Legal blurays

[Ichinisan]

And that's why I use Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre.

1. Insert Blu-ray
2. Click icon next to play button
3. Click "Go to root menu"
4. Play movie.

Hell back in the VHS days you had to fast forward through everything, which could take minutes. It's actually much better now, but whiners gonna whine/pirate.

We're saying that many movies do not allow you to use the top menu function. Arcsoft TMT is also affected by this.

 

[irishScott]

We're saying that many movies do not allow you to use the top menu function. Arcsoft TMT is also affected by this.

Sometimes, I've yet to find a blu ray where I have to wait more than 30 seconds for it to start.

 

[jagec]

That's nice if you are using it to justify not buying movies.

It certainly isn't a justification for stealing them though.

True, I would never and have never stolen a movie. Back in college I used to infringe studio copyrights, though, which is (apparently) far worse from a legal standpoint. I don't do that now that I have Netflix.

 

[purbeast0]

Sometimes, I've yet to find a blu ray where I have to wait more than 30 seconds for it to start.

people on here are just being drama queens or trying to make themself feel okay about pirating. i too have never waited more than probably 30 seconds or so to get a movie started, and i've also never seen a non-skippable preview. only things i've seen that you can't actually skip are the fbi warnings, but those are on the screen for like 5 seconds.

some previews you have to fast forward through and the skip function doesn't work, but you aren't force to wait for them to finish.

 

[waggy]

I don't mind t he previews. But i do agree with some of the other crap mentioned such as commercials. i hate fucking car commercials that seem to be before the movie starts.

It should be you put it in. get the menu and have the choice to see the previews or the movie

 

[luv2liv]

ideally, it should be:
1- pop disc in
2- movie instantly plays.

no fbi warning. no previews. no silly company pop up video of their fancy logos. none of that crap. if you want crap, wait for the end.

pirates get it. movie studios still dont or refuse to.

 

[lxskllr]

ideally, it should be:
1- pop disc in
2- movie instantly plays.

no fbi warning. no previews. no silly company pop up video of their fancy logos. none of that crap. if you want crap, wait for the end.

pirates get it. movie studios still dont or refuse to.

You should also be able to easily rip it using libre software, so you can put it on other devices.

 

[purbeast0]

ideally, it should be:
1- pop disc in
2- movie instantly plays.

no fbi warning. no previews. no silly company pop up video of their fancy logos. none of that crap. if you want crap, wait for the end.

pirates get it. movie studios still dont or refuse to.

i do agree that is what i wish it was, but the reality is it isn't, and an extra 30 seconds before the movie starts isn't going to kill you when you are about to sit down for 2 hours or so to watch a movie.

and if all those other things went at the end of the movie, obviously like nobody would watch them, which is why they put them in the beginning.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

On the last hundred or so BD movies I've popped into my oldest Sony BD player, I've been able to use chapter forward to skip a preview. Its the "You are a thief" screens that I cannot get ahead of.

 

[darkewaffle]

My blu-ray player came with a perma-trial (seemingly) disc of PowerDVD, but I think I lost it. After I upgraded to Win8 on my HTPC I was looking for a way to play blu-rays on it again and have found a combo of PotPlayer and a free decrypter to work well. It's played everything I've thrown at it so far but it does lack menu support, so you kind of have to get a feel for where the files you actually want to play are located. I'm happy enough with it thus far though.

 

[CZroe]

Sometimes, I've yet to find a blu ray where I have to wait more than 30 seconds for it to start.

And you won't with AnyDVD installed. Sure you don't already have it installed?

Are you somehow selecting this option before playback starts?

 

[Dedpuhl]

I do not believe you. User prohibited operations are absolutely infuriating. Sometimes you can only skip with the Skip button, sometimes only with Top Menu, sometimes only with Play, sometimes only with FF...you never know until you try them all.

Here's the kicker. Sometimes I want to go BACKWARD to see something I missed in a preview, but THAT'S ALSO A PROHIBITED OPERATION! I've even seen Pause as a prohibited operation! Heads need to roll (figuratively) at these DVD/BD production companies.

Now this is even more infuriating...I've encountered some movies that have absolutely no way to skip the previews. I believe one example was a rental version of The Blind Side on Blu-Ray. On top of that, the previews were lower-than-standard-def and non-anamorphic (black borders on all sides). For some reason, I was forced to restart the disc over and over. Since experiencing that, now I'll want to kill myself if I ever see another trailer for a movie with Steve Irwin's kid in it. On top of that, the amount of forced trailers was far beyond reasonable. Then there was no option for subtitles. There were other examples of movies with absolutely no way to skip previews, but I don't remember which movies they were.

