TerryMatthews said:
They are hypocrites and bigots. They argue that you love who you love and that everyone should have the right to marry who they love and then turn around and turn their collective noses at polygamists.
At least Conservatives are honest enough to tell you straight-up that they don't think you should have a right to get married.
I don't know what "they" do, but I know for sure this isn't what I'M doing and it doesn't look to me like this is what shira is doing (and he's getting all the shit about being a bigot)
Kind of funny how the guy here who actually engages in poly relationships seems to agree with me that there are legal challenges that should be addressed...
It was convenient that you chose gay women, where one of them can be the biological mother, rather than the example of gay men I chose.
I don't know what you're talking about. I was responding to Retro Rob who brought up custody in a lesbian divorce as an example of legal challenge in gay marriage. Are you saying that male divorce custody presents a legal problem because it removes bias for women?
If you believe that current heterosexual child custody is truly on a case by case basis without massive institutional bias against fathers, then I've got a bridge to sell you. Crack addict mothers get custody all the time while good fathers get told to fuck off.
Uh, no, I didn't say there wasn't an institutional bias, I said that there wasn't a rigid legal framework for who got custody. Do you not understand how it can be both decided on a case by case basis AND contain heavy bias? The question here is what laws are challenged, not what biases are challenged.
This whole thing is a really dumb strawman. I've never seen anyone say that they would support gay marriage but are holding off to make sure that the laws are fair first. You're only grasping at really silly examples to try to make anyone who says that poly has legal challenges look like a hypocrite.
The whole legal marriage system can be abused enough as it is, excuse me for having a concern about letting it be abused any further. Like when a wealthy person marries someone who makes nothing only to be pushed into a higher tax bracket - what's the natural extension for poly marriage, make the brackets higher with every additional person? So the wealthy person can instead marry 10 broke women and get a huge tax cut? Yeah maybe you think the answers to this are obvious, fuck, maybe they are and I'm just too dumb to see them. Then spell it all out for me instead of this hand waving bullshit and the usual partisan antagonism.