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But wait, hold your chuckles :) there is a squeal, Left 4 Dead again (2) LOL!!! - This is something Larry David would use in one of his stories
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: minmaster
i'm comparing the cost to the price i paid for the original L4D. it's not coming out of some ass like you say. no matter how you put it, i and many generally have a good idea of what the game will deliver. it won't be a world of difference from the original. stop being thick skulled. 30 bucks is what i paid for original, and since this is the sequel to the very same game, it's the price i won't pay for. is it that hard to get that through your skull?

lol, ok man. Buy it or don't, whatever the price, I don't care. It's one thing to stick to an entertainment budget, or to refuse to buy a game on some principle, but to assign some arbitrary worth to an unreleased game was just funny to me and I thought worthy of passing comment. It's just one of a number of trivialities that people have gotten hissy about in this thread. Just a game. Do what you will.
 
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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

It is not a question of people assuming something with no reason to do so. Valve promised a lot more content and they haven't delivered on that promise. They have now decided that what they developed was good enough to be charged as a separate game so instead of releasing it for free, they are going to charge for it.
-KeithP

My 5 year old hit me with that a couple times. You make plans and they don't work out and they tell you "You promised!!!" and the pouting commences.

Not many people have the balls to state on a public forum that they make promises to their children that they have no intention of keeping.

Even fewer would publicly display their illiteracy.

there's a difference between being stuck with lousy parents and getting to choose whether or not you give a company your money for their product

Ah, so that's the problem. You're upset over having to ask your lousy parents for money to buy a video game. If that's the case, I suggest waiting until December and asking Santa Claus for it.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Ironically the game is called Left 4 Dead. Looks like Valve, Left You 4 Dead, LMAO!

lol

Did you just quote and laugh at your own joke? :confused:

KT
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Ironically the game is called Left 4 Dead. Looks like Valve, Left You 4 Dead, LMAO!

lol

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Dumac

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Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
[insert shitload of forged, nested quotes]

I see you have about hit your limit on the number of useful posts you can manage in one thread.
 

Pacemaker

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I guess I should have seen this coming since when I bought Half-life 2 it was supposed to include TF2 when it was completed. I don't blame them for trying to get more money, but it's a bit quick for a sequel to a game that was released low on content to begin with. This one had better have more content at release, because I'm not going to be fooled again.
 
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Originally posted by: Koudelka
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Am i missing something?...

Yes. Valve used a promise of free content to sell a product, then reneged on that promise and instead decided to charge for the extra content. How would you feel if you bought a new blender with a 24 month warranty, then the company that sold you the blender decided to release a new model and told you your warranty is only valid if you buy the new blender. It's a similar position.

The people complaining wouldn't have a leg to stand on if Valve didn't promise new content - in that case they would be operating under an assumption of free content which Valve has no obligation to provide. This is not the case.

Valve said they were still going to continue to patch and update L4D1 or did they not?

Also, Valve is not obligated to provide free content until the end of time. Be grateful they provide so much free content as it is.

Ungrateful, never satisfied customers like yourself do not encourage any company to provide anything for free.

Well excuse me but fuck you. I've never even played L4D, I just understand the argument.
 
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I've never even played L4D

Then WTF are you doing in this thread? Seriously, are you that bored that you feel compelled to partake in random discussions?
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Daverino
I demand that all games should be free because then I can play more without spending money! I'm entitled to free things because I have the internet!

I agree with Daverino.
 
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I've never even played L4D

Then WTF are you doing in this thread? Seriously, are you that bored that you feel compelled to partake in random discussions?

Up yours. It's not up to you which threads I visit here. I visit most threads in the PC Gaming forum here.
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I've never even played L4D

Then WTF are you doing in this thread? Seriously, are you that bored that you feel compelled to partake in random discussions?

Providing a possibly unbiased view separate from the views given by disgruntled L4D players and pleased L4D players.
 

Koudelka

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Am i missing something?...

Yes. Valve used a promise of free content to sell a product, then reneged on that promise and instead decided to charge for the extra content. How would you feel if you bought a new blender with a 24 month warranty, then the company that sold you the blender decided to release a new model and told you your warranty is only valid if you buy the new blender. It's a similar position.

The people complaining wouldn't have a leg to stand on if Valve didn't promise new content - in that case they would be operating under an assumption of free content which Valve has no obligation to provide. This is not the case.

Valve said they were still going to continue to patch and update L4D1 or did they not?

Also, Valve is not obligated to provide free content until the end of time. Be grateful they provide so much free content as it is.

Ungrateful, never satisfied customers like yourself do not encourage any company to provide anything for free.

Well excuse me but fuck you. I've never even played L4D, I just understand the argument.

Obviously not.

You compare a video game company releasing a sequel to blenders and their warranty. Then you confess you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Well played.

Valve has said they are still going to update L4D1, end of story.
 
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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I've never even played L4D

Then WTF are you doing in this thread? Seriously, are you that bored that you feel compelled to partake in random discussions?

Providing a possibly unbiased view separate from the views given by disgruntled L4D players and pleased L4D players.

LOL. A monkey can give an unbiased opinion, that doesn't mean anybody wants to hear it. Unbiased really doesn't mean anything when you're also uninformed.

So far he hasn't really said anything insightful and has still managed to hurl insults at everyone. We're all so very lucky he's chosen to read and contribute to most of the posts in this forum.
 
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
LOL. A monkey can give an unbiased opinion, that doesn't mean anybody wants to hear it. Unbiased really doesn't mean anything when you're also uninformed.

So far he hasn't really said anything insightful and has still managed to hurl insults at everyone. We're all so very lucky he's chosen to read and contribute to most of the posts in this forum.

I'm as entitled to my opinions as anyone else on this board, and just as free to express them. My opinions are not uninformed, you don't need to play the game to be able to follow the news and Valve's statements regarding free content to drum up sales. I think we should get this thread back on topic, stop talking about me and talk about the issue.

I have yet to hear any good rebuttal from the Valve fanboys regarding Valve's promise of free content, which was most certainly a strategy to get an incomplete game out and still make sales. The closest thing we have to a response is Valve saying that they will continue to support L4D, but with no specific information I and many others are sceptical of that.
 

PUN

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Valve should've offered an expansion pack or free dlc before they started working on L4D2.
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Am i missing something?...

Yes. Valve used a promise of free content to sell a product, then reneged on that promise and instead decided to charge for the extra content. How would you feel if you bought a new blender with a 24 month warranty, then the company that sold you the blender decided to release a new model and told you your warranty is only valid if you buy the new blender. It's a similar position.

The people complaining wouldn't have a leg to stand on if Valve didn't promise new content - in that case they would be operating under an assumption of free content which Valve has no obligation to provide. This is not the case.

Valve said they were still going to continue to patch and update L4D1 or did they not?

Also, Valve is not obligated to provide free content until the end of time. Be grateful they provide so much free content as it is.

Ungrateful, never satisfied customers like yourself do not encourage any company to provide anything for free.

Well excuse me but fuck you. I've never even played L4D, I just understand the argument.

That says it all right there...
 

KMFJD

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Originally posted by: Maximilian
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Am i missing something?...

Yes. Valve used a promise of free content to sell a product, then reneged on that promise and instead decided to charge for the extra content. How would you feel if you bought a new blender with a 24 month warranty, then the company that sold you the blender decided to release a new model and told you your warranty is only valid if you buy the new blender. It's a similar position.

The people complaining wouldn't have a leg to stand on if Valve didn't promise new content - in that case they would be operating under an assumption of free content which Valve has no obligation to provide. This is not the case.

Valve said they were still going to continue to patch and update L4D1 or did they not?

Also, Valve is not obligated to provide free content until the end of time. Be grateful they provide so much free content as it is.

Ungrateful, never satisfied customers like yourself do not encourage any company to provide anything for free.

Well excuse me but fuck you. I've never even played L4D, I just understand the argument.

That says it all right there...

Says what exactly? You don't need to play the game in order to understand the situation you nitwit.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
[insert shitload of forged, nested quotes]

I see you have about hit your limit on the number of useful posts you can manage in one thread.

There's not really anything more to say. Some people apparently need a pet issue to rail against, and L4D2 fits the bill for now. It's their business if they've decided to write the game off in advance, even if it makes no sense to me. If it's a good game, I want to play it; if it's bad, I don't. We won't know that for some months, so discussion about the game's quality, worth, or effect on the existing L4D community at this point is moot.

This is simply punctuated by BTRY B 529th FA BN making a retarded joke and then lollin' at his own brilliance. Kind of a meta summary of this circle jerk thread.
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Maximilian
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Koudelka
Am i missing something?...

Yes. Valve used a promise of free content to sell a product, then reneged on that promise and instead decided to charge for the extra content. How would you feel if you bought a new blender with a 24 month warranty, then the company that sold you the blender decided to release a new model and told you your warranty is only valid if you buy the new blender. It's a similar position.

The people complaining wouldn't have a leg to stand on if Valve didn't promise new content - in that case they would be operating under an assumption of free content which Valve has no obligation to provide. This is not the case.

Valve said they were still going to continue to patch and update L4D1 or did they not?

Also, Valve is not obligated to provide free content until the end of time. Be grateful they provide so much free content as it is.

Ungrateful, never satisfied customers like yourself do not encourage any company to provide anything for free.

Well excuse me but fuck you. I've never even played L4D, I just understand the argument.

That says it all right there...

Says what exactly? You don't need to play the game in order to understand the situation you nitwit.

Um yeah you do... you really do... you dipshit.