Every format is fucked.

I have a huge Blu Ray collection (new, used, rentals) and don't recall being forced to watch previews. I have several previously viewed (rental) Blus with the rental graphic (goHastings) embedded on the discs and they still allow me to FF.

I'm curious now, so I'll check tonight to see if I can find one that doesn't let me FF.

 

[CZroe]

I have a huge Blu Ray collection (new, used, rentals) and don't recall being forced to watch previews. I have several previously viewed (rental) Blus with the rental graphic (goHastings) embedded on the discs and they still allow me to FF.

I'm curious now, so I'll check tonight to see if I can find one that doesn't let me FF.

Are you playing on a PC? You should probably test in a standard player or PS3 with an Internet connection (some trailers are streamed).

 

[purbeast0]

Are you playing on a PC? You should probably test in a standard player or PS3 with an Internet connection (some trailers are streamed).

i've never even owned a pc with a blu-ray drive and i've never had the problem of not being able to ff or skip previews. used ps3 for 99.9% of my bluray watching (only watched 2 movies with my new bluray player, jurassic park 3d and mortal kombat, which was this past weekend.

 

[Dedpuhl]

Are you playing on a PC? You should probably test in a standard player or PS3 with an Internet connection (some trailers are streamed).

I only use my PS3 with internet. All movies I've put in so far have allowed me to either FF, skip or go straight to the Blu Ray menu.

 

[irishScott]

And you won't with AnyDVD installed. Sure you don't already have it installed?

Are you somehow selecting this option before playback starts?

No, I'm repeatably pressing "chapter forward" and/or "go to main menu". Aside from the legal warnings, it works.

Bitching over pushing buttons maybe 3-5 times to get a movie to start is childish.

 

[CZroe]

No, I'm repeatably pressing "chapter forward" and/or "go to main menu". Aside from the legal warnings, it works.

Bitching over pushing buttons maybe 3-5 times to get a movie to start is childish.

Which is exactly why I said:

Because it [the studio intro] was likely to be included on the pirate copy just the same, the author [of the piracy-promoting flowchart image] was clearly stretching by even mentioning it. Oh, but then: trying to make those few more seconds appear to have made the difference between a flat soda and an empty popcorn tub? Beyond stretching it.

I'm just curious if there are any that have every function blocked. I have a feeling that the spec requires at least one of these functions to be enabled:
Fast Forward
Top Menu
Next Chapter

There may be an exception for rental discs and there may be something the studios could exploit to force Internet-streaming trailers on you, which is why I am curious and giving input to test it in this way. Someone with Netflix's BD service should test The Blind Side.

 

[Juddog]

From my experience, it seems that the blu ray discs from Netflix have more locked down in terms of the intro than the ones you would typically buy from amazon, etc..

 

[Ichinisan]

I was using PowerDVD 13 to play "Zero Dark Thirty" a couple days ago from a real BD disc rented from Redbox. about 15-20 mins into the movie, the sound went out and I got an error message about Cinavia protection and a non-HDCP display (Sony KDL-52XBR2 TV). I had to disable Slysoft AnyDVD.

AnyDVD helps counters some of the bullshit caused by copy protection and prohibited user operations, but now I can't just leave it enabled all the time

 

[Cobalt]

That's why I <3 AnyDVD. Rip all my blu-rays to my HDD and strip the crap. I then catalog them in WMC to build my library for future viewing pleasure. Little more involved but worth the trouble!

 

[Ichinisan]

That's why I <3 AnyDVD. Rip all my blu-rays to my HDD and strip the crap. I then catalog them in WMC to build my library for future viewing pleasure. Little more involved but worth the trouble!

Look at the post above you.

AnyDVD can't help with Cinavia protection

 

[lamedude]

With the copy protection stripped you can use a player that doesn't care about Cinavia. Just load the 0800.mpls (IIRC that's usually the main movie but theatrical/unrated cuts on the same disk make it little harder) into MPC-HC.

 

[colonelciller]

That's nice if you are using it to justify not buying movies.

It certainly isn't a justification for stealing them though.

sure it is

 

[colonelciller]

No, I'm repeatably pressing "chapter forward" and/or "go to main menu". Aside from the legal warnings, it works.

Bitching over pushing buttons maybe 3-5 times to get a movie to start is childish.

no, forcing every user to do so is what is wrong, which is why many boycott blueray discs entirely

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Strange (keeping fingers crossed) as I have >300 Blu-ray disks and have none that won't play. Then again, I watch them from a stand alone player in the home theater and not from a computer.