Lebanon's Pro-Syrian Government Is Dissolved

[TastesLikeChicken]

imo, this is a direct result of Bush's ME policy. His policy has emboldened people in the ME now to take matters into their own hands, which is the result I desired from his policies. I'm not getting too optimistic yet, and Lebanon has a long row to hoe from here, but it's encouraging. Hopefully the US will offer a nice financial and foreign aid package to them in order to get the show on the road.

I wonder who's next? Iran? Are you watching?

Edit: US is offering support for free and fair elections, which implies a diplomatic hand. Whether or not that entails financial support as well will remain to be seen.

This could be an indirect encouragement to the Israeli/Palestinian situation too.

 

[imported_Condor]

The area is a lot more beautiful than that. More than just big, ugly cities there!

 

[mrCide]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
imo, this is a direct result of Bush's ME policy. His policy has emboldened people in the ME now to take matters into their own hands, which is the result I desired from his policies. I'm not getting too optimistic yet, and Lebanon has a long row to hoe from here, but it's encouraging. Hopefully the US will offer a nice financial and foreign aid package to them in order to get the show on the road.

I wonder who's next? Iran? Are you watching?

Edit: US is offering support for free and fair elections, which implies a diplomatic hand. Whether or not that entails financial support as well will remain to be seen.

This could be an indirect encouragement to the Israeli/Palestinian situation too.

You are very wrong here, this is not a direct result of Bush's policy, it has nothing to do with Bush's policy. Not every country in the world revolves around the US and Bush.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
imo, this is a direct result of Bush's ME policy. His policy has emboldened people in the ME now to take matters into their own hands, which is the result I desired from his policies. I'm not getting too optimistic yet, and Lebanon has a long row to hoe from here, but it's encouraging. Hopefully the US will offer a nice financial and foreign aid package to them in order to get the show on the road.

I wonder who's next? Iran? Are you watching?

Edit: US is offering support for free and fair elections, which implies a diplomatic hand. Whether or not that entails financial support as well will remain to be seen.

This could be an indirect encouragement to the Israeli/Palestinian situation too.

You are very wrong here, this is not a direct result of Bush's policy, it has nothing to do with Bush's policy. Not every country in the world revolves around the US and Bush.

Erm, K.

Care to tell me how I'm actually wrong about my assertions instead of coming up with some generalist BS that I never claimed in the first place? Care to explain why it's not a result of the Bush doctrine? Please feel free to elborate some more. I'd like to hear it because the deafening silence from the usual subjects on this issue seems rather telling, imo.

 

[mrCide]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
imo, this is a direct result of Bush's ME policy. His policy has emboldened people in the ME now to take matters into their own hands, which is the result I desired from his policies. I'm not getting too optimistic yet, and Lebanon has a long row to hoe from here, but it's encouraging. Hopefully the US will offer a nice financial and foreign aid package to them in order to get the show on the road.

I wonder who's next? Iran? Are you watching?

Edit: US is offering support for free and fair elections, which implies a diplomatic hand. Whether or not that entails financial support as well will remain to be seen.

This could be an indirect encouragement to the Israeli/Palestinian situation too.

You are very wrong here, this is not a direct result of Bush's policy, it has nothing to do with Bush's policy. Not every country in the world revolves around the US and Bush.

Erm, K.

Care to tell me how I'm actually wrong about my assertions instead of coming up with some generalist BS that I never claimed in the first place? Care to explain why it's not a result of the Bush doctrine? Please feel free to elborate some more. I'd like to hear it because the deafening silence from the usual subjects on this issue seems rather telling, imo.

Like i mentioned in the other thread, the ex-PM's disagreements with Syrian influence caused him to resign (a person whom the people of Lebanon love for what he's done), he's then assassinated by assumed Syrian related ties, forcing the people to want Syrian influence out of the government.

This has nothing to do with Bush's policies, Lebanon isn't some 3rd world country with brainwashed citizens. It was once a beautiful place which the civil war had temporarily destroyed, but for quite awhile now it's been growing back into the beautiful place it once was. It's been called many great things. It's no surprise the people are taking a stand after the assassination of the person who practically rebuilt the country after the war.

This would of happened with or without Bush and his "policies". Thats my stance.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
imo, this is a direct result of Bush's ME policy. His policy has emboldened people in the ME now to take matters into their own hands, which is the result I desired from his policies. I'm not getting too optimistic yet, and Lebanon has a long row to hoe from here, but it's encouraging. Hopefully the US will offer a nice financial and foreign aid package to them in order to get the show on the road.

I wonder who's next? Iran? Are you watching?

Edit: US is offering support for free and fair elections, which implies a diplomatic hand. Whether or not that entails financial support as well will remain to be seen.

This could be an indirect encouragement to the Israeli/Palestinian situation too.

You are very wrong here, this is not a direct result of Bush's policy, it has nothing to do with Bush's policy. Not every country in the world revolves around the US and Bush.

Erm, K.

Care to tell me how I'm actually wrong about my assertions instead of coming up with some generalist BS that I never claimed in the first place? Care to explain why it's not a result of the Bush doctrine? Please feel free to elborate some more. I'd like to hear it because the deafening silence from the usual subjects on this issue seems rather telling, imo.

Like i mentioned in the other thread, the ex-PM's disagreements with Syrian influence caused him to resign (a person whom the people of Lebanon love for what he's done), he's then assassinated by assumed Syrian related ties, forcing the people to want Syrian influence out of the government.

This has nothing to do with Bush's policies, Lebanon isn't some 3rd world country with brainwashed citizens. It was once a beautiful place which the civil war had temporarily destroyed, but for quite awhile now it's been growing back into the beautiful place it once was. It's been called many great things. It's no surprise the people are taking a stand after the assassination of the person who practically rebuilt the country after the war.

This would of happened with or without Bush and his "policies". Thats my stance.

We will have to agre to disagree then.

imo, this wouldn't have happened without the Lebanese people having an understanding that a push for democracy in by the west and in particular the US would provide them backing powerful allies. Syria and Assad understand that as well, very well, as the pressure on Syria to withdraw from Lebanon has been stepped up in the past few months. If it weren't for Bush, Syria would have slapped these demonstration down, probably with some bloodshed. As it stands in the ME now, Assad knew he couldn't risk that type of incident. Sure the assasination of Hariri was the catalyst for this, but Bush is just as big if not a bigger influence as well.

As much as it must absolutely cause conniption fits to certain people to think that Bush is having a positive influence on the ME, that fact has to be accepted.