die of too many lies — and we’re getting close to that terminal moment unless we reverse the obsession with lies that are being fed around the country,” Moyers told Brian Stelter on CNN.


Hope lies in citizens paying careful attention to the televised impeachment hearings beginning this week on Wednesday and Friday in the House, noted Moyers, who served for two years as Lyndon Johnson’s press secretary. He has urged PBS to re-air the hearings during primetime so that they more easily be seen by working people.


“Do facts matter anymore?” Moyers asked, referring to the impeachment investigation. “I think they do. I think they mattered in the Watergate hearings, in the Clinton hearings, and I think they’ll matter this time, too.”


He referred to Trump’s “astonishing” response from the crowd at a campaign rally last month in Louisiana.


“They believed everything he said,” Moyers noted. “I’m hoping only 10% of those people watch the hearings ... They will see it is not a witch hunt, and they will begin to doubt their master. And they will begin to break off and maybe become a citizen again.”


Moyers believes Trump still has a “pretty good” chance of winning the 2020 election, but that only a “slight shift” in people who “begin to doubt” could make a significant difference.


Check out Moyers’ remarks in the clip above.

 

[Greenman]

I hope Bill gets over his panic attack.

 

[thilanliyan]

I hope Bill gets over his panic attack.

I hope people stop blindly supporting Trump considering evidence of his corruption/immorality/dishonesty/etc is on display almost daily.

 

[Greenman]

I hope people stop blindly supporting Trump considering evidence of his corruption/immorality/dishonesty/etc is on display almost daily.

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

 

[thilanliyan]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

Of course it will survive, but him and his admin is doing damage that will take a LONG time to fix, and I'm just talking about stuff like environmental regulations.

Who knows what kind of lasting damage there will be from his rampant corruption, terrible foreign policy, trade deals, and instigation of his base.

 

[Indus]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

I am not so sure because I don't want any part of a dictatorship.

 

[Commodus]

I hope Bill gets over his panic attack.

I don't think he's panicking that much. Think about it: the US has an administration where truth is virtually meaningless, where executive overreach and overt corruption are the order of the day, and where members of the President's party are determined to actively obstruct any attempts to hold him accountable. And that's not including Republican attempts to rig elections in a way that just didn't happen in decades past.

I think the US will survive Trump, but that still requires people being alarmed at the behavior of him and his party in large enough numbers to vote them out. The Trump regime has to go in 2020; the US might be considerably weaker if he's still in power for another four years.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

If the system worked there would be no Trump. Not the end of the nation, merely the answer to the question asked of Franklin "Do we have a Republic"? The answer is no, we couldn't keep it. We'll go back to pretending that the "working system" did its job while you and I are made fools of. I won't embrace it, however.

 

[Moonbeam]

There was a time in our founding history when a mystical realization central to enlightened realization figured prominently in the fabric woven into our system of law and government, that life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that truth and justice in a society are not only vitally important but important for the reason that these things, these undefinable and ineffable concepts adhere inalienably to every human being by virtue of the fact that we were created in God's immage. These are ideas that have been lost. We live now in just the same world our forefathers sought to escape, the dictitorial will of individual selfish egos who live in pig ignorance of their spiritual potential and want it to be that way. The bloom is off the rose and there is only now the thorns. Wherever the light of God appears in the world the smothering death of mechanical sleep is sure to follow. The knowledge that there is only love and that our lives are otherwise wasted is too much to bear. Time now to forget what I said. I think Amazon has a sale.

 

[theeedude]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

It will survive Trump, but Trump is a symptom of a disease that it might not survive. Trump is a data point on a pattern of progressively worse leadership picked by a shrinking minority of Americans through a less and less democratic process. We also have an absolutist Supreme Court that is greenlighting corporate corruption, vote suppression, gerrymandering, and all sorts of unethical conduct based on their corporatist dogma. Meaning the government is getting decoupled and insular from the majority of the American people. You also have a widening and deepening geographic mismatch between economic and political power. It's not outside the realm of possibility that an increasingly radical and corrupt US government picked by an increasingly small minority will lose the consent of the governed in most populated and economically important parts of the country. Then all bets are off.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

The best thing Trump can do for this country is get impeached and removed from office (I do not believe he will be removed from office).

I am a little disappointed that the dems have decided to go with just one of a laundry list of Trumps offense, but it will be good to have some precident (president? *chortle*) for exactly how far is too far and begin building a gilded cage around limits of the power of the president.

Congress has slowly been abdicating its power since the 1970's and its taken way too long for them to get their balls back.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It will survive! yet who wants to live in a country where lies and enuendos and half truths carry more weight than the truth??

 

[feralkid]

I hope Bill gets over his panic attack.

Shorthand for Trump 2020?

Your slip is showing again.

 

[Jhhnn]

The best thing Trump can do for this country is get impeached and removed from office (I do not believe he will be removed from office).

I am a little disappointed that the dems have decided to go with just one of a laundry list of Trumps offense, but it will be good to have some precident (president? *chortle*) for exactly how far is too far and begin building a gilded cage around limits of the power of the president.

Congress has slowly been abdicating its power since the 1970's and its taken way too long for them to get their balls back.

Keep it simple. Trump's actions wrt Ukraine are an illegal & shameful abuse of power. It corrupts a govt in desperate need of overcoming corruption. The conspiracy theories generated to support it are insane. The lies generated by the GOP to obfuscate the facts are absolutely astounding.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

You sound like my moderate brother who laughed off all my warnings about the crazy right. He realizes now that he should have paid more attention.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Shorthand for Trump 2020?

Your slip is showing again.

Wait, is he seriously trying to claim he's not a Turmp supporter? And thinks people can't see how completely and totally full of shit that is?

 

[fskimospy]

It's still a panic attack.
The Republic will survive Trump, the system will work. It's not the end days of the US. We will survive and prosper as we always have, not because of Trump, but in spite of him.

Maybe you can explain how a detailed public report describing the president engaging in multiple felonies using the powers of office and that resulting in nothing is indicative of a working system.

 

[fskimospy]

Wait, is he seriously trying to claim he's not a Turmp supporter? And thinks people can't see how completely and totally full of shit that is?

My bet would be that he either votes for Trump or votes third party/doesn’t vote with the excuse that the Democrats made him do it.

 

[Greenman]

Shorthand for Trump 2020?

Your slip is showing again.

I don't know yet. My conversion to rabid progressive isn't scheduled until late 2023 (when I retire). My primary concerns up until that date are tax code changes that would consume a large chunk of my assets, and being regulated out of business.
My opinions around here are unpopular because I don't generally run with the herd. I don't espouse Trump's crimes and guilt at every opportunity, I don't denigrate republican voters or join in the hatefest. These things all mark me as "other" and are rejected by the tribe. It's a situation that I find amusing as I'm actually a fairly liberal fellow.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't know yet. My conversion to rabid progressive isn't scheduled until late 2023 (when I retire). My primary concerns up until that date are tax code changes that would consume a large chunk of my assets, and being regulated out of business.

What tax code changes are you referring to, specifically? Also, what proposed regulations do you think would put you out of business? It's hard to see how they relate to Trump as the regulations that govern your business are unlikely to be federal.

My opinions around here are unpopular because I don't generally run with the herd. I don't espouse Trump's crimes and guilt at every opportunity, I don't denigrate republican voters or join in the hatefest. These things all mark me as "other" and are rejected by the tribe. It's a situation that I find amusing as I'm actually a fairly liberal fellow.

I think you may be missing some of the reasons your opinions here are unpopular. You mention not espousing Trump's crimes and guilt at every opportunity but that's not really it. You've repeatedly make demonstrably false claims about the Mueller report for example, even after being corrected, stating that it found no evidence of collusion when it documents collusion voluminously. I think people on here are way too prone to mistake any disagreement with some sort of blood feud but you aren't helping yourself when you do stuff like that.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't know yet. My conversion to rabid progressive isn't scheduled until late 2023 (when I retire). My primary concerns up until that date are tax code changes that would consume a large chunk of my assets, and being regulated out of business.
My opinions around here are unpopular because I don't generally run with the herd. I don't espouse Trump's crimes and guilt at every opportunity, I don't denigrate republican voters or join in the hatefest. These things all mark me as "other" and are rejected by the tribe. It's a situation that I find amusing as I'm actually a fairly liberal fellow.

Yeh, 2% of anything over $50M would be a real ball breaker. But only in the land of the extremely privileged. You gonna whine like Don Jr, or what?

 

[theeedude]

There is an article in the Atlantic on this subject, which is very insightful:

How America Ends

A tectonic demographic shift is under way. Can the country hold together?

www.theatlantic.com

If not reversed, the current trend of Republican behavior, especially as it relates to subverting democracy, will destroy the country when everyone else has had enough. Eventually, the rest of the people simply won't consent to being governed by a rigged system, and then the whole charade will collapse.

 

[crashtech]

Partisans and ideologues have forgotten how to look in the mirror and see their own flaws. There also seems to be no realization that once you allow yourself to feel contempt for another person/group, it's almost impossible to back away from that. It's the next to last step to dehumanizing your opponents. Once they are not human, it's possible to justify any act of aggression against them. There's some sort of illusion that all will be well once the "other side" is destroyed. It's a dangerous fantasy. Centrists are completely marginalized in the current climate, so opportunities for compromise are gone. Welcome to civil war, I hope you enjoy it.

 

[zinfamous]

Maybe you can explain how a detailed public report describing the president engaging in multiple felonies using the powers of office and that resulting in nothing is indicative of a working system.

Never mind that he is officially recognized as a felon by a court of law, the presidency currently the only thing keeping him out of jail.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I don't know yet. My conversion to rabid progressive isn't scheduled until late 2023 (when I retire). My primary concerns up until that date are tax code changes that would consume a large chunk of my assets, and being regulated out of business.
My opinions around here are unpopular because I don't generally run with the herd. I don't espouse Trump's crimes and guilt at every opportunity, I don't denigrate republican voters or join in the hatefest. These things all mark me as "other" and are rejected by the tribe. It's a situation that I find amusing as I'm actually a fairly liberal fellow.

ROFLMFAO. It's good to find things that make you laugh